17-year-old dies in chase after SUV r...

17-year-old dies in chase after SUV rolls 8 times

There are 123 comments on the KUSA Denver story from May 12, 2007, titled 17-year-old dies in chase after SUV rolls 8 times. In it, KUSA Denver reports that:

" Two 17-year-olds were in involved in an alleged stolen car chase on Friday, resulting in the death of one of teens and an injury for the other.

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Since: Apr 07

TiJuana, Co (Denver)

#21 May 12, 2007
What a fool. This girl needs to face some charges as soon as she recovers.
sassyyankee

Kissimmee, FL

#22 May 12, 2007
This was an absolute tragedy. A young boy, 1 month away from his eighteenth birthday, is dead. Yes, it was irresponsible, and thank God, no innocent bystanders were harmed. But, for all that I have read so far, no appears to be thinking of the family this boy has left behind. What of the feelings that family felt when they got the news? This boy has a mother and a father who have just lost a child. They have to bury their child! I do agree with some of the comments; the expenses to the girl, the owner of the vehicle, and I don't have an opinion as of yet of the speed sticks, but I don't think the police got any satisfaction out of the death of the boy. As a parent, all I can keep thinking about is the boy's family. They will be in my thoughts.
Just Me

Denver, CO

#23 May 12, 2007
What the wrote:
<quoted text>Why is it that really stupid comments come from people in Boulder? I guess it is really true that Boulder is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.
ROFLMAO!!1! Have not heard that one before, but BOY, does it ever fit!!!!!
Just Me

Denver, CO

#24 May 12, 2007
Ad Hominem wrote:
I completely disagree with the other Boulderite, though, who says, referring to the kid's death, "that's what you get for stealing". Perhaps this was hyperbole, but in a civilized society, that's NOT what you get for stealing. Speculate all you want about how that'd stop people from stealing, fact is it won't stop people from being dumb, being overwhelmed by irrational emotions, and making poor decisions, especially people who aren't even adults yet and are especially susceptible to states of mind incompatible with responsible driving.
Your tune will change when it's *your* son or daughter or other underage, immature family member who does something really risky and dumb and ends up severely injured or dead. People who think like you do now will be telling you your kid deserved what they got, and people who think like those you're currently critical of will be telling you what an awful parent you are for letting them get to be that age and still be making such bad decisions. What will you be saying then?
I agree with this statement. I am a law enforcement officer and I completely agree that being killed is not "justice" for stealing, or much else for that matter. There is a point, however, that is really being missed here, in my opinion. Law enforcement has no idea with whom they are dealing in a situation like this one. After the fact it is discovered that these were teens. That is a very sad thing, indeed. However, DURING the event that is not known to the officers, nor do they have a crystal ball that shows them that these individuals would not commit violent crimes sometime later if they were to be let go. Aggravated motor vehicle theft (essentially carjacking in this case) is a violent crime!! There is no way to know whether these people were armed and/ot a MAJOR threat to society. I can tell you this: If law enforcement would not have taken steps to stop them and they WERE dangerous and DID kill an innocent later on, then law enforcement would NEVER hear the end of how they did nothing to protect innocents. How would YOU like to be the officer who has to face the parents of an INNOCENT bystander who was killed by these two because the officer did nothing to stop them?? These things are NEVER as simple as some people would like to think.
Zach

Morrison, CO

#25 May 12, 2007
I knew the Girl as a good friend and i am really distrot at what happened...i had just recently saw her at Safeway after not seeing her for a couple of months.
Elizabeth Resident

Morrison, CO

#26 May 12, 2007
Elizabeth Student wrote:
Why wont they relase her name they both are the same age and they only relased his. I think we all would like to know her name in case we know her. They should relase her name every one is cerious to know who it is and want to know if it is their friend or not.....
If you go to thedenverchannel.com it lists the young girls name
Adios

Morrison, CO

#27 May 12, 2007
As far as I'm concerned, that's one less idiot in the world. I say, "Don't let the door hit you on the way out!". What a loser! No one should be sticking up for someone like that. Perhaps this sounds heartless, but scaring some poor woman checking her mail and stealing her car???? I think this kid got what was coming to him and this world is better off without numb nuts like him.
A Dad From Elizabeth

Denver, CO

#28 May 12, 2007
As a dad with two daughters albeit too young to drive for quite a few years, it still hurts my heart to think about this kind of thing happening out here. This kind of thing happening in "town" is why we moved out here. I agree with the other posts in that someone lost their baby even if they were seventeen. You can't tell me no matter who you are, that you never did anything stupid growing up. Did he deserve to pay for his actions, YES, did he deserve to die, NO. Police are not to blame, unfortunately the young man made a horrible mistake as did this young lady, and only prayers will help these families plunged into this hell. Our thoughts are with you....
gwats

Aurora, CO

#29 May 12, 2007
Allyson Jewell wrote:
They died why? The stop sticks and speed and young kids being scared to death... Now we have two more because of another high speed car chase there has to be a better way...
If these kids had parents who were worth a damn, perhaps taught the kids some ethics, they wouldn't have stolen the Expediton in the FIRST place because they would have KNOWN stealing is wrong! Scared? You're supposed to scared to steal! Are you HIGH? Now I'm sure you'll want to blame the Woman whose vehicle was stolen!
I hope the hell you don't have any teenagers.
gwats

Aurora, CO

#30 May 12, 2007
sassyyankee wrote:
This was an absolute tragedy. A young boy, 1 month away from his eighteenth birthday, is dead. Yes, it was irresponsible, and thank God, no innocent bystanders were harmed. But, for all that I have read so far, no appears to be thinking of the family this boy has left behind. What of the feelings that family felt when they got the news? This boy has a mother and a father who have just lost a child. They have to bury their child! I do agree with some of the comments; the expenses to the girl, the owner of the vehicle, and I don't have an opinion as of yet of the speed sticks, but I don't think the police got any satisfaction out of the death of the boy. As a parent, all I can keep thinking about is the boy's family. They will be in my thoughts.
Perhaps the parents should have spent some time on the basics of adult life, not stealing, not lying, treating others as you would like to be treated. This is a horrible way to find out you failed your kids
and for that, they have my sympathy for their pain must be great tonight.
we love you nick

Redmond, WA

#31 May 12, 2007
we will for ever miss you nick!
Longtime CO Resident

Denver, CO

#32 May 12, 2007
Don't blame the police people. They were just doing your job. As far as it being our duty to evaluate the police, that's not our job. That's the job of the police chiefs and sheriffs out there. We have no business judging the way they do their job because most don't know what policies are, what the do's and do not's are. That's why police have do have bosses. We have many great law enforcement officers out there that deserve the respect. If the officer that stops you is a jerk or tells you something you're unsure of, call his superior and find out what's going on. These kids knew what they were doing was wrong and it would have posed a greater risk to society if the police would not have used those stop sticks.
A Sad Mothers Day

Redmond, WA

#33 May 12, 2007
How sad for Nick's mom to be spending mothers day planning her childs funeral. I hope the young lady in the hospital comes out a new person. If not there is something very wrong with her. Remember we live and die by our choices we make each day. And those of you who think that this will never happen to you are in for a rude awakeing
Sad Day

Redmond, WA

#34 May 12, 2007
I don't think that bashing the parents will help them with their grief. You teach your children right from wrong and some still make deadly mistakes. I bet at this very moment their parents are wondering what could they have done different. Somethimes you need to look at their friends

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Since: Apr 07

Colorado Springs, CO

#35 May 12, 2007
Ad Hominem wrote:
Your tune will change when it's *your* son or daughter or other underage, immature family member who does something really risky and dumb and ends up severely injured or dead. People who think like you do now will be telling you your kid deserved what they got, and people who think like those you're currently critical of will be telling you what an awful parent you are for letting them get to be that age and still be making such bad decisions. What will you be saying then?
I wouldn't change my tune, if anyone underage in my family dies by their own hand (not that I have anyone underage in my family) it's their own stupid fault.

My uncle was paralized nearly 10 years ago because he chose to get drunk and hop into a car. None of our family felt pity for him. In fact his first words to my father when he got to the hospital was "I know, I brought this on myself" Granted, he wasn't a kid, but what makes his value as a human any less than that of some punk kid?

He may have been dumb enough to break the law, but he was smart enough to accept it was his own stupidity and illegal actions that brought on the concequences. Everyone should be so smart.
JoJo

Littleton, CO

#36 May 12, 2007
Ad Hominem wrote:
I completely disagree with the other Boulderite, though, who says, referring to the kid's death, "that's what you get for stealing". Perhaps this was hyperbole, but in a civilized society, that's NOT what you get for stealing. Speculate all you want about how that'd stop people from stealing, fact is it won't stop people from being dumb, being overwhelmed by irrational emotions, and making poor decisions, especially people who aren't even adults yet and are especially susceptible to states of mind incompatible with responsible driving.
Your tune will change when it's *your* son or daughter or other underage, immature family member who does something really risky and dumb and ends up severely injured or dead. People who think like you do now will be telling you your kid deserved what they got, and people who think like those you're currently critical of will be telling you what an awful parent you are for letting them get to be that age and still be making such bad decisions. What will you be saying then?
Blah, blah, blah.
JoJo

Littleton, CO

#37 May 12, 2007
He deserved what he got. Too bad all CRIMINALS don't meet the same fate.
robb

Denver, CO

#38 May 12, 2007
nick was a good friend of mine, i cant believe this happened. RIP bud, ill miss you
jester116th

Gothenburg, NE

#39 May 13, 2007
f*** THEM! When I was 17 years old I KNEW right from WRONG, he didn't have to steal that car but he did and the price was his life. I hope it was worth it. People need to be responsable for thier actions, his cost him his life I for one am not sorry that he's DEAD!
BigDee

United States

#40 May 13, 2007
I know, "question the cops". Give me a break. It makes me hate the public....They stole a car, from a woman getting the mail. How scared must she have been? They take off, blow through stop signs and almost hit other motorists...Drive 110 mph then hit stop sticks. Stop sticks put small holes in your tire so they will deflate. This inexperienced young thug/punk probably tried to evade the stop sticks and that is when he rolled. Hitting the stop sticks at 160 mph wouldnt cause a car to roll. Going 100 mph and yanking the wheel to avoid them would make you roll. He was in an Expedition, not exactly a Porsche 911. Blame the kids, blame their parents for not teaching them right and wrong. Blame the girl for partaking in this kind of activity when she could have said "no". Do NOT blame the Police.

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