Steven Gray - What is wrong with this...

Steven Gray - What is wrong with this town?

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ruserious

Elizabethtown, KY

#1 Dec 6, 2011
Mistrial - seriously? What is wrong with our judicial system? You can get away with anything in this town. What a great example to send our children... "It's ok if your teacher rapes you, it's your fault. Seriously come on people...this man should be behind bars for a long time. And what kind of example does this set for other teachers?...go ahead and do it there will be NO consequences. This is just sick!! Come to Hardin co where you can murder someone or rape someone, the law won't do anything to you.
Not Rape

Campbellsville, KY

#2 Dec 6, 2011
It wasn't even statutory rape.

He was simply abusing his position of trust by sleeping with his students.

There will be consequences, even if they aren't criminal. Gray and Gentry won't teach again.
dean

Elizabethtown, KY

#3 Dec 6, 2011
Rape is a serious allegation. Before you say someone has raped someone you should consider the seriousness of what you're accusing. In this whole trial rape wasn't what was being argued, it was an abuse of authority. Why is so little attention given to young people who put their selves in bad positons? The so called victims were not the innocent here they were young people void of a good moral upbringing to avoid being involved in such situations. My biggest question here is why didn't the parents have any idea where their children were and of their activities. It seems to me that the parents were more responsible here than stephen gray, not that I'm saying he's innocent but he merely fell victim to the lure of the desires of flesh as so many very young teachers do. You really have to think of the odd psychological effects of being such a young teacher in a high school today and maybe your thinking of this whole matter would be a little different as well. Just my opinion...
howterrible

Elizabethtown, KY

#4 Dec 6, 2011
dean wrote:
Rape is a serious allegation. Before you say someone has raped someone you should consider the seriousness of what you're accusing. In this whole trial rape wasn't what was being argued, it was an abuse of authority. Why is so little attention given to young people who put their selves in bad positons? The so called victims were not the innocent here they were young people void of a good moral upbringing to avoid being involved in such situations. My biggest question here is why didn't the parents have any idea where their children were and of their activities. It seems to me that the parents were more responsible here than stephen gray, not that I'm saying he's innocent but he merely fell victim to the lure of the desires of flesh as so many very young teachers do. You really have to think of the odd psychological effects of being such a young teacher in a high school today and maybe your thinking of this whole matter would be a little different as well. Just my opinion...
Most likely the young girls weren't getting the attention and dicipline that was needed at home so when the teacher gave them attention then they went for it. Most parents are not worried about their children out here doing things they shouldn't do just so they are not at home bothering them. Yeah the teacher should have known better. He was suppose to be an educated man for the students to look up too but he is also human. How old were these girls? There are so many broken homes that the parents are seldom home and the kids do anything that comes to mind. You know there are always two sides to every story. I have never in my life heard of so much of this going on and I have never heard of so many mothers boyfriends abusing and killing the little babies, I just don't know what is wrong with this world today. The little girls grow up so fast and I think it has to do with all the chemicals that are put in the cattle that make them grow faster. Think about it, kids love McDonalds and that is beef and most families eat out most of the time. What a mess our world is in today, it can't stand much longer.
wanted

Tell City, IN

#5 Dec 6, 2011
ruserious wrote:
Mistrial - seriously? What is wrong with our judicial system? You can get away with anything in this town. What a great example to send our children... "It's ok if your teacher rapes you, it's your fault. Seriously come on people...this man should be behind bars for a long time. And what kind of example does this set for other teachers?...go ahead and do it there will be NO consequences. This is just sick!! Come to Hardin co where you can murder someone or rape someone, the law won't do anything to you.
NO rape occured, those girls knew what they were doing and they wanted it just as much as he did. He just abused authority as stated, really he didn't even do that like i said the young girls now days will do it to anyone with the drop of a hat, they don't care who's weak and falls for the sexual attacks and ruins their lives because their older, they just entice men of any age and then when it happens they run their mouths and make like it was the mans fault, it takes 2 no matter what age and with todays generation, age makes no difference if your willing to play their games!! The men had just better wisen up to the tricks!!
wtf

United States

#6 Dec 6, 2011
How on earth can anyone defend this man? The girls never said he raped them. They admitted and were honest about their part in it. However, they were not the adult or the one in the position of authority. He was and was the one on trial for a reason. He admitted to sleeping with one and fondling the other....he is guilty. Should be simple but apparently our justice system in Hardin co is a joke. The jury must have had a perv on it that agreed with this kind of behavior like some people on here. And why blame the parents? How about you blame the teacher that slept with the student? The defense argued that you can't subject someone to something they want, so I guess from now on in Hardin co it will be okay for teachers to sleep with students as long as the student wants it. I am ashamed to say I live in Hardin county today.
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Elizabethtown, KY

#7 Dec 6, 2011
The man was inticed by two young girls, they new what they were doing. They had a crush on their teacher they admitted it, yes he was wrong for using his teacher status, BUT IT HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL GROUNDS he was not a teacher then, he was their LOVER. So get over it.
knowyourplaceho

Nashville, TN

#9 Dec 6, 2011
ruserious wrote:
Mistrial - seriously? What is wrong with our judicial system? You can get away with anything in this town. What a great example to send our children... "It's ok if your teacher rapes you, it's your fault. Seriously come on people...this man should be behind bars for a long time. And what kind of example does this set for other teachers?...go ahead and do it there will be NO consequences. This is just sick!! Come to Hardin co where you can murder someone or rape someone, the law won't do anything to you.
he didnt rape anyone, he was young there were young girls who thought they were grown that flirted with him and acted like WOMEN. i am not saying what he did was ok, he took advantage of young girls and his position as an educator..... BUT these girls were not forced into anything they werent already TRYING to be a part of. i think he is a scum bag loser and needs an old fashioned assbeating from those girls dads... but you cant say he raped them bc that isnt what happened. he is definitely a pervert and i have no respect left for him at all (mind you i know him and the girls personally and have witnessed on multiple occasions this bhavior at the school) and he did wrong leading these girls on and taking advantage of them but they werent little virgins that were scared out of their pants, they are nearly grown and wanted to do big girl things...
WhAtever

Elizabethtown, KY

#10 Dec 6, 2011
County attorneys office needs to stop wasting our tax dollars and pick the charge that fits. 1st degree criminal sexual abuse wasn't the right charge in this case.
assuming

Radcliff, KY

#11 Dec 6, 2011
howterrible wrote:
<quoted text>Most likely the young girls weren't getting the attention and dicipline that was needed at home so when the teacher gave them attention then they went for it. Most parents are not worried about their children out here doing things they shouldn't do just so they are not at home bothering them. Yeah the teacher should have known better. He was suppose to be an educated man for the students to look up too but he is also human. How old were these girls? There are so many broken homes that the parents are seldom home and the kids do anything that comes to mind. You know there are always two sides to every story. I have never in my life heard of so much of this going on and I have never heard of so many mothers boyfriends abusing and killing the little babies, I just don't know what is wrong with this world today. The little girls grow up so fast and I think it has to do with all the chemicals that are put in the cattle that make them grow faster. Think about it, kids love McDonalds and that is beef and most families eat out most of the time. What a mess our world is in today, it can't stand much longer.
I know the family of one of the girls. You are absolutely speaking about a girl and family you do not know to make such a statement. No broken home but a very close-knit family with parents who are devoted to the children and each other. Nothing less than a supportive, loving, good family. Most would wish for that. I could not let you make such statements without enlightening you on the facts when you are totally misinformed.
annoyed

Bowling Green, KY

#12 Dec 6, 2011
howterrible wrote:
<quoted text>Most likely the young girls weren't getting the attention and dicipline that was needed at home so when the teacher gave them attention then they went for it. Most parents are not worried about their children out here doing things they shouldn't do just so they are not at home bothering them. Yeah the teacher should have known better. He was suppose to be an educated man for the students to look up too but he is also human. How old were these girls? There are so many broken homes that the parents are seldom home and the kids do anything that comes to mind. You know there are always two sides to every story. I have never in my life heard of so much of this going on and I have never heard of so many mothers boyfriends abusing and killing the little babies, I just don't know what is wrong with this world today. The little girls grow up so fast and I think it has to do with all the chemicals that are put in the cattle that make them grow faster. Think about it, kids love McDonalds and that is beef and most families eat out most of the time. What a mess our world is in today, it can't stand much longer.
how do you have any right to judge how these girls were raised? YOU DONT! Im sure when you were thier age you were prefect right? YOu told your parents exactly where you were, what you were doing and told them each time you did something they did not approve of, right? yeah probably not. So unless you have a perfect life and do no wrong, you have no right to judge these girls. And how do you go from a sick teacher going after girls to McDonalds meat? Your words on here are dumb and useless.
WhAtever

Elizabethtown, KY

#13 Dec 6, 2011
Even young adults that come from the best of families make bad choices. Both girls got caught in lies in court. I feel sorry for the families of both girls and the embarrassment they must be feeling as the truth unfolded. I'm not saying that this teacher wasn't wrong in his choices but both girls persued this man and they are part of the blame in this mess. By no means are either of these girls angels.
In court the county attorneys office tried to paint this teacher as a predator and this is where the case fell apart. I think the jury wanted to punish the crime but didn't see that this man tricked or lured these girls. This man was not the girls teacher when the encounters occurred. For the first she stalked this guy for months schemed her way to getting his phone number finding his address.
As parents we want to protect our children from bad things and sometimes in doing so it is hard to see the role our children's play in the bad things. There is plenty of blame to go around and all parties need to be accountable for their part. This is why the prosecution needs to change the charge to one that will fit the crime and will stick so that all can move on and get on with their lives.
guessing

Elizabethtown, KY

#14 Dec 6, 2011
assuming wrote:
<quoted text>
I know the family of one of the girls. You are absolutely speaking about a girl and family you do not know to make such a statement. No broken home but a very close-knit family with parents who are devoted to the children and each other. Nothing less than a supportive, loving, good family. Most would wish for that. I could not let you make such statements without enlightening you on the facts when you are totally misinformed.
Are you a relative? Sounds like it! Is this the first time you've ever acknowledged that it happened to anyone? Funny it came about on topix.
dejavue

Elizabethtown, KY

#15 Dec 6, 2011
It's the prosecutor's office people and the jurors! We don't have jurors with enough brains to do anything in Hardin County. Now the real joke is the county attorney's office. It should be shut down. What exactly is their duties? Who exactly is over them? What can be done to rid the office of worthless lawyers?
oh yeah

Campbellsville, KY

#16 Dec 6, 2011
WhAtever wrote:
Even young adults that come from the best of families make bad choices. Both girls got caught in lies in court. I feel sorry for the families of both girls and the embarrassment they must be feeling as the truth unfolded. I'm not saying that this teacher wasn't wrong in his choices but both girls persued this man and they are part of the blame in this mess. By no means are either of these girls angels.
In court the county attorneys office tried to paint this teacher as a predator and this is where the case fell apart. I think the jury wanted to punish the crime but didn't see that this man tricked or lured these girls. This man was not the girls teacher when the encounters occurred. For the first she stalked this guy for months schemed her way to getting his phone number finding his address.
As parents we want to protect our children from bad things and sometimes in doing so it is hard to see the role our children's play in the bad things. There is plenty of blame to go around and all parties need to be accountable for their part. This is why the prosecution needs to change the charge to one that will fit the crime and will stick so that all can move on and get on with their lives.
So EXACTLY what were the lies these girls got caught telling in court? The newspaper didnt say this and telling lies in court is perjury and that was not reported either. So keep your opinions to yourself if you cant tell the truth.
ronny r

Louisville, KY

#17 Dec 6, 2011
dejavue wrote:
It's the prosecutor's office people and the jurors! We don't have jurors with enough brains to do anything in Hardin County. Now the real joke is the county attorney's office. It should be shut down. What exactly is their duties? Who exactly is over them? What can be done to rid the office of worthless lawyers?
You hit the nail on the head.
WhAtever

Elizabethtown, KY

#18 Dec 6, 2011
Wow. There is a lot of wrong and misleading information in the news enterprise not only in this story but in a lot of stories. You are correct. They don't print that stuff in the paper but they should. Unless you sat through all the parties testimony u wouldn't get the full picture. Just like in the Burke trail, if you where not there you didn't get that the Kentucky State Police dropped the ball in poor investigation. It wasn't the court system or the prosecution that failed it was the KSP.
Come on it's the news enterprise let's be honest.... They don't get much right.
WhAtever

Elizabethtown, KY

#19 Dec 6, 2011
ronny r wrote:
<quoted text>You hit the nail on the head.
You would have to contact the Commonwealth Attorneys office in Frankfort. Jack Conway's office.
WhAtever

Elizabethtown, KY

#20 Dec 6, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>So EXACTLY what were the lies these girls got caught telling in court? The newspaper didnt say this and telling lies in court is perjury and that was not reported either. So keep your opinions to yourself if you cant tell the truth.
My reply is further down. No need for personal attacks. Just my perception of how things unfolded.
ronny r

Louisville, KY

#21 Dec 6, 2011
WhAtever wrote:
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You would have to contact the Commonwealth Attorneys office in Frankfort. Jack Conway's office.
Jack Conway another politician crook.

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