RU Having Problems or Had

Vine Grove, KY

#23 May 26, 2011
too much poop wrote:
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This person is exactly correct. The septic systems out there are designed for a three bedroom house, meaning 4 "full time" people. When there are 5 or 6 people, and multiple teenagers, and an abundance of red clay septic systems will fail miserably. And THAT is what happened in La Vista. That is also why there is a completely different system in that neigghborhood now for the newer houses. That does not change that the place is turning into a dump though!
I deal with people in construction all the time. Health Department inspectors, plumbing inspectors, plumbers, septic installers, builders etc. My personal opinion is that the health department is trying to cover up mistakes made in that subdivision. I saw the broadcast the other night. Septics are sized on the number of bedrooms yes, and soils yes. The residents who think they have real problems can find out if they themselves were the problem buy getting their own water records. Compare the system design they receive or received to their "ACTUAL" water usage. A good inspector will show you what you "ACTUALLY" got. Your water records are the Homeowners first line of defense against anything the homeowner did or did not do to cause a system to fail by its original design.
What

Elizabethtown, KY

#24 May 28, 2011
RU Having Problems or Had wrote:
<quoted text>I deal with people in construction all the time. Health Department inspectors, plumbing inspectors, plumbers, septic installers, builders etc. My personal opinion is that the health department is trying to cover up mistakes made in that subdivision. I saw the broadcast the other night. Septics are sized on the number of bedrooms yes, and soils yes. The residents who think they have real problems can find out if they themselves were the problem buy getting their own water records. Compare the system design they receive or received to their "ACTUAL" water usage. A good inspector will show you what you "ACTUALLY" got. Your water records are the Homeowners first line of defense against anything the homeowner did or did not do to cause a system to fail by its original design.
You could be right. But when it all boils down, it is an issue with too many people living in the houses. Look at the homes that have had the problems and how many people live in them. Plain and simple!
Looky Here

Vine Grove, KY

#25 May 28, 2011
What wrote:
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You could be right. But when it all boils down, it is an issue with too many people living in the houses. Look at the homes that have had the problems and how many people live in them. Plain and simple!
As long as the system design has not been exceeded by the homeowners misuse like putting too much water into that particular design; then, it does not matter if 10 or 20 people are living in a 3 or 4 bedroom house. The users water consumption records is a good indicator as to the possibility of homeowner overuse or abuse of the system design. Some people can afford the largest hot water heater made in the U.S. that allows them to each take hour long showers and numerous loads of laundry and still have hot water left for all in the family, thinking this is great. However, because they love their long relaxing showers, at the end of the day the user could be using more water than the system can handle. Systems could be designed around the users lifestyle and family size if you know the users water consumption and you have the room to add enough leach lines for that life style of that particular user. Not to mention the cost to the owner for that particular lifestyle they live in their homes. Otherwise, the user may have to cut down on the enjoyable use of that superior water heater useage and be more water conservative. The water once it goes down the drain has a place to go but once that place is maxed out then there is nowhere to go but up to the surface causing much irritation for all. Simply put a users water use records are the most necessary useable tool to figure out what may be causing system failures anywhere in the U. S.

The other side of the coin is if the user is not using near the maximum capacity of the system design and the system design is STILL failing after looking at water consumption records; then you could have serious issues with the builder, system installer, system inspector, basically all involved in that particular design to see where the problem is. Underground streams, tree roots, privacy fence posts, deep garden tilling are examples of homeowner possibilities of damaging their system without understanding they may caused their own system to fail by planting too close to their leach field. Underground streams Might be able to be altered with experts in that particular area(not intending the user has anything to do with causing an underground stream or spring on their property).
Thanks for the Info

Vine Grove, KY

#26 May 30, 2011
Looky Here wrote:
<quoted text>As long as the system design has not been exceeded by the homeowners misuse like putting too much water into that particular design; then, it does not matter if 10 or 20 people are living in a 3 or 4 bedroom house. The users water consumption records is a good indicator as to the possibility of homeowner overuse or abuse of the system design. Some people can afford the largest hot water heater made in the U.S. that allows them to each take hour long showers and numerous loads of laundry and still have hot water left for all in the family, thinking this is great. However, because they love their long relaxing showers, at the end of the day the user could be using more water than the system can handle. Systems could be designed around the users lifestyle and family size if you know the users water consumption and you have the room to add enough leach lines for that life style of that particular user. Not to mention the cost to the owner for that particular lifestyle they live in their homes. Otherwise, the user may have to cut down on the enjoyable use of that superior water heater useage and be more water conservative. The water once it goes down the drain has a place to go but once that place is maxed out then there is nowhere to go but up to the surface causing much irritation for all. Simply put a users water use records are the most necessary useable tool to figure out what may be causing system failures anywhere in the U. S.
The other side of the coin is if the user is not using near the maximum capacity of the system design and the system design is STILL failing after looking at water consumption records; then you could have serious issues with the builder, system installer, system inspector, basically all involved in that particular design to see where the problem is. Underground streams, tree roots, privacy fence posts, deep garden tilling are examples of homeowner possibilities of damaging their system without understanding they may caused their own system to fail by planting too close to their leach field. Underground streams Might be able to be altered with experts in that particular area(not intending the user has anything to do with causing an underground stream or spring on their property).
...this has been very informative.
Lavista Estates Resi

Vine Grove, KY

#27 Jun 1, 2011
Looky Here wrote:
<quoted text>As long as the system design has not been exceeded by the homeowners misuse like putting too much water into that particular design; then, it does not matter if 10 or 20 people are living in a 3 or 4 bedroom house. The users water consumption records is a good indicator as to the possibility of homeowner overuse or abuse of the system design. Some people can afford the largest hot water heater made in the U.S. that allows them to each take hour long showers and numerous loads of laundry and still have hot water left for all in the family, thinking this is great. However, because they love their long relaxing showers, at the end of the day the user could be using more water than the system can handle. Systems could be designed around the users lifestyle and family size if you know the users water consumption and you have the room to add enough leach lines for that life style of that particular user. Not to mention the cost to the owner for that particular lifestyle they live in their homes. Otherwise, the user may have to cut down on the enjoyable use of that superior water heater useage and be more water conservative. The water once it goes down the drain has a place to go but once that place is maxed out then there is nowhere to go but up to the surface causing much irritation for all. Simply put a users water use records are the most necessary useable tool to figure out what may be causing system failures anywhere in the U. S.
The other side of the coin is if the user is not using near the maximum capacity of the system design and the system design is STILL failing after looking at water consumption records; then you could have serious issues with the builder, system installer, system inspector, basically all involved in that particular design to see where the problem is. Underground streams, tree roots, privacy fence posts, deep garden tilling are examples of homeowner possibilities of damaging their system without understanding they may caused their own system to fail by planting too close to their leach field. Underground streams Might be able to be altered with experts in that particular area(not intending the user has anything to do with causing an underground stream or spring on their property).
I Agree 100 percent.
JimmieLeeTimMoor e or Less

Vine Grove, KY

#28 Jun 3, 2011
Where do YOU both stand on the sewer issue?
LtrFromFmrSenato rLizTori

Vine Grove, KY

#29 Jun 3, 2011
NewHere wrote:
Missed the story on wave3. Who actually installed the septic tanks there? I will be needing one on my property when our home is built. Just being on the look out.Thanks.
Dated January 19, 2010 to Tim Hinson

Dear Mr. Henson(misspelled):

I am very aware of the severe septic system problems you have in Rineyville. As you are aware, Rineyville does not have a local government. Your source of help will have to be at the county level.

I wish there was something i could do to help; however, my hands are tied. Good luck in your bid for public office. Keep me posted if you have the time.

Sincerely,
Elizabeth Tori
State Senator
Ashley Jordan

United States

#30 Jun 6, 2011
most of you are right and wrong at the same time neighborhoods like LaVista were created to be just what they are rental homes for Military which means they are not built with the same kinda materials that someone would build their own home would pine or cheaper wood instead of a wood like oak and vinyl instead of brick or at least better quality under boards for the vinyl the point is these homes aren't built to last long and be honest renters don't take care of things military or not. So if you combine destructive renters and poorly built homes than serious problems accrue septic just happens to be the first and in 10-15 years the foundations will settle and it will become a trashier place to live . The house in Winchester park in Elizabethtown are gonna be the same way and the are 250,0000-1,000,000 homes
charles

Duffield, VA

#31 Jun 10, 2011
Ashley Jordan wrote:
most of you are right and wrong at the same time neighborhoods like LaVista were created to be just what they are rental homes for Military which means they are not built with the same kinda materials that someone would build their own home would pine or cheaper wood instead of a wood like oak and vinyl instead of brick or at least better quality under boards for the vinyl the point is these homes aren't built to last long and be honest renters don't take care of things military or not. So if you combine destructive renters and poorly built homes than serious problems accrue septic just happens to be the first and in 10-15 years the foundations will settle and it will become a trashier place to live . The house in Winchester park in Elizabethtown are gonna be the same way and the are 250,0000-1,000,000 homes
These houses are the same quality as you see in alot of the subdivisions in hardin county. They used packages from 84 lumber and I think carters lumber. a vinyl house will last just as long as brick if taken care of properly. The brambletts might not be the most honest people in the world, but they do try and fix what goes wrong, if something does go wrong.
Ashley Jordan

United States

#32 Jun 10, 2011
yes they are built the same as alot of new neighborhoods in Hardin county and noone said they were dishonest but homes are not built like older homes and as I said before vinyl isn't the problem its the quality of the materials you think 84 lumber and carters only sell one kinda wood if you chose to build with cheap materials understand these are not Isolated incidents if it was one or two houses you can blame bad luck or the land but when its almost an entire subdivision built by the same people than its because of they way they were built glue four poker cards in a square than take pop sickle sticks build a square with four sides which will last longer? So when you add poor materials and renters guess what happens SERIOUS problems this has nothing to do with these people being good or bad its business you keep cost down as much as possible noone is to really to blame these house have exceeded their prime all houses do some faster than others
Russ

Duffield, VA

#33 Jun 11, 2011
Ashley Jordan wrote:
yes they are built the same as alot of new neighborhoods in Hardin county and noone said they were dishonest but homes are not built like older homes and as I said before vinyl isn't the problem its the quality of the materials you think 84 lumber and carters only sell one kinda wood if you chose to build with cheap materials understand these are not Isolated incidents if it was one or two houses you can blame bad luck or the land but when its almost an entire subdivision built by the same people than its because of they way they were built glue four poker cards in a square than take pop sickle sticks build a square with four sides which will last longer? So when you add poor materials and renters guess what happens SERIOUS problems this has nothing to do with these people being good or bad its business you keep cost down as much as possible noone is to really to blame these house have exceeded their prime all houses do some faster than others
You act like these houses are falling apart. Last time I went into la vista I sure didnt see any houses falling down.
Ashley Jordan

United States

#34 Jun 11, 2011
Russ wrote:
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You act like these houses are falling apart. Last time I went into la vista I sure didnt see any houses falling down.
These houses wont last is what I'm saying and yea they are tearing up septic and I have heard alot of roof damage from that area (exceeding normal damage from storms) take a house from early 1900s excusing being tore down and fire and storm damage alot are not only standing and livable but have few problems
JimmieLee TimMoore

Vine Grove, KY

#35 Jun 11, 2011
What can you tell us about this alleged "Scandle?"
WheresJimmieLeeO rTimMoore

Vine Grove, KY

#36 Jul 8, 2011
...at on the Lavista Estates-Rineyville Sewer issue? Do you have info on any suspected corruption?
LaVista Estates Resi

Vine Grove, KY

#39 Jul 13, 2011
I will be waiting with my finger on speed dial to the Attorney General's Office.
Should EPA

Elizabethtown, KY

#40 Jan 4, 2012
...Come down on anyone regarding LaVista Estates subdivision developement?

I heard that there is going to be legal nightmare when the citizens in that subdivision HAVE to go onto County SEWER. not to mention the people outside that subdivision if they are FORCED onto SEWER.

It ALL depends on the county ordinance that gets past.
Got served

Elizabethtown, KY

#41 May 15, 2012
bad land wrote:
I don't live in Lavista and still have septic tank problems. The land out here does not have a deep layer of dirt; therefore, the sewage comes to the suface. We need county hook up out 1600, in Rineyville, and out St. Johns Rd. We have invested lots of money of different types of lateral lines because we were told by inspectors to install. There should be a sewage plant built out this way to take care of the problems. after all when it rains and all drains in to the water system, everyone is drinking it. It all flows into creeks. Watch out! don't let your kids play in creeks!
Have you gotten served with the correct info on county hook-up?
Got served

Elizabethtown, KY

#42 May 15, 2012
In the KNOW wrote:
<quoted text>When was your septic system installed? Who was it installed by? Who was your septic system inspector? If the system was installed before 1980 the Div. of Plumbing inspected it. After 1980ish the health departments took over that program. There is a notorious health department inspector whose character is questionable.
Do you know who your gov. agents and private contractors were?
Ask him

Elizabethtown, KY

#43 May 19, 2012
Ask him what he knows about a sewer, septic system SCANDAL in your neighborhood!

1.Hardin County Judge-Executive Harry Berry
2.State Representative Jimmy Lee
3.State Representative Tim Moore
4.State Senator Dennis Parrett

If they tell you they know nothing, be sure and document that for your records later, when this bubble begins to burst.

Someone will be calling them out on this "SCANDAL" soon.
Wtff

United States

#44 May 20, 2012
Our house has already settled and our room above the garage is about 2 inches away from the rest of our house. Huge crack down the wall. Same with the floor. Very ghetto

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