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CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#3401 Mar 5, 2013
Alice wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/W ellness/male-doctors-make-1200 0-annually-female/story?id=165 50086
I told you that you shouldn't go back and fourth with lobby. He's making you look like the idiot that you are.
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#3402 Mar 5, 2013
Gary - Qualified Opinion wrote:
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You can bombard us with all the manure you want Lobby but you can't seem to get through simple commonsense.
This entire subject is a non-issue and the fact that you come back to these hidden boards to share your propaganda is pathetic. You can jump from Washington to CA and attend all the seminars you want while eating caviar but pigs still won't fly.
Cram it Lobby, you and your issue has been regulated to the "B" team.
Now chat amongst yourself in a very proper way you maniac!
He refuses to let FACTS get in the way of his argument, Lol.
EEEE HHH

Norwich, UK

#3403 Mar 5, 2013
Gary - Qualified Opinion wrote:
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"Luke, I have little respect for your country..." (Gary is referring to the people of The United Kingdom)
Gary... your comments are SO war mongering and racialist! Being a Doctor you should have more depth of character and intellect that that!

Don't you realize that the UK is made up of a whole range of different people? We are a multinational cosmopolitan society? Where have you been?

I REALLY think you need to get your head out of ladies vaginas and into the real world!
CHRIS

Clinton, MA

#3404 Mar 5, 2013
Lobby - Qualified Opinion wrote:
The studies quoted above are consistent with the findings reported in the paper of Terri Kapsalis, Female Gynaecologist and Medical School Teacher:
Public Privates: Performing gynecology from both ends of the speculum (Duke University Press, 1997. ISBN: 0-8223-1921-7).
In her book she refers to previous studies from Buchwald:
"Students seem to find it very difficult to consider female genital display and manipulation in the medical context as entirely separate from sexual acts and their accompanying fears. Buchwald's lists of fears makes explicit the perceived connection between a pelvic examination and a sexual act. "… "a fear of sexual arousal" makes explicit the connection between the pelvic exam and various sexual acts. Buchwald notes that both men and women are subject to this fear of sexual arousal. "A fear of being judged inept" signals a kind of "performance anxiety," a feeling common in both inexperienced and experienced clinical and sexual performers. "A fear of disturbance of the doctor-patient relationship" recognized the existence of a type of "incest taboo" within the pelvic exam scenario."
Overall, the scientific evidence that male doctors cannot turn-off
their sexual instincts during intimate examinations make some Male Gynecologists, such as Dr John Smith the author of “A Physician's Explosive Account of Women's Medical Treatment -- and Mistreatment -- in America Today (Atlantic Monthly Press; $20.95)” and Dr. Nelson Soucasaux, author of “The Psychology of Gynaecology”,
conclude that “Male domination of the medical profession has bred a host of abuses”, because “doctors are overpaid and undersupervised”, and a strong subconscious motivation for many men who choose gynecology as a specialty is the "need to be in a powerful and controlling relationship with women.”
These findings must be known by the public.
Women and husbands must be made aware that it's not unjustified to fear male doctors may feel sexual arousal during pelvic exams.
Women and their husbands must be reassured that they are not insecure or immature, but that there are well grounded scientific motivations to believe male doctors may be driven to Gynaecology for subconscious (or conscious) sexual desires or for the subconscious pleasure in exerting power over women.
Women and their husbands must be reminded that despite the supreme court has not expressed a final ruling yet, many lower courts have already established very clearly that:
"hospitals are entitled
to employ only female nurses in their labor and delivery units because of the expectant mother's personal privacy interest".
In simple words established that the right of the patient to maintain their Privacy and Dignity intact JUSTIFIES REPLACING MALE DOCTORS AND NURSES WITH SAME GENDER DOCTORS AND NURSES
and
PROHIBITING MALE DOCTORS AND MALE NURSES TO PERFORM INTIMATE EXAMINATIONS ON WOMEN DOES NOT CONSTITUTE SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION.
ALL THE LAW SUITS BY MALE DOCTORS WHO WERE FIRED AND REPLACED BY FEMALES WERE LOST BY MALE DOCTORS.
Once the supreme court will issue the final ruling you will see many doctors being replaced by females, because hospitals will fear no more legal actions by male doctors for gender discrimination.
"undersupervised," Both doctors and Law Enforcement have a great deal of power. However, doctors DON'T police themselves. In fact they are more likely to cover for one an another. The Police do police themselves, Its called I.A., internal affairs. I'm i missing something here?
EEEE HHH

Norwich, UK

#3405 Mar 5, 2013
"...so he decided that he would have to do a Pap smear exam. That was a red flag for me."

http://www.mysexabuse.com/threads/uncomfortab...
EEEE HHH

Norwich, UK

#3406 Mar 5, 2013
"I once read from two people who know male doctors personally, and they said that the doctor admitted to them that will often do unnecessary exams on young attractive women and that they can easily justify it. For example, a female patient may complain about a sore throat and end up having a breast exam, or she might complain of chest pain and end up having a pelvic exam. Other women may even be refused the pill unless they submit to a pap smear."

http://www.womens-health.com/boards/gynecolog...
EEEE HHH

Norwich, UK

#3407 Mar 5, 2013
http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/unnece...

This BLOG now has 9707 comments to date...

So... there isn't a problem with male Doctors???

Have a read for yourself what women are saying about them!
CHRIS

Bedford, MA

#3408 Mar 5, 2013
EEEE HHH wrote:
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Gary... your comments are SO war mongering and racialist! Being a Doctor you should have more depth of character and intellect that that!
Don't you realize that the UK is made up of a whole range of different people? We are a multinational cosmopolitan society? Where have you been?
I REALLY think you need to get your head out of ladies vaginas and into the real world!
He's not speaking for all of us. I know myself and other fellow Americans have a great deal of respect for the people of the U.K. Yes, he is showing what low life's male gynecologist are. Ladies are you seeing this? I hope so.
EEEE HHHH

Norwich, UK

#3411 Mar 5, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> He's not speaking for all of us. I know myself and other fellow Americans have a great deal of respect for the people of the U.K. Yes, he is showing what low life's male gynecologist are. Ladies are you seeing this? I hope so.
Thank you Chris, every country has its 'good & bad'. That's Human life.
Mark

Norwich, UK

#3412 Mar 5, 2013
To discover the mentality of the male gynecologist Google the horrifying history of J. Marion Sims, the 'father of modern gynecology'(he imprisoned women, repeatedly forced operations on them without anesthesia, and murdered the newborns with whom he had forcibly impregnated his prisoners, all 'in the name of research' and also take a look at a book called Public Privates: Performing Gynecology from Both Ends of the Speculum (Paperback)
by Terri Kapsalis.
John

Louisville, KY

#3413 Mar 5, 2013
Guys, "gary from louisville" is obviously a troll and we should just ignore him. Don't waste your time responding to such baiting language and over the top insults and name calling.
CHRIS

Bristol, CT

#3414 Mar 5, 2013
Gary wrote:
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Using your wonderful thought process, a black man robbed my friend at gun point therefore all black men are gun welding thief's who will perform robbery at gunpoint.
You do understand how this description is not accurate, don't you? Certainly not all black men are gun welding thief's.
You and your ilk have whipped everyone up to a frenzy on this male doctor issue and you are using the "all black men argument". It is a juvenile, petty, erroneous, immature, insecure, non-trust worthy position to take.
If a woman wants to see a woman doctor then by all means she should. You/we men have nothing to say in regards to who she feels confident in seeing. If she is pregnant she can murder the baby without our consent (by law) so how in the world do you come up with the idea that as men we can dictate who a woman decides to see for her female needs?
Maybe the wooden tooth crowd over in Britain can get up on their high horses and dictate but over here in the US a husband make get the Hell beat out of him for trying to control his wife.
You idiots just don't have the right to tell anyone who they can see. If this issue bothers you to the point you may divorce your wife then you are an overbearing control freak and it would be best for your wife to leave your sorry butt. You and your ilk are nothing more then insecure sniveling trolls who thing they can dominate. Sadly you are mistaken.
Again, and this point has not been addressed (nor will it), 99% of the people reading this thread were delivered by a male doctor. Your mother's got along just fine and everyone has gone on with their life's. They weren't abused or traumatized yet most will post as though every male doctor is some pervert. You can't understand (mainly because this is the way you think) that a professional male doctor could view a woman naked and not have sexual thoughts. That has more to do with the way your brain works not the poor doctor who has to see your wife.
Don't forget about Dr Nikita Levy, he liked taking pictures of his patients genital, just like Dr Peter Lafuria has been charged with. Levy committed suicide, F Y I
Gary - Qualified Opinion

Louisville, KY

#3415 Mar 5, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> Don't forget about Dr Nikita Levy, he liked taking pictures of his patients genital, just like Dr Peter Lafuria has been charged with. Levy committed suicide, F Y I
Yes I see, another black man has been indicted so all black men must be evil? If a black man robs you at gunpoint are all black men evil? Answer that question for me would you please?
The reason why I ask is I don't see any difference between condemning the entire black race because some have committed crimes.
That is exactly what you are doing here condemning an entire group based on their sex because a few have broke the bond, the trust they have with their patients.
It is grossly unfair to take a man who has studied hard, got his doctor's degree, and is practicing legally to just imply he is unfit to do the job he was trained to do based on his sex. It is also unethical.
Realize I am not suggesting a woman should not just see a woman doctor and not have to be concerned about abuse, it is the fact that this thread have deteriorated into simply a male doctor bashing forum. I am sure I will see more links to doctors that have abused but again shall we condemn all black men that break the law? If we do that the majority of black men will be discriminated against. That is exactly what the group (mainly from Great Britain, free health care?) is doing regarding male doctors.
Gary - Qualified Opinion

Louisville, KY

#3416 Mar 5, 2013
PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION:
If a black man robs you at gunpoint are all black men evil? Answer that question for me would you please?
Gary - Qualified Opinion

Louisville, KY

#3419 Mar 5, 2013
Gary - Qualified Opinion wrote:
PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION:
If a black man robs you at gunpoint are all black men evil? Answer that question for me would you please?
You can disagree, say I'm nuts, or rate however you wish.
None of that matters as you won't answer the question because you know you can not defend your beliefs.
Gary - Qualified Opinion

Louisville, KY

#3420 Mar 5, 2013
Go find your smart guy Lobby. Perhaps he can eloquently explain where I am in error. He is highly educated, can speak 5 languages, and comes from a well to do family.
CHRIS

Boston, MA

#3421 Mar 5, 2013
Gary - Qualified Opinion wrote:
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You can disagree, say I'm nuts, or rate however you wish.
None of that matters as you won't answer the question because you know you can not defend your beliefs.
Male gynecologist chose to be gynecologist, they CHOSE for some reason. Good and bad people are born white or black or whatever, they never had a choice. I don't think anyone has said that all male gyn's choose criminal behavior.
Gary - Qualified Opinion

Louisville, KY

#3422 Mar 5, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text> Male gynecologist chose to be gynecologist, they CHOSE for some reason. Good and bad people are born white or black or whatever, they never had a choice. I don't think anyone has said that all male gyn's choose criminal behavior.
Where do you think Lobby and everyone in GB is going with this discussion? It is to BAN ALL MALES FROM PRACTICING GYNECOLOGY. No, they haven't stated that all male doctors commit criminal behavior but they certainly have danced all around the issue where a rational thinker would conclude that if they (Lobby and fellow wooden tooth believers) could write laws male doctors would be out of business.
Choice had nothing to do with it.
These are blanket statements being made here that men should not treat woman because of offenses by a small portion of the profession.
I parallel the black man issue because again that would be painting with a large brush.
We would not do that with black people and we should not be doing that with male doctors.
CHRIS

Boston, MA

#3423 Mar 5, 2013
The color of someone's skin has nothing to do with anything, people can't choose that
CHRIS

Boston, MA

#3424 Mar 5, 2013
Gary - Qualified Opinion wrote:
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Where do you think Lobby and everyone in GB is going with this discussion? It is to BAN ALL MALES FROM PRACTICING GYNECOLOGY. No, they haven't stated that all male doctors commit criminal behavior but they certainly have danced all around the issue where a rational thinker would conclude that if they (Lobby and fellow wooden tooth believers) could write laws male doctors would be out of business.
Choice had nothing to do with it.
These are blanket statements being made here that men should not treat woman because of offenses by a small portion of the profession.
I parallel the black man issue because again that would be painting with a large brush.
We would not do that with black people and we should not be doing that with male doctors.
Laws don't have to be written. I believe in the American way, a free market place. The market will correct itself and has. Soon there will be many more female obgyn's working out in the "field," just as there are many more female residents then male ones now. It's as simple as supply and demand. There was/is a demand for female obgyn's, the demand is being met.

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