Hangout Headliners Bringing them to the Beach

Feb 13, 2013 Full story: WKRG-TV Mobile 20

Music fans have been waiting for this for almost a year. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers along with the family of rockers Kings of Leon are two of the headliners for this year's Hangout Music Festival that so far includes almost 50 artists.

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rudy

Foley, AL

#1 Feb 13, 2013
sex drugs rock n roll i think i'll bring the family to the beach for this i guess some extra cash is worth it for some too bad we were a special place to visit
indiana boy

United States

#2 Feb 14, 2013
Quit complaining! I'm sure the extra income for the city is needed and I can bet that a senior citizens bingo nationals wouldn't bring near the income! So pack you me bags for the week and take your family to DisneyWorld! Geeze!
Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#3 Feb 15, 2013
"Quit complaining! I'm sure the extra income for the city is needed"

Not. Gulf Shores is just like any other city. They will sell their soul for the buck and that is just what they are doing by allowing a bunch of hop-heads to descend on them like a hoard of locusts. I wonder if Gulf Shores knows how many people will not come here during this Woodstock clone and subtracts that loss of revenue from the proceeds of the music festival. Of course this event will continue until Gulf Shores decides that the cost of cleaning up the beach, sweeping up empty beer cans and broken bottles, arresting those using drugs, aggravating locals with unimaginable traffic jams, removing cars from roads after drunken accidents and paying overtime to their policemen, plus the negative impact this event produces in the eyes of many vacationing families who liked the peace and tranquility that they couldn't get any longer in places like Daytona during Bike Week.
indiana boy

United States

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Bwahahaha! Drunk stoners spend money! It's a fact. Look how big if a tourist attraction PCB has become, not because its just a place to relax. I'm sure that's not the reason it's the number 7 spot for spring breakers in 2012. Like I said, locals know its coming so pre plan around it. You live in a fricken tourist city for gods sake. Don't like it? Move! If you want peace and quiet, make your way down ft Morgan to the locals spots. The mess provides work for people, the traffic comes hand and hand with tourist, the accidents happen in that highly populated enclosed area. Maybe the city should improve their road structure.
N8ive

Foley, AL

#5 Mar 2, 2013
There is no benefit to the locals. The beach is trashed, the road blocked for days, drunks on the road, garbage in the streets, increase in crime, vomiting on the sidewalks, urinating in the sand, public drug use.

Saul Zislin who owns the Hangout and the hideous surrounding tourist traps hire seasonal workers shipped in from Easter Europe so it is a myth that there are jobs created. He would never live here, it is too shabby for his tastes.

Learn your lessons well.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#6 Mar 6, 2013
N8ive wrote:
There is no benefit to the locals.
The City Of Gulf Shores collects: business licenses, beer taxes, consumer use taxes, lodging taxes, motor fuel taxes,rental/lease taxes, sales taxes, sellers use taxes,tobacco taxes, and wine taxes. So if the local sand fleas are whining about not getting any benefits from a sellout festival,why don't they find out where all this money is going.
crimestoppers

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Mar 6, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>The City Of Gulf Shores collects: business licenses, beer taxes, consumer use taxes, lodging taxes, motor fuel taxes,rental/lease taxes, sales taxes, sellers use taxes,tobacco taxes, and wine taxes. So if the local sand fleas are whining about not getting any benefits from a sellout festival,why don't they find out where all this money is going.
Exactly!(Golfer clap from behind my computer screen)
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#8 Mar 9, 2013
N8ive wrote:
There is no benefit to the locals.
What you may actually find is that even though lots of money comes in during special weekends and the tourist season,that money is spent 24/7/365 keeping up the required municipal services available whether the place is booked solid or a ghost town. How many beers do think it would take to collect enough city tax to replace one firetruck at today's costs? A police car with all the computer equipment? Street equipment? Insurance? City workers? Think about it.
crimestoppers

United States

#9 Mar 9, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>What you may actually find is that even though lots of money comes in during special weekends and the tourist season,that money is spent 24/7/365 keeping up the required municipal services available whether the place is booked solid or a ghost town. How many beers do think it would take to collect enough city tax to replace one firetruck at today's costs? A police car with all the computer equipment? Street equipment? Insurance? City workers? Think about it.
Well considering that taxes collected off of alcohol sales are such a minor percentage of the specified funds in which assist in paying for those items, I don't think that's a logical question. Funding is given at a state level to county and then from county it is dispersed as they see fit. City taxes only add to it and are predetermined as to where that money will be put a year in the rears. The city will always be at the mercy of the county which is at mercy of the state. We all know the governor will always take care if Baldwin county. Tourism is basically a cash cow for the state and is rewarded as such. Enough with economics... Where's the party at for spring break?!
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#10 Mar 10, 2013
crimestoppers wrote:
<quoted text>
Well considering that taxes collected off of alcohol sales are such a minor percentage of the specified funds in which assist in paying for those items, I don't think that's a logical question. Funding is given at a state level to county and then from county it is dispersed as they see fit. City taxes only add to it and are predetermined as to where that money will be put a year in the rears. The city will always be at the mercy of the county which is at mercy of the state. We all know the governor will always take care if Baldwin county. Tourism is basically a cash cow for the state and is rewarded as such. Enough with economics... Where's the party at for spring break?!
Liquor taxes add to the city money. Overall sales tax helps pay the way but as more people turn their backs on local merchants and buy via internet sales which charge no sales taxes,that money is even more important. All states are looking at the idea of taxing internet sales but the wheels turn slowly.
crimestoppers

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Mar 10, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Liquor taxes add to the city money. Overall sales tax helps pay the way but as more people turn their backs on local merchants and buy via internet sales which charge no sales taxes,that money is even more important. All states are looking at the idea of taxing internet sales but the wheels turn slowly.
They tax Internet sales here in Indiana. I honestly haven't seen a difference in spending or anything economical yet and it's been over a year.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#12 Mar 11, 2013
crimestoppers wrote:
<quoted text>
They tax Internet sales here in Indiana. I honestly haven't seen a difference in spending or anything economical yet and it's been over a year.
There was a news short on last week about some of the big internet suppliers starting to build trial "brick and mortor" stores in the larger cities because they realize that if all states start taxing, it would cut into their sales having to compete with the big box electronic stores. It will also cut into UPS,USPS and Fed-EX residential shipments because store shipments would be delivered on trailer trucks.
Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#13 Mar 12, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>The City Of Gulf Shores collects: business licenses, beer taxes, consumer use taxes, lodging taxes, motor fuel taxes,rental/lease taxes, sales taxes, sellers use taxes,tobacco taxes, and wine taxes. So if the local sand fleas are whining about not getting any benefits from a sellout festival,why don't they find out where all this money is going.
If the local sand fleas are getting so much money from tourists then we should not have to pay any taxes. As it is, we are probably paying as much in taxes as most cities in the United States that do not accrue tax revenues from vacationers--so where is that money going?
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#14 Mar 13, 2013
Give Me a Break wrote:
<quoted text>
If the local sand fleas are getting so much money from tourists then we should not have to pay any taxes. As it is, we are probably paying as much in taxes as most cities in the United States that do not accrue tax revenues from vacationers--so where is that money going?
The revenues and expenditures are PUBLIC information. Any city or county that you have a question about will have a full disclosure sheet available. It usually runs in the local paper once a year too.
Give Me a Break

Foley, AL

#15 Mar 13, 2013
Yes, I know that. My point is that lots of the tourist's money is going back into amenities that support the influx of tourists such as more police, more beach cleanup, more EMS services, more infrastructure to accommodate new hotels and condos while the locals have to put up with increased traffic, crazy Spring Breakers, waiting lines in restaurants and crowded stores and have to pay a 10% sales tax on everything including food all year while the tourists only have to suffer that high sales tax for a week or two. Yes, I know that if I don't like it I can move elsewhere but that is not the point either. What I'm saying is that all of the revenue being brought into the area does very little to improve the life of year-around citizens even though the powers that be always want to try to convince the locals that more and more tourists are good for the economy and never say just how it benefits locals.
pics to prove it

Indianapolis, IN

#16 Mar 13, 2013
Give Me a Break wrote:
Yes, I know that. My point is that lots of the tourist's money is going back into amenities that support the influx of tourists such as more police, more beach cleanup, more EMS services, more infrastructure to accommodate new hotels and condos while the locals have to put up with increased traffic, crazy Spring Breakers, waiting lines in restaurants and crowded stores and have to pay a 10% sales tax on everything including food all year while the tourists only have to suffer that high sales tax for a week or two. Yes, I know that if I don't like it I can move elsewhere but that is not the point either. What I'm saying is that all of the revenue being brought into the area does very little to improve the life of year-around citizens even though the powers that be always want to try to convince the locals that more and more tourists are good for the economy and never say just how it benefits locals.
You live in a tourist town... Do you know that?
iamangttia

Foley, AL

#17 Mar 13, 2013
pics to prove it wrote:
<quoted text>
You live in a tourist town... Do you know that?
I have already acknowledged that I know that--I'm not so stupid not to know it but, thanks for giving me the 'heads-up' anyway.
pics to prove it

United States

#18 Mar 13, 2013
iamangttia wrote:
<quoted text>I have already acknowledged that I know that--I'm not so stupid not to know it but, thanks for giving me the 'heads-up' anyway.
Then why would you expect any more of a tranquil situation or any other economical plan of action?
iamangttia

Foley, AL

#19 Mar 13, 2013
pics to prove it wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why would you expect any more of a tranquil situation or any other economical plan of action?
I don't expect it because governments always spend as much as they can get and always need more growth to get even more money. This is the case everywhere and not just in a tourist area. I do live in a tranquil area even though it is in a tourist area. I'm just referring to problems that constant growth brings about which does not benefit locals whether here or elsewhere.
pics to prove it

United States

#20 Mar 13, 2013
iamangttia wrote:
<quoted text>I don't expect it because governments always spend as much as they can get and always need more growth to get even more money. This is the case everywhere and not just in a tourist area. I do live in a tranquil area even though it is in a tourist area. I'm just referring to problems that constant growth brings about which does not benefit locals whether here or elsewhere.
It's called america

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