Ed Alexander at it again. Another principal out.

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Betsy Fan

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I will have to say I was shocked by the way some people acted at the meeting at West Side tonight. Mr. Mitchell how unprofessional your actions and by the way that school that you said is your school or your home tonight is not it belongs to the taxpayers of Elizabehtton. Also, not all parents that were there were pro Mr. Mitchell! They came to hear what had to be said and the the mother that spoke about her son with the allergy issues that was booed. That was sad. 6596
Bless your heart...Mr. Mitchell is an educated man. I am sure he is aware of who the school actually belongs too. The reference to his school/his home was a heartfelt expression of his devotion and care for the students, families, and school personnel. Similar expressions are said when parents are defending their children. However, since he also is a taxpayer, I guess he can call it his school too.
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Everyone is so ready to boot Ed out the door but I've yet to hear of a suitable replacement. Who within the system would everyone agree on or at the least be ok with taking over?
When finding a replacement for a superintendent, I believe that it would best for the system to bring in new blood. I think that bringing someone from within the system will simply put us right back in the same mess that we are in with Ed. There is far too much small town political pull in the Elizabethton School System. When Ed was fired by Roper, everyone loved him. Ed was a great principal. He knew every student in the school by name and would stand in the hallway between almost every class period and engage the students. He was a principal that truly cared for the student body, and that is where he should have stayed.

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When finding a replacement for a superintendent, I believe that it would best for the system to bring in new blood. I think that bringing someone from within the system will simply put us right back in the same mess that we are in with Ed. There is far too much small town political pull in the Elizabethton School System. When Ed was fired by Roper, everyone loved him. Ed was a great principal. He knew every student in the school by name and would stand in the hallway between almost every class period and engage the students. He was a principal that truly cared for the student body, and that is where he should have stayed.
I agree 100%. I loved Ed when I was in school. He helped me thru some tough times and was always there if I needed to vent frustration or just shoot the breeze. But that side of him seems to have given way to a more hard-nosed side. Guess the saying "power corrupts" is ringing true. Then again no matter what has happened unless you are personally involved you never quite know the truth. Theres three sides to a story; your side, my side, and the truth. That being said I also think they should go outside the community to find a replacement if that is the next step. Then all they people claiming we should promote from within because they "know the needs and issues" people can come out and raise a fuss.
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The only person I would put in the superintendent position that already has ties to the system is Dr. Jessie Strickland. She did a good job when she was superintendent and was truly missed when she left.
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When finding a replacement for a superintendent, I believe that it would best for the system to bring in new blood. I think that bringing someone from within the system will simply put us right back in the same mess that we are in with Ed. There is far too much small town political pull in the Elizabethton School System. When Ed was fired by Roper, everyone loved him. Ed was a great principal. He knew every student in the school by name and would stand in the hallway between almost every class period and engage the students. He was a principal that truly cared for the student body, and that is where he should have stayed.
Outside the system would probably be best but in or out Alexander needs to go. His tenure has been frought with controversary. It is now in the hands of the board members. Rita Booher can't be looked to as she simply is a minion of Alexander. Hopefully one of the 2 new board members will come to Mr Mitchells rescue and also don't forget Ed is demoting a 16 year, single mother employee. She needs our help also.
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Why do people have to be so mean? Name calling, hateful remarks, personal attacks seem to be the way people in Elizabethton respond to most situations. You can support one principal without attacking and trying to hurt other principals. Everyone SHOULD stand for what they believe is right but not by hurting other people and their families. How many people that spoke at the WSE meeting have ever attended a school board meeting? How many have spoken with a board member or any of the other administrators in the system. I can only pray that cooler heads will prevail and that this situation will be handled in a manner that keeps the children's well-being and education as the main focus!
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Betsy Blogger wrote:
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Outside the system would probably be best but in or out Alexander needs to go. His tenure has been frought with controversary. It is now in the hands of the board members. Rita Booher can't be looked to as she simply is a minion of Alexander. Hopefully one of the 2 new board members will come to Mr Mitchells rescue and also don't forget Ed is demoting a 16 year, single mother employee. She needs our help also.
Who is the 16 year single mother that's being demoted?
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Peggy Moore the schools bookeeper.

If Ed wants to keep his job, he will reverse course and keep Mitchell and Moore.

This whole deal is over Ed wanting Mitchell to take the heat for removing Moore, and Mitchell wouldnt do it. This was reported in the JC Press this morning.
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One parent spoke against Mr. Mitchell last night (and she has ALWAYS been negative about EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY and everyone who had kids at WSE with her kids knows it). The rest were overwhelmingly in favor of him. As for his heated exchange with Mr. Alexander, I would say most of us would get fired up if someone stood in front of a large group of people spouting lies and threatening our reputation. I think it was a great way to show Ed that he's not going to be bullied by him and neither are the parents or teachers.

At some point, Ed supporters need to recognize the fact that he is not in this for the kids, but for the power. If he cared about the children, he would never have started this mess. He has done this over and over to good employees who didn't kiss his rear and now he's paying the price.

His arguments against Mr. Mitchell were completely ignorant and so vague no court of law would ever uphold a termination based upon them. Mr. Alexander put himself on the hot seat last night and was surprised to find that there are people who won't agree with him out of fear. Elizabethton needs new blood on the board (out with the old 3, in with 3 new) and new blood on the hill. Someone from outside Elizabethton to be exact. This buddy system has not worked for a long time.

One lady said it best last night - she said Alexander pits his employees against one another -- have you ever heard of a supervisor that has to ask the opinion of his subordinates about another subordinate before he can take action? And she also said shame on us if we let this continue. It's our chance to stop the madness and the corruption. We better take it. Be at the school board meeting on April 18th, get your name on the agenda to speak, and give clear, concise argument for retaining Mr. Mitchell and getting rid of Ed Alexander.
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The comment made earlier about not being able to satisfy parents could not be more off. That is not true. We are not rich, I actually pay for my daughter to go to Westside and it isnt easy to get the money. Mr. Mitchell is an awesome Principal. I dont know what is going on, but I will tell you that last night, at the meeting, there more tons of furious parents there and most were yelling at Ed. I put my child in Westside because I know she is safe and that they have structure and high expectations. I went to county schools but because of West Side and Mr. Mitchell's kindness and attitude, I scrape together every way possible to keep her there. If we lose him as Principal, it will be bad for all involved.
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Agree wrote:
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You are correct; however, I doubt any of them have the guts to do it.
Mrs. Armstrong and Mrs. Baker DO have 'the guts' to ask for Mr. Alexander's resignation and would, if they knew they had ONE more vote to support them.Mrs. Booher will NEVER say anything against Mr. Alexander, so the two to put PRESSRE on are the two new members: Phil Isaacs and Grover May
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WhatisgoingonElizabethtin wrote:
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This is just mean!!! My children go to HME and I cannot brag enough on the education that is provided, as well as, the wonderful job Mr.Culbert does as principal. I have always been told if you can't say something nice not to say anything at all.
The children at HME DO get a great education,but that is only because the teacher there are SO dedicated and willdo anything for their students, no matter how little support they get from the Principal. STAFF viewpoints are completely different from PARENTS,but that is understandable. I have seen first hand,all of what was quoted and more. The Principal's jobis to support his teachers, as Mr. Mitchell has so admirably done.
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george wrote:
Peggy Moore the schools bookeeper.
If Ed wants to keep his job, he will reverse course and keep Mitchell and Moore.
This whole deal is over Ed wanting Mitchell to take the heat for removing Moore, and Mitchell wouldnt do it. This was reported in the JC Press this morning.
Unfortunately, if Dr. Alexander does 'reverse course' and allow Mr. Mitchell and Ms. Moore to keep their positions,they will 'pay' one way or another and Mr. Alexander will be watching their every move. Once you are on Mr. Alexander's 'bad side' he will NEVER forgive or forget...
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The comment made earlier about not being able to satisfy parents could not be more off. That is not true. We are not rich, I actually pay for my daughter to go to Westside and it isnt easy to get the money. Mr. Mitchell is an awesome Principal. I dont know what is going on, but I will tell you that last night, at the meeting, there more tons of furious parents there and most were yelling at Ed. I put my child in Westside because I know she is safe and that they have structure and high expectations. I went to county schools but because of West Side and Mr. Mitchell's kindness and attitude, I scrape together every way possible to keep her there. If we lose him as Principal, it will be bad for all involved.
Wasn't it confirmed that more than half of our students are from low income families at WSE? Mr Alexander's comment that kids from wealthy, two parent homes give WSE good test scores was way off base. Kids from single parent and low income homes also have good grades! I grew up poor and I have a Masters degree MR Ed! Quit picking on low income people and blaming them for low test scores and quit pitting the schools against each other and asking principals to hang each other publicly. Wen will this madness end???
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<quoted text>Unfortunately, if Dr. Alexander does 'reverse course' and allow Mr. Mitchell and Ms. Moore to keep their positions,they will 'pay' one way or another and Mr. Alexander will be watching their every move. Once you are on Mr. Alexander's 'bad side' he will NEVER forgive or forget...
Thank you for the correction toward the end of the post. It is Mr. Alexander not Dr. Alexander. And you are absolutely right...those two as well as any other faculty/staff member of ECS that attended the meeting should start searching for a new job. In fact, many were called into a meeting asking why their names were on the fb page in support of Mr. Mitchell. They had only been invited to the group, but they didn't join. Don't think for a second that ECA doesn't have people reading fb pages and all of these posts on topix.

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After reading thru this topic, I have come to the conclusion that this is the best example of Operations Management 101 AT ITS WORST. I don't have any children in the city school system so I don't have an axe to grind about teachers, principals or administrators. Overall, I am sure that there are some very good employees in the school system and they all deserve the best in their leadership.

In the area of management, there is a maxim called the "Peter Principle". According to this ideology, people that are promoted based on achievement, success, or merit, will eventually be promoted BEYOND their level of ability. The principle is usually phrased, "Employees tend to be promoted to their level of INCOMPETENCE."

To see this in practice here is an example: We have a teacher who is considered the absolute best among their peers...and by extension...someone in an administrative capacity makes the decision that this teacher would do just as well as a supervisor of teachers. So the teacher is promoted to be a principal, and in most cases, does pretty good.

However; this is not so for all...there are some teachers that fail miserably as principals...and some principals that fail miserably as administrators. WHY?...their past performance and training/education is not enough for them to be effective in their new leadership role...they simply do not have the ability/capability to handle the responsibilities.

Until school systems and school boards begin to grasp this basic, fundamental truth, we will continue to see these types of situations. It is very unfortunate that all of this had to play out in the media. That in itself is an embarrassment that should not be tolerated by the school board. If this same situation had occurred in a business entity, there would be multiple individuals receiving disciplinary actions up to and including termination. The whole situation has been mishandled from the very beginning...and I am sure that we have not heard the last of this...from either side.
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I will have to say I was shocked by the way some people acted at the meeting at West Side tonight. Mr. Mitchell how unprofessional your actions and by the way that school that you said is your school or your home tonight is not it belongs to the taxpayers of Elizabehtton. Also, not all parents that were there were pro Mr. Mitchell! They came to hear what had to be said and the the mother that spoke about her son with the allergy issues that was booed. That was sad. 6596
I was at the meeting last night for the entire time and I never heard
ANYONE 'boo' the parent who spoke of her child with the allergies.As for Mr. Mitchell's 'unprofessional' behavior--that is laughable. Mr. Mitchell had a file of records that proved that Mr. Alexander was either lying or exaggerating when it came to his 'vague' accusations.How much is one person supposed to take before they respond??
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2006 alum wrote:
Quick question: when Dr. David Roper fired Ed as principal of EHS, how many public meetings did he call to explain himself?
ZERO.
Also how many times did Ed grab the mic at a public meeting and shout down Dr. roper?
ZERO.
Just sayin'.
Dr. Roper was hired specifically by the Board at the time to fire Mr. Alexander.He did what he was told and no more. He was not allowed to 'explain himself' or hold a meeting as was held last night. He 'opened up' about all of that after he left. He did nothing that that Board did not tell him to do and unfortunately in Mr. Alexander's case, he seems to do whatever he pleases, without the knowledge of the present Board
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Not everyone at that meeting last night was in support or Mr. Mitchell, They were just afraid to speak up because of what would happen to their children. Very unprofessional conduct on Mr. Mitchell's part. Is that the type of person we want to run West Side school. Not much of a role model if you ask me. He forgets he has position because
Mr. Alexander hired him. Mr. Alexander called last nights meeting as a courtesy answer session for parents and instead it turned into a Mitchell Rally. But there were a lot of people their that don't have any ties to that school. Most importantly if Mr. Mitchell really has all this support of the parents of the children that attend school there. Then where was everybody?

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