Hardin Memorial Hospital
Curious

Greensburg, KY

#21 Jul 10, 2012
former union member wrote:
They changed it from "acute" to " primary".This was done for legal and insurance reasons...Medicaid,Medicare.Ma ny insurances charge a higher copay for an acute facility than they do for a primary facility
Although I don't doubt that what you've stated here is true, it's not the issue I was talking about. The July 8 Sunday paper (if you can call it that) had an article about the transaction to which I'm referring. It seems that the $400+ grand that the county paid for AcuteCare was simply a deal amongst friends to line the pockets of those who already have fat wallets. Maybe it wasn't that nefarious, but I guarantee it wasn't 100% above board. SURELY, our county government cannot be that naive to get taken for 400 large. A simple non-compete agreement would have kept the SAME doctors from opening an IDENTICAL business in the SAME building just days later.
Curious

Greensburg, KY

#22 Jul 10, 2012
The Point wrote:
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What and have HB say that a private enterprise can't compete against a government entity? I don't think HB's political stripes would let him say that, and I suspect the County got rolled for it. Healthcare is full of vampires.
SURELY, HB and the other board member (Johnson?) are not that stupid. Something else is going on. Even a healthcare vampire would have to abide by a non-compete agreement. Basically, it was a $400k+ gift from the county to a private enterprise. If you read the "business plan" that HMH put together for the purchase, it is flimsy at best. AND the fact (per the business plan) that the original intent for the former AcuteCare building was to house an HMH doctor's office further points to shady dealings. If they had a business plan how did the space "suddenly" become not suitable for the doctor's office? No due diligence? Hmmmmmm...
former union member

Elizabethtown, KY

#23 Jul 10, 2012
They have done the same thing with surgical specialist and radiologists in town...as well as anesthesia associats
youareanidiot

Elizabethtown, KY

#24 Jul 10, 2012
former union member wrote:
Stop going to emergency room for something you can go to acute care or primary care.Get a primary doctor too.Get up off your ass during the morning when you feel like shit and go to the doctor instead of sitting on you fat lazy asses all day until Dr are closed then go to ER.
However,I am sure you know the system.Dr wont see you without payment in advance.HMH cant turn you away so you get by without paying a penney,!!!
These are the people that cause the rest of us to get poor service.
So for those of us who work and have kids, you want us to call our physician at 7pm? Hey, guess what, they're closed. Also the new "Carefirst" sent people from their office over to HMH. Thanks idiot, because you sure know what the hell you're talking about. When you see serious things going on which was mainly the reason over half the people in that waiting room were even there for, and people go back A. because they know someone who works there or B. because they want some pain pills, it's effin bull. I had to take my child there last night and it WAS an emergency, like all the other babies that were NEVER seen, or how about the woman who was puking enormous amounts of blood with the shakes, she freaking walked out! That shows there is something WRONG with the people, the system & their staff. You can tell when someone is sick & when they're faking. Suck some pain popping kids got to be seen before the serious problems! So don't tell people to not go to ER in the dead of night, what other hospital is open moron?
The Point

United States

#26 Jul 10, 2012
youareanidiot wrote:
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So for those of us who work and have kids, you want us to call our physician at 7pm? Hey, guess what, they're closed. Also the new "Carefirst" sent people from their office over to HMH. Thanks idiot, because you sure know what the hell you're talking about. When you see serious things going on which was mainly the reason over half the people in that waiting room were even there for, and people go back A. because they know someone who works there or B. because they want some pain pills, it's effin bull. I had to take my child there last night and it WAS an emergency, like all the other babies that were NEVER seen, or how about the woman who was puking enormous amounts of blood with the shakes, she freaking walked out! That shows there is something WRONG with the people, the system & their staff. You can tell when someone is sick & when they're faking. Suck some pain popping kids got to be seen before the serious problems! So don't tell people to not go to ER in the dead of night, what other hospital is open moron?
It's because they're a government-owned "charity" hospital--underfunded, understaffed, etc. And if you're like me, you pay $5K to the insurance vampires each year (with your employer kicking in another $5K), in addition to paying taxes, to be treated like this. Here's an idea (that I stole from the entire rest of the world): let's just give our $5K directly to the hospital to hire more people, tell our employers to keep their $5K to hire more people, and tell the insurance vampires to go back to hell.
LocalYokel

Greensburg, KY

#27 Jul 10, 2012
The Point wrote:
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It's because they're a government-owned "charity" hospital--underfunded, understaffed, etc. And if you're like me, you pay $5K to the insurance vampires each year (with your employer kicking in another $5K), in addition to paying taxes, to be treated like this. Here's an idea (that I stole from the entire rest of the world): let's just give our $5K directly to the hospital to hire more people, tell our employers to keep their $5K to hire more people, and tell the insurance vampires to go back to hell.
They're "underfunded" because they throw money down the drain!$400k+ for NOTHING! That's a lifetime of insurance premiums!
curious in bburg

Vine Grove, KY

#28 Jul 10, 2012
Shocked wrote:
At this moment I am sitting in the Hardin Memorial, Emergency Unit, waiting room and am appalled by the site before me! It is so packed that you can scarcely get a seat. Only a few moments ago a nurse called out for a patient, who was alone in the back of the room and in a wheelchair, and was calling for the HMH staff. That nurse was not about to wheel the woman across the room or even approach her; it was another patient who finally got up and came to the elderly woman's aid. I could not believe what I was seeing!!

Before all of those Topix meanies get on and start accusing me of being a low-life who doesn't have insurance, I want to stop you. I have a job and I have medical insurance. This afternoon I went to a scheduled appointment with my family physician who told me I needed to go directly to HMH for further tests. He stated that he was no longer able to refer me directly there for testing and I would have to go through their emergency care unit.

So HMH won't take referrals from our doctors? Everyone is forced to enter through the E.R. It's no wonder this waiting room is so infested with sick people: young and old alike. I've seen a person puke in the middle of the floor, another person pass out while a nurse took her sweet time coming on scene, and as I'm typing an infant is crying because she can't stop gagging and vomiting.

I arrived at 5 p.m.; I've witnessed 4 people leave without care; at 9 staff said the wait, to get back, was 7 hours; at that time no one had been taken back for a solid 2.5 hours because of all the ambulance arrivals. This is ridiculous. Is it true that "Hardin County" is now responsible for this facility? I have to say they are doing a very poor job.
that happened to us a few months ago ..I cut my hand was there 3 hours n still not seen ..we left and went to another hospital 1 1/2 hours away ..was there 30 minutes and was stitched up n on my way ..if I was dying I would not go to that stupid place
fools gold

Elizabethtown, KY

#29 Jul 10, 2012
The Point wrote:
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It's because they're a government-owned "charity" hospital--underfunded, understaffed, etc. And if you're like me, you pay $5K to the insurance vampires each year (with your employer kicking in another $5K), in addition to paying taxes, to be treated like this. Here's an idea (that I stole from the entire rest of the world): let's just give our $5K directly to the hospital to hire more people, tell our employers to keep their $5K to hire more people, and tell the insurance vampires to go back to hell.
they are not understaffed. they make a profit. it's a f'n non-for profit hospital. what don't you get about this other than wanting to argue.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#30 Jul 10, 2012
fools gold wrote:
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they are not understaffed. they make a profit. it's a f'n non-for profit hospital. what don't you get about this other than wanting to argue.
You don't think they're understaffed? You think they're making people wait 10 hours just for the thrill of it? Not to mention the whole place smells like a fresh pile of sh%t. They're not a non-profit, they are government owned.
fools gold

Elizabethtown, KY

#31 Jul 10, 2012
The Point wrote:
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You don't think they're understaffed? You think they're making people wait 10 hours just for the thrill of it? Not to mention the whole place smells like a fresh pile of sh%t. They're not a non-profit, they are government owned.
it's a scheduling problem. they have the employees, they just don't have them working on the schedule. geezz, louise... ever been on a floor where they have half of it shut down and in the dark????? if i'm flipping burgers and i can work one person on the grill i save money. if it gets busy, i hope someone else working will be able to help grill or i need to call someone in. same with them. i dont' even know why i'm trying to explain to someone like you.
The Point

Elizabethtown, KY

#32 Jul 10, 2012
fools gold wrote:
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it's a scheduling problem. they have the employees, they just don't have them working on the schedule. geezz, louise... ever been on a floor where they have half of it shut down and in the dark????? if i'm flipping burgers and i can work one person on the grill i save money. if it gets busy, i hope someone else working will be able to help grill or i need to call someone in. same with them. i dont' even know why i'm trying to explain to someone like you.
Then it's a funding problem. I don't think the lady with a baby with a 103 degree temperature (or the lady puking blood) see their situation as comparable to waiting for a burger to be flipped.
SJordan

United States

#33 Jul 10, 2012
I must be one of the exceptions to the issues mentioned. As much as I dislike hospitals HMH has been great to me. First time I went in with a collapsed lung that I had dealt with for a week thinking it was a pulled muscle in my chest. They got me right in and within a couple hrs had a tube inserted to fix the lung and in a room upstairs. Last time in was dealing with chest pains again same thing straight back and within a couple hrs was upstairs in a room being monitored. Guess it depends on your symptoms on priority of receiving treatment. I have to say the staff of the er and all the others departments I've dealt with have been excellent. Definitely did everything they could to make sure I had what I needed even though I wasn't happy about being stuck in there. Maybe my care is better because I have insurance who knows but I'm not easily pleased and I'd recommend them.
KYgirl

Campbellsville, KY

#34 Jul 10, 2012
Shocked wrote:
At this moment I am sitting in the Hardin Memorial, Emergency Unit, waiting room and am appalled by the site before me! It is so packed that you can scarcely get a seat. Only a few moments ago a nurse called out for a patient, who was alone in the back of the room and in a wheelchair, and was calling for the HMH staff. That nurse was not about to wheel the woman across the room or even approach her; it was another patient who finally got up and came to the elderly woman's aid. I could not believe what I was seeing!!
Before all of those Topix meanies get on and start accusing me of being a low-life who doesn't have insurance, I want to stop you. I have a job and I have medical insurance. This afternoon I went to a scheduled appointment with my family physician who told me I needed to go directly to HMH for further tests. He stated that he was no longer able to refer me directly there for testing and I would have to go through their emergency care unit.
So HMH won't take referrals from our doctors? Everyone is forced to enter through the E.R. It's no wonder this waiting room is so infested with sick people: young and old alike. I've seen a person puke in the middle of the floor, another person pass out while a nurse took her sweet time coming on scene, and as I'm typing an infant is crying because she can't stop gagging and vomiting.
I arrived at 5 p.m.; I've witnessed 4 people leave without care; at 9 staff said the wait, to get back, was 7 hours; at that time no one had been taken back for a solid 2.5 hours because of all the ambulance arrivals. This is ridiculous. Is it true that "Hardin County" is now responsible for this facility? I have to say they are doing a very poor job.
go to Louisville
KYgirl

Campbellsville, KY

#35 Jul 10, 2012
Child Of Christ wrote:
For the woman who posted this I was there too and I know exactly what you are talkin about. I seen that lady there too that was throwing up and very sick and watched the kindness off strangers help her out and the nurse look at her in discuss.I was there with my grandson that was running a temperature of 103 and we were one of the people that walked out.we also arrived around 5 and walked out around 11.
Can't this stuff be reported to someone !
KYgirl

Campbellsville, KY

#36 Jul 10, 2012
SJordan wrote:
I must be one of the exceptions to the issues mentioned. As much as I dislike hospitals HMH has been great to me. First time I went in with a collapsed lung that I had dealt with for a week thinking it was a pulled muscle in my chest. They got me right in and within a couple hrs had a tube inserted to fix the lung and in a room upstairs. Last time in was dealing with chest pains again same thing straight back and within a couple hrs was upstairs in a room being monitored. Guess it depends on your symptoms on priority of receiving treatment. I have to say the staff of the er and all the others departments I've dealt with have been excellent. Definitely did everything they could to make sure I had what I needed even though I wasn't happy about being stuck in there. Maybe my care is better because I have insurance who knows but I'm not easily pleased and I'd recommend them.
Of course anyone who goes to ER with chest pain will get right in , duh!
Living

Scottsville, KY

#37 Jul 10, 2012
Just dont go untill your about to die like i do, they saved my life twice and im grateful.
SJordan

United States

#38 Jul 11, 2012
KYgirl wrote:
<quoted text>Of course anyone who goes to ER with chest pain will get right in , duh!
Guess I should have mentioned a broken foot too. Same scenario as the others right in treated and out the door within a couple of hours.
fyi

Big Clifty, KY

#39 Jul 11, 2012
I was verbally attacked by a nurse who works for HMH and her sister while in the ER. I asked for the house super. of course the security guard did not go get her/him. do a complaint he said.
HMH violates HIPPA violations too. Because this a-hole nurse knew too much about someone's medical history.
James

Glendale, AZ

#40 Jul 11, 2012
Too many people abuse the ER, go to an urgent care or your physicians
office. Oh wait, that means insurance and a co-pay. You lazy unemployed
losers sleep till noon then you decide you want to go to the ER. The
ER is not a restaurant, nor is it a place to go cause you have no ac at your
lean-to barn!

People at the hospital are sick of you skum, SKUM.

Stop abusing the ER, mama obama and the tax man IRS will be coming
after you SKUM in 2014 when you don't buy health insurance.. Haha
Better sell that stupid cricket phone and those cheesy rings and stop
getting tattoos on your fat asses,dosen't make you cute,retards.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha
Been Their

Elizabethtown, KY

#41 Jul 11, 2012
I got up in severe pain one morning called my family dr and they told me to go to the ER.This has happened several times can't get into my family dr.and i'm sure it's happened to alote of people that they can't get into their family drs.And when i did go to the er i was in the waiting room for 5hrs in severe pain and when i did get back their in a room i waited another hour or so.And come to find out i had kidney stones and they said i would pass the stones cause they were small and i needed to see my family dr.It took me a week to get into my family dr.and he sent me to see a kidney dr.and he had to do sugery and he told me that the er.doctors tells all of his patients he sees that they will pass the stones,and thats not always so.Mine was to big to pass but hardin memorial drs.said i would pass them.That's the worst pain i have ever had and they treated me like i was just their wanting pain meds.I think that if i was wanting pain meds.that bad i would get them some place else instead of waiting for hours at HMH to get them.And I think that it's a shame that a person can't even get into their family drs.when they need to.And yes i do have medical insurance and i do pay for it.Someone needs to do something about all this issues at the er and the family drs.office.most of the family drs.are in with the hospital and they have something going on for the patients to go to the er.They get more money and they run all these test to get the insurance money.HMH needs to get some better drs.at the er.and they need to stop the madness on the nurses the way they treat the patients.They act like their better cause they work their,but their not no better.How would they want to be treated if they got sick and had to go to the er.

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