Male doctor and your wife
Lobby

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#2550 Dec 20, 2012
This is another very interested blog by a Medical Student who refused to take part to examinations without consent.

She documents that all women in the OB/GYN departments of all american universities are likely to be victim of intimate examinations without consent while they are unconscious

http://www.theunnecesarean.com/blog/2010/8/30...
Jesus

UK

#2551 Dec 20, 2012
Any male physician or medical doctor that has conducted a non essential pelvic examination or any other female genitalia examination on another man's wife will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven upon death.
Lobby

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#2552 Dec 20, 2012
Pelvic exams are not necessary during pregnancies, if the patients do not have health problems:

http://amysfinerthings.com/back-away-from-my-...
Lobby

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#2553 Dec 20, 2012
Information about why most vaginal exams are unneccessary

http://www.bellybelly.com.au/pregnancy/vagina...
Lobby

San Jose, CA

#2557 Dec 20, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
It's SO wierd that women actually know what male doctors are like but they've learnt to just accept it as 'one of those things in life'.
About time women STOOD UP!
The second link (from bellybelly) is as well very informative, it explains a lot of situations where women are invited to undergo unnecessary intimate exams and how to manage requests of such exams by doctors.

I still wish we can work together to build up a proper website. I am currently very busy, preparing for some international conferences, but as soon as I have some time I will set it up and update you, so that those of you who feel like contributing, can give me a hand to post important and updated information thereby.
James

Louisville, KY

#2558 Dec 20, 2012
Modest Woman wrote:
A lawyer from Kentucky a link about how nurse provides no protection for patients at http://www.bluegrassbulletin.com/2012/12/sexu... . It is encouraging that a well respected lawyer would take time to post a link about how women can prevent sexual abuse by doctors.
Bull Shit
I grow weary of homemade websites with anonymous people posting and we are to take this as gospel.
Care to reveal who wrote that wonderful post you linked to?
I see no author listed nor do I see any claim of the author being an attorney.
For all I know one of the trolls on here posted that nonsense.
They also are advising woman not to have males perform a colonoscopy?
That's really weird as a few years ago when I had one I was looking up at around 5 female nurses. I never did see the male doctor before I fell asleep.
Why should I be concerned using your wonderful insight and logic?
None of these pages linked are to name brand mainstream sites.
It is also good to note the same queers from England are making their usual troll posts.
James

Louisville, KY

#2559 Dec 20, 2012
Lobby wrote:
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The second link (from bellybelly) is as well very informative, it explains a lot of situations where women are invited to undergo unnecessary intimate exams and how to manage requests of such exams by doctors.
I still wish we can work together to build up a proper website. I am currently very busy, preparing for some international conferences, but as soon as I have some time I will set it up and update you, so that those of you who feel like contributing, can give me a hand to post important and updated information thereby.
DFTT
James

Louisville, KY

#2560 Dec 20, 2012
ENLIGHTENED HUSBAND wrote:
It's SO wierd that women actually know what male doctors are like but they've learnt to just accept it as 'one of those things in life'.
About time women STOOD UP!
If that was occurring they would stand up.
It isn't so they aren't.
You don't have to have a college degree to figure this out.
You just keep pretending abuse is occurring and these "ignorant woman" aren't aware it's even happening.
Only an insecure male would assume that they are more knowledgeable than the female who is actually having the procedure preformed.
Are you in your own little dream world that somehow you are going to be the knight in shining armor to woman who are only being abused in your mind by inventing all this "pretend" abuse?
Lobby

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#2563 Dec 20, 2012
James wrote:
<quoted text>
<We are refering to the HUGE amount of male doctors that are using their positions to abuse and groom women and teenage girls!>
That's what has us alarmed as there are not a huge amount of male doctors doing anything. You claim the doctors are grooming them. Grooming them for what, brothels? You sick bastard, grooming them? Again, grooming them for what?
<Being able to open up a frightened female vagina>
Do you get a little chubby going when you make comments like that? A "frightened vagina"? One could ask how the Hell a man knows anything about a "frightened vagina" but I believe you use language like that for dramatics or to arouse yourself and your queer British buddies.
<there are 1000's of doctors being convicted>
Please provide that list of 1000's, otherwise cease with the exaggerations.
paper written by Dr. Lamont is professor ofobstetrics and gynecology, McMaster University, and director of the Sexual Medicine Unit, Henderson General
Hospital, Hamilton, Ont. Dr. Woodward is professor ofclinical epidemiology and biostatistics, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ont.

Patient-physician sexual involvement:
a Canadian survey of obstetrician-gynecologists

OBJECTIVE: To determine obstetrician-gynecologists'(ob -gyns') awareness of and experience with sexual abuse of patients and former patients and their opinions about appropriate consequences. DESIGN: Mailed survey. SETTING: Canada. PARTICIPANTS: All 792 members of the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada (SOGC); 618 (78%) responded. Approximately half of all ob-gyns in Canada belong to the SOGC. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Knowledge of sexual involvement by an ob-gyn colleague with a patient or former patient (as defined by the respondents and by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario [CPSO]), self-report of such involvement, attitudes toward physician sexual abuse, desirable length of time a physician should wait before seeing a former patient in a situation that could lead to a sexual encounter, suggested consequences of sexual abuse. RESULTS: Overall, 10% of the respondents indicated that they knew about another ob-gyn who at some time had been sexually involved with a patient. In all, 3% of the male respondents and 1% of the female respondents reported sexual involvement with a patient; the corresponding proportions of those who reported having been accused of sexual abuse by a patient were 4% and 2%. Significantly more of the female ob-gyns than of their male counterparts (37% v. 19%) reported awareness of a colleague's sexual involvement with a patient that would meet the CPSO's definition of sexual impropriety, transgression or violation. Most of the respondents felt that the consequence of proven sexual impropriety should be reprimand and fine (chosen by 33%) or rehabilitation without loss of licence (28%). Most of the physicians supported loss of licence for proven sexual transgression (57%) or proven sexual violation (74%), but fewer felt that loss of licence should be permanent for these types of abuse (4% and 24% respectively). The female ob-gyns supported stronger sanctions against sexual transgression and sexual violation than the male ob-gyns. A wide range of opinion was seen regarding the propriety of sexual relationships with former patients. CONCLUSIONS: Ob-gyns have varied opinions about how sexual abuse of patients should be defined and how it should be sanctioned. There is a discrepancy between proposed public policy and the beliefs of physicians to whom the policy is to be applied.
James

Louisville, KY

#2567 Dec 21, 2012
Lobby wrote:
<quoted text>
Other evidence of Ob/GYn having sexual interaction with patients are also reported in several published research papers of international quality.
I have 2 masters and a PhD, and I am a professional researcher. I challenge you to give empirical evidence, contained in any published medical research, that male medical doctors are immune from sexual attraction to all female patients and they never look at them sexually....
No one suggested anyone is immune merely that 1) the situation in America and the situation in Britain are different and 2) you all are painting this subject as though all male doctors are guilty.

I also question why four or five posters on here are on a vigil ante type crusade regarding this subject? Regurgitation of the same material over and over is what is occurring. We get what you are saying. Thank you for the info. Now what?
F Y I

Fitchburg, MA

#2571 Dec 21, 2012
James wrote:
<quoted text>
No one suggested anyone is immune merely that 1) the situation in America and the situation in Britain are different and 2) you all are painting this subject as though all male doctors are guilty.
I also question why four or five posters on here are on a vigil ante type crusade regarding this subject? Regurgitation of the same material over and over is what is occurring. We get what you are saying. Thank you for the info. Now what?
You dont think your regurgitating the same thing over and over again???????
crackin up

Madisonville, KY

#2573 Dec 21, 2012
So as a male, when it is time for your prostate to be checked which gender do you prefer?
Lobby

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#2575 Dec 21, 2012
James wrote:
<quoted text>
No one suggested anyone is immune merely that 1) the situation in America and the situation in Britain are different and 2) you all are painting this subject as though all male doctors are guilty.
I also question why four or five posters on here are on a vigil ante type crusade regarding this subject? Regurgitation of the same material over and over is what is occurring. We get what you are saying. Thank you for the info. Now what?
I am afraid, but the statistics reveal the opposite of what you insist to believe. If you read the relevant papers you will realize that the percentage of male doctors breaching sexual boundaries, and committing abuses is on average 10%. This percentage increases up to 50% for pelvic exams by medical student without valid consent.
The statistics include also the US, together with all Anglo-Saxon countries. Other European Countries, such as Spain, Italy, France, do not have the same percentages but much lower and almost insignificant. Additionally, while in Ango-Saxon countries it is imposed to all students to do cross-gender exams in order to graduate, and it is tolerated the practice on patients under anesthesia (even without consent), this practice is not tolerated in the continental EU countries, where students can graduate even without performing cross-gender intimate examinations.
One out of 10 male doctors and 5 out of 10 male medical students in the Anglosaxon Systems (included US) abuse their position.
These statistics are outrageous and are not dealt with appropriately.

Sexual misconduct is of particular concern in today's environment of shifting roles for women and men, greater sexual freedom, and critical evaluation of power relations in society.

It must be pointed out that The privilege of caring for patients, often over a long period, can yield considerable professional satisfaction. The obstetrician-gynecologist may fill many roles for patients, including primary physician, technology expert, prevention specialist, counselor, and confidante.

Privy to both birth and death, obstetrician-gynecologists assist women as they pass through adolescence; grow into maturity; make choices about sexuality, partnership, and family; experience the sorrows of reproductive loss, infertility, and illness; and adapt to the transitions of midlife and aging.

The practice of obstetrics and gynecology includes interaction at times of intense emotion and vulnerability for the patient and involves both sensitive physical examinations and medically necessary disclosure of especially private information about symptoms and experiences.

Even if there is mutual consent between the patient and the doctor to a sexual relationship, Mere mutual consent is rejected as a justification for sexual relations with patients because the disparity in power, status, vulnerability, and need make it difficult for a patient to give meaningful consent to sexual contact or sexual relations. Any form of sexual contact, even consensual, between patients and doctors is classified as a violation of the patient, and and a sexual exploitation.
F Y I

Fitchburg, MA

#2578 Dec 21, 2012
crackin up wrote:
So as a male, when it is time for your prostate to be checked which gender do you prefer?
P.S.A. BLOOD DRAWN TEST. Doesn't matter which gender.
Lobby

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#2579 Dec 21, 2012
James wrote:
<quoted text>
No one suggested anyone is immune merely that 1) the situation in America and the situation in Britain are different and 2) you all are painting this subject as though all male doctors are guilty.
I also question why four or five posters on here are on a vigil ante type crusade regarding this subject? Regurgitation of the same material over and over is what is occurring. We get what you are saying. Thank you for the info. Now what?
Just to give you an idea of the magnitude and frequency of the phenomenon, I take only one of the richest and better regulated states of the US: California.

See below the reports from the medical board about sexual abuses. Multiply that at least for 50 to have the extension of the phenomenon in the whole USA:

Exerpted from July 2004 Action Report
By Joan Jerzak, Chief of Enforcement

The board continues to receive a significant number of complaints alleging sexual misconduct - in fiscal year 00/01 - 133 complaints; fiscal year 01/02 - 134 complaints. The complaints range from inappropriate remarks to improper touching to illegal sexual relationships to sexual assault and rape.

Now if you multiply the data of California for the 50 states of the USA, the results reaches thousands of sexual misconducts:

133*50 = 6,650 misconducts only in the year 2000-2001

134*50 = 6,700 misconducts only in the year 2001-2002

It must be pointed out that if you study the statistics, Sexual misconducts in the US are increasing and not decreasing.

"Any physician and surgeon, psychotherapist, alcohol drug abuse counselor or any person holding himself or herself out to be a physician and surgeon,... who engages in an act of sexual intercourse, sodomy, oral copulation, or sexual contact with a patient or client, or with a former patient or client when the relationship was terminated primarily for the purpose of engaging in those acts, unless the physician and surgeon,... has referred the patient or client to an independent and objective physician and surgeon,... or recommended by a third-party physician and surgeon,... for treatment, is guilty of sexual exploitation by a physician and surgeon,..."

This violation is a public offense, which means it is a crime. A first offense constitutes a misdemeanor. A second conviction, or a case where there are two or more victims, is actually a felony.
crackin up

Madisonville, KY

#2582 Dec 21, 2012
If there has been known cancer in the family anal examination has been done.
F Y I

Fitchburg, MA

#2583 Dec 21, 2012
crackin up wrote:
If there has been known cancer in the family anal examination has been done.
Colonoscopy
crackin up

Madisonville, KY

#2584 Dec 21, 2012
http://menshealth.about.com/od/prostatehealth...
You try to be an expert, but you aren't. I know what a colonoscopy is and p.s.a blood test. Obviously you've never had your prostate checked.
F Y I

Fitchburg, MA

#2586 Dec 21, 2012
crackin up wrote:
http://menshealth.about.com/od /prostatehealth/a/prostate_pol l.htm
You try to be an expert, but you aren't. I know what a colonoscopy is and p.s.a blood test. Obviously you've never had your prostate checked.
No I don't think I'm an expert. I only had a d.r.e. prior to my colonoscopy. I d.r.e. is good if you have a swollen prostate. Very low yield in detecting a tumor. I'll stick with my p.s.a. If I ever have symptoms of an enlarged prostate I would get a d.r.e. my colonoscopy was a no brainer, considered the gold stare standard for finding colon cancer. If something is missed its human era. Thats why they now check you on the way in and the way out. My body I'll decide what test I have, thank you.
F Y I

Charlestown, MA

#2587 Dec 21, 2012
crackin up wrote:
http://menshealth.about.com/od /prostatehealth/a/prostate_pol l.htm
You try to be an expert, but you aren't. I know what a colonoscopy is and p.s.a blood test. Obviously you've never had your prostate checked.
it's more accurate than the bimanual, which isnt accurate at all, but not much.

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