Baldwin County school tax rally attra...

Baldwin County school tax rally attracts 3,000 in Foley

There are 22 comments on the Alabama Live story from Mar 15, 2010, titled Baldwin County school tax rally attracts 3,000 in Foley. In it, Alabama Live reports that:

An estimated 3,000 students, parents and schools boosters marched through downtown Sunday afternoon in support of the March 23 1-percent sales tax referendum that would pump some $75 million into Baldwin County's financially ailing education system if enacted.

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Give me a Break

Foley, AL

#1 Mar 15, 2010
There are approximately 172,000 citizens of Baldwin County and only 3000 students, parents and schools boosters marched through downtown Sunday afternoon in support of the March 23 1-percent sales tax referendum that would pump some $75 million into Baldwin County's financially ailing education system if enacted.

I guess that leaves approximately 169,000 citizens who don't support the sales tax increase. These people will VOTE NO TO THE BALDWIN COUNTY INCREASED SALES TAX!
FastFred

Foley, AL

#2 Mar 16, 2010
VOTE NO !!
WDG

United States

#3 Mar 16, 2010
While I am a staunch believer in education.(retired teacher of 38 years) I will vote NO to the sales tax increase. It is absurd to give more money to a school board who can't operate within their budget. They knew over a year in advance about proration and went ahead an operated as if, it wasn't going to happen. The attitude seemed to be, "Oh well...we'll just tax the people even more." NO WAY is it going to happen. I have to live within my budget, as do businesses, why is it that Baldwin County Schools seem to think they are exempt from this concept?
You Should Know

Fairhope, AL

#4 Mar 20, 2010
WDG... as a retired school teacher you should know that the schools could not predict the increase number of illegal aliens, the ESL teachers that would have to be hired, free meals all of which the federal government requires, for which same federal government provide little to nothing to the county. Also the great social activist Obama did provide stimulus for education to school districts classified in poverty status and money for technology, not educators. What good is technology such as smart boards, computers and so forth if there are no teachers to use it to educate children. I know, let's take retirement from educators like you who do not give a crap about the children and use it to pay for teachers who do care about the kids they are driven to help. I can promise you that the day you retired the children were probably better off.

And Give me a break, that was only in Foley. Similar rallies have and are scheduled for other cities in Baldwin County so do not think you speak for the other 169000 Baldwin County residence who did not show up for the rally. By the way, if I did not have to work sunday it would have been 3001 since you are counting.
Ignorance is bliss

Fairhope, AL

#5 Mar 20, 2010
Well we can either put money into education or the criminal justice system. Those who say the school budget is not their problem are right, until those children who do not get the education they deserve to help improve them break into your house, steal your car, kill a friend or family member for a few dollars and so on. Education benefits society as a whole. Our fore father's never meant for education to better the individual but for the betterment of society as a whole.
FastFred

Foley, AL

#6 Mar 20, 2010
Me being able to eat and pay my mortgage payment is the most important,we are already taxed to death.
I bet you if the school system was audited they would find all kinds of money spent on items that the money wasn't meant for.They could get the money back from the Teachers that sit in prison and collect a full pay check and still build on there pensions.This call for more money ever yr. for education is a joke!Let them live with in their means just like I do. VOTE NO!!!
FastFred

Foley, AL

#7 Mar 20, 2010
As far as the subject,illegal aliens...this is our Governments fault,not mine.They should all be rounded up and sent packing,i am not obligated to pay for a education for law breakers.The last figure I seen to educate illegals was around 40 Billion a yr.and growing.
guitar picker

Foley, AL

#8 Mar 20, 2010
"the last figure I seen to educate..." A mind is a terrible thing to waste unless it's in BALDWIN COUNTY, ALABAMA - geez, what a great example. Stupid is as stupid does - and Forrest was correct.
pestxx

Milton, FL

#10 Mar 22, 2010
When we stop paying sex offenders for years and the teachers and admin people take a pay cut like everone else in baldwin county thats uneployed I will vote NO....
TEA

Hendersonville, TN

#12 Mar 23, 2010
"Education is not a right" children in Jamaica fish as early as 4am in the morning to bring thier catch to the market for school money, so if the worst thing that can happen here is cutting our football, band and other non essential programs then so be it. I will not fund fiscal Irresponsibility
Detective

Spanish Fort, AL

#13 Mar 23, 2010
Lets see:
School supervisors using their position to influence subordinates to vote for tax.
Action to promote political agenda while being paid by tax dollars.
Threats of job loss and retaliation if tax does not pass. Intemidation of employees.
All of the above are criminal violations of the constitution of the United States.
Real question is will anyone be charged?
Will they carry out their threats should the tax fail?
Wait and see.
guitar picker

Foley, AL

#14 Mar 23, 2010
TEA wrote:
"Education is not a right" children in Jamaica fish as early as 4am in the morning to bring thier catch to the market for school money, so if the worst thing that can happen here is cutting our football, band and other non essential programs then so be it. I will not fund fiscal Irresponsibility
It is required by LAW until a certain age in all States. Jamacia hasn't a damn thing to do with it at all, man. If you voted for ANYTHING AT ALL you have funded fiscal Irresponsibility. Vote out the Board Members come election time, but we all see who's stuck in the middle, and by no fault of their own.
Give me a Break

Foley, AL

#15 Mar 23, 2010
"Vote out the Board Members come election time, but we all see who's stuck in the middle, and by no fault of their own."

I agree about who is stuck in the middle but, sad to say, we taxpayers have to act to correct the situation. As an employee in private enterprize, I had no say as to the bad decisions that my superiors made and if they went out of business, I was out of a job. If the Board of Directors of my company made good decisions, then my company did well and so did I. Unfortunately, us in the middle are always pawns to those higher up. In this case, the electorate has to chop off the head of an inefficient Baldwin County Board of Education so that the body,(those in the middle) have a chance to survive--even if in the short term some might lose their jobs. Just delaying the inevitable by giving an inept Baldwin County Board of Education more of our money to play with will not achieve this objective. Call it "Hard Love" if you choose, but it has to be done or the Baldwin County Board of Education will suck all of us taxpayers dry and then try to find an additional source of income for their excesses. Get ready for the next round that the Board of Education will target--it is your property tax. They can't wait to influence the Baldwin County Commissioners that our property tax rate has to be increased to further their interests. Whether this proposed Baldwin County Sales Tax Increase is passed or not, tomorrow, the Baldwin County Board of Education will be lobbying the Baldwin County Government to increase our property taxes with the proceeds going to the School Administration. I intend to start fighting against this effort just as I have worked hard to defeat the Baldwin County Sales Tax Increase. Stay Tuned for the next battle!
BOO

Stapleton, AL

#16 Mar 23, 2010
If it passes I bet in three years we hear the same out crying that it must be continued or our schools will fail. Mark it down.
Give me a Break

Foley, AL

#17 Mar 24, 2010
It passed because those who were in favor of it went to the polls and those who were not in favor of it did not go to the polls. Now, everyone will be paying more so that the Baldwin County Board of Education can continue to squandor taxpayers money like a drunken sailor on shore leave.
guitar picker

Foley, AL

#18 Mar 24, 2010
Maybe it passed because there are more people willing to sacrifice a little for the education of the youth in Baldwin County than there are those that don't care. If you don't like how it's being managed, I suggest you fire the managers at the next election.
Give me a Break

Foley, AL

#19 Mar 24, 2010
"If you don't like how it's being managed, I suggest you fire the managers at the next election."

I intend on doing just that but, in the meantime and for at least the next 3-years, I will be paying even more money into a bankrupt school system just so that they can hire back personnel that they are getting along just fine now without and provide pre-kindergaarten schooling at $9000/kid to keep parents from having to pay for daycare out of their own pocket. As far as sacrificing "a little", just let me know how much you consider 'a little' before you consider it too much--obviously you don't think 9-10% sales tax meets that criteria.
guitar picker

Foley, AL

#20 Mar 24, 2010
I suggest that you file some of your complaints with former President Bush,whose "No Child Left Behind" strapped school systems all across the country with added requirements, all of which were left unfunded by "W". As for the sales tax - I paid more than that before I moved down here along with more property taxes. The schools there are in better shape now because of it, and partly as a result of such attitudes down here - I'M MOVING THEM BACK. Besides, the City of Foley tacked .01 cent of that 9 cents, and if you shop at Tanger, they added another 1 cent to help the Mall. Did you complain to John K about that? Mismanagement and backroom deals abound down here and the whole damn State is going to "hell in a hand basket w/ the leaders we have from Riley to the local level. There is more than enough room to stop wasting money elsewhere, so there can be enough to fund schools. Don't just focus on the BOE, although they deserve some too. You will have to carry the fight, for I am out of here after this school year.
Give me a Break

Foley, AL

#21 Mar 24, 2010
Don't tell me about Bush--I'm ashamed about voting for him twice, so I'm not without blame. I also come from an area where the taxes were high--all of them; and, the school system stunk. That is why I know that just giving school systems more money to make them happy is no guarantee that education will improve and that is why I voted "NO" to the BALDWIN COUNTY INCREASED SALES TAX. Rather than using this windfall prudently, they will just pi#% it away and at the same time be lobbying Baldwin County Commissioners to increase the tax rate on our property to pick-up when the sales tax increase expires--if it does!
Give me a Break

Foley, AL

#22 Mar 25, 2010
I don't know where you can move and find a good school system. Having lived in several areas, I find all school systems have the same things in common: Never have enough money, never have enough teachers, never have enough personnel, always have a Board of Education that lobbies for more taxpayer money, always pays top School Administrators rediculously high salaries and can't squeeze-in enough cubicles for more and more employees in the Administration Building, always have the latest and best office equipment in the Central Office, let the teachers Union have their way on everything, always keep a few portable classrooms at a school or two to cry to the taxpayers why they need for money, always build gold-plated schools rather than good utilitarian schools, always fight against Charter Schools and Private Schools for fear of losing influence and on and on. Believe me, you might leave me with the fight in Baldwin County but you just might have to take up this same fight wherever you move--if not, write back and let everyone know that there is an effective and economically frugal school system somewhere in this Country. My bet is that we won't be hearing from you any time soon!

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