N.J. governor signs indoor smoking ban

N.J. governor signs indoor smoking ban

There are 149 comments on the News Journal story from Jan 16, 2006, titled N.J. governor signs indoor smoking ban. In it, News Journal reports that:

With a flick of the pen, Gov. Richard J. Codey on Sunday kicked New Jersey's indoor smoking habit.

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PPP

Old Bridge, NJ

#21 Feb 23, 2006
Obesity-problem
free internet porn-problem
terrorists-problem
housing prices-problem

How can we fix this?.....
hmmm.....I know, ban smoking?
I don't get it......
Bill

Somerset, NJ

#22 Feb 26, 2006
I'm a non smoker and i dont remember seeing this at the polls. I would have voted against it. What ever happend to personal choice. If non smokers are so worried about the smoke start your own smoke free bar or night club. To many individual rights are being stripped from the people.
Saskia from South Dakota

AOL

#23 Feb 26, 2006
You're right Bill too many individual rights are being stripped away. I'm also wondering what happened to personal choice. First they're trying to take away smokers rights, then they're banning abortions, they don't take but just plain refuse to grant any rights whatsoever to gays which is just as bad. What's next? I'm not saying I support all of these things but man! when are they going to draw the line?

Since: Dec 05

Palo Alto, CA

#24 Feb 27, 2006
You mean like the right to breath clean air? ;)
Saskia from South Dakota wrote:
You're right Bill too many individual rights are being stripped away. I'm also wondering what happened to personal choice. First they're trying to take away smokers rights, then they're banning abortions, they don't take but just plain refuse to grant any rights whatsoever to gays which is just as bad. What's next? I'm not saying I support all of these things but man! when are they going to draw the line?
Saskia from South Dakota

AOL

#25 Feb 27, 2006
newt wrote:
You mean like the right to breath clean air? ;)

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Yes, the right to breathe clean air is equally as important. I'm interested in whether the smokers main concern is actually about individual rights and freedom to choose for "ALL" or if it is only about the rights of smokers. If they're lobbying for individual rights and the freedom to choose then it encompasses more than just the rights of smokers. We're a self-centered society. We demand rights and freedom of choice when it's in our own interests but continue to deny rights to others when we disagree with the choices they make. Wondered where the smokers drew the line on who they feel is worthy of individual rights and freedom to choose......
Bill Hannegan

Salisbury, MD

#26 Feb 27, 2006
If there were a right to breathe clean air we would have to ban cars and buses on city streets. If you don't have a right to clean air on city streets, why do you have such a right in a private bar or club? Isn't there some way smokers can get away from antismokers and have some peace with their friends indoors?

Plenty of nonsmokers are against these bans. One fellow got up in front of our county council hearing and said,"I've never smoked. I don't want to be around people who smoke. I HATE SMOKE! But I think I hate this ban more.
You're chipping away at our freedoms!"
Saskia from South Dakota

AOL

#27 Feb 27, 2006
If I support your right to smoke wherever you please will you support my right to have an abortion? Will you support my right to euthanize myself if I should develop a rare form of a painful fatal disease with no cure? Will you support my right to marry Elizabeth? Will you support my right to burn the American flag and my bra? Will you support my right to publish pornography? Will you support my right to freedom of speech when I call people fags or the "N" word or publish books to teach others how to terrorize others who are somehow different? Will you support my right to carry a firearm? If it's all about personal rights and freedom to choose there's more to consider than just the right to smoke where you please. Are you willing to support all personal rights and freedoms or just the ones that apply to you and your lifestyle?
PPP

Old Bridge, NJ

#28 Feb 27, 2006
Haven't you heard rap music? It's all there.
They're free to say whatever THEY want.

We should've been allowed to vote on this ban.
Not fair at all.
Saskia from South Dakota wrote:
If I support your right to smoke wherever you please will you support my right to have an abortion? Will you support my right to euthanize myself if I should develop a rare form of a painful fatal disease with no cure? Will you support my right to marry Elizabeth? Will you support my right to burn the American flag and my bra? Will you support my right to publish pornography? Will you support my right to freedom of speech when I call people fags or the "N" word or publish books to teach others how to terrorize others who are somehow different? Will you support my right to carry a firearm? If it's all about personal rights and freedom to choose there's more to consider than just the right to smoke where you please. Are you willing to support all personal rights and freedoms or just the ones that apply to you and your lifestyle?
Mike S

United States

#29 Feb 28, 2006
Another ignorant person. Look at every place that smoking has been banned indoors. All business owners say they have more business now than before the ban. The argument doesn't hold any weight anymore. It has been proven not to be true. Get your head out of your ass and look at the facts. Stop blowing smoke.
JennaC wrote:
Casinos offer Non smoking rooms ... I Fully agree that this is going to hurt NJ's business's .. it is going a bit to far.
Resturants are understandable... when people are eating they do not want to have smoke in their faces, and the little peice of glass that seperates the smoking section from the non is useless. But I believe that it is shame that you can no longer go to a bar and smoke. This is going to make the small business owners loose alot of profit. NY bars have lost alot of profit after there ban. For 100's of years this has not been a problem and no offence but if you are a non smoker and you walk into the dingy bar around the corner you expect smoke in your face. It is your choice to deal with it or not. There are pro's and con's of the ban, as I said banning resturants and food establishment is the best idea that they have ever had. But but removing smoking from the pubs and cafe's is juat senceless in my book.
Mike S

United States

#30 Feb 28, 2006
Obesity is a public health issue. The health problems from obesity, smoking, excessive drinking, etc., are all adding to the health insurance rates we pay. I would like to pay less for health insurance since I don't do these things and the people who add these risks to their body should pay more. Insurance is about risk and obeses people are at higher risk for health problems. Get your facts together first.
Lee wrote:
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All of this is coming sooner than you think. Once the sheeple of this country have been lied to about how obesity is a public health issue, you can be absolutely positive the government will place bans on the food you eat.
PPP

Old Bridge, NJ

#31 Feb 28, 2006
There are other issues to worry about. They wasted a lot of time and money on banning smoking. They picked the easiest "problem" to fix. Of course they fixed nothing.
They just destroyed a big social tool.

NYC bars have become so BORING. Attitudes have changed. The party atmoshere has changed as well. Not fun at all. New Jersey bars are next. I know a lot of non smokers who agree. Such a shame.

Lee

Woodbury, NJ

#32 Feb 28, 2006
Mike S wrote:
Obesity is a public health issue. The health problems from obesity, smoking, excessive drinking, etc., are all adding to the health insurance rates we pay. I would like to pay less for health insurance since I don't do these things and the people who add these risks to their body should pay more. Insurance is about risk and obeses people are at higher risk for health problems. Get your facts together first.

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If I accept your argument that anyones weight is a public health problem, enlighten me on what you would do to solve it.
Bill Hannegan

Salisbury, MD

#33 Feb 28, 2006
Yeah, it's not so much that you can't smoke. If I knew someone in the bar had asthma, I wouldn't smoke because it would be a kind and decent gesture not to. I would want him to stay and have a good time. No big deal. Rather it's that feeling of universal restriction that a smoking ban brings with it that ruins a bar experience.
Polly

AOL

#34 Feb 28, 2006
Bill Hannegan wrote:
Yeah, it's not so much that you can't smoke. If I knew someone in the bar had asthma, I wouldn't smoke because it would be a kind and decent gesture not to. I would want him to stay and have a good time. No big deal. Rather it's that feeling of universal restriction that a smoking ban brings with it that ruins a bar experience.
Bill, I've somehow lost track of what you're proposing to do.???? I miss a couple days and I'm completely lost - lol. So, you want people to ignore the ban, right? and smoke anyway? And what else? I know you presented a study done by the smokers club saying second hand smoke isn't as bad as they claim and that the lung association has been hiding the truth(?). But, what all do you want again? I need a refresher course.
Bill Hannegan

Salisbury, MD

#35 Mar 1, 2006
Polly, if a place has to restrict smoking at all, then I am in favor of this bill which I am currently pushing in St. Louis and elsewhere. Please tell me what you think. Could you live with the Gregali Bill?

http://stlcin.missouri.org/Document/aldermen/...
Bill Hannegan

Salisbury, MD

#36 Mar 1, 2006
PPP, have you read this essay about the NYC smoking ban?
http://www.joejackson.com/smoking.htm You and Joe Jackson are on the same page.
Polly

AOL

#37 Mar 1, 2006
Bill Hannegan wrote:
Polly, if a place has to restrict smoking at all, then I am in favor of this bill which I am currently pushing in St. Louis and elsewhere. Please tell me what you think. Could you live with the Gregali Bill?

http://stlcin.missouri.org/Document/aldermen/...
Bill, I could live with that. I would only frequent the non-smoking businesses though.
PPP

Old Bridge, NJ

#38 Mar 2, 2006
I did read that. I agree 100%.

I've been to Paris. They know what they are doing
there. The French eat these wonderful meals, drink
wine and smoke as well. They are all thin with the best
facial complexions I've ever seen (all ages.) I loved it there. So much fun!

I wish we were like them. Again, such a shame.....
Bill Hannegan wrote:
PPP, have you read this essay about the NYC smoking ban?
http://www.joejackson.com/smoking.htm You and Joe Jackson are on the same page.
Mike in NJ

Bronx, NY

#39 Mar 2, 2006
I'll give smokers their rights!! 10% off the Chemotherapy!! Good enough?
Hillybilly Joe

Reno, NV

#40 Mar 2, 2006
Mike in NJ wrote:
I'll give smokers their rights!! 10% off the Chemotherapy!! Good enough?
You are too kind to smokers -- I would have doubled the price of their treatments!

I live in the most uneducated, poor, polluted state in the nation and it has the 3rd highest rate of smokers in the U.S.

People have to be just plain stupid to smoke in today's world with all of the info that is out there on how bad it is.

I guess, Stupid is what stupid does.

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