Police Shoot 2 in "Case of Mistaken" ID

Feb 7, 2013 Full story: NBC Miami 22

Police shot at blue truck, seen in the distance, in on Thursday, Feb. 7, 2013, in Torrance, wounding two occupants, in a case of mistaken identity in a search for an ex-LAPD officer who went on a deadly rampage.

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wow

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#1 Feb 7, 2013
The problem with LAPD - shoot first. Chief Beck did not even apologize for the shooting of these innocent women. His statement actually excused the officers actions - Mistaken identity - BS!!! Once again LAPD does whatever they need to do to protect their own. Beck wants everyone to think that the Manifesto is just rambling but LAPD's actions this morning proved that perhaps Dorner's claims are valid.
LA Guy

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Feb 7, 2013
wow wrote:
The problem with LAPD - shoot first. Chief Beck did not even apologize for the shooting of these innocent women. His statement actually excused the officers actions - Mistaken identity
Thought the same, Chief Beck's statement was weak...mistaken identity will no fly in this case...two Asian women delivery papers
Anonymous

Whittier, CA

#3 Feb 7, 2013
If mistaken identity is a good defense, they shouldn't arrest gangbangers who accidentally shoot the wrong person!

Until they arrest and charge the cops responsible for the Torrance shootings with ATTEMPTED MURDER, I will be rooting for Dorner to kill a few more pigs!!

Them not charging anyone only proves his allegations! When you're a cop, you can do whatever the f you want and nothing will happen.

Die pigs!!
Robert Gregory

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Feb 7, 2013
So now we have a crazed officer on a shooting rampage, and panicked officers shooting 3 innocent newspaper delivery ladies, without any identification or warning. We need to be responsible for our own protection. We can't disarm ourselves, or call our schools safe, "gun -free" zones and pretend that the law will keep us from harm.
guns for everyone

Elizabethtown, KY

#5 Feb 8, 2013
this entire story is the perfect example of why the police and the military should NOT be the only ones with scary looking "assault weapons."
Let the lawsuits begin

United States

#6 Feb 8, 2013
Ahhh yes the overfunded sideshow and public welfare excuse for losers... a.k.a. The Cult Of Public Safety" strikes again! Now they are out to be judge, jury and executioner these cars don't even look the same. They just want the crazy cop with valid grudges dead and played straight into the guy's game.

Way to go ace! I hope they sue these pathetic excuses for cops straight out of jobs no excuses this time either or Anonymous might have to drop in and add to the festivities on this!

People are sick and fed up with unnacountable pretend police cowards hiding and murdering from behind color of law.
What this crazy cop did is wrong but few people will argue he had one hell of a reason to snap. He's up against the Thin Blue Line of Phoneys and pretend heroes who demand most of the tax bases in return for unaccountability and excuses.

If these cops shot up my family they'd need a new swat team and swat costumes anyway. Real smart boys enjoy the lawsuits and "credit".

They have a warning about these kinds of impulsive pretenders and gloryhounds in the specialties for a reason!

Hopefully the dummies will protect the dead cop's funerals that's probably where "Mr. Asymetrical" thinks he'll strike next if he's organized.
Harbor Resident

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#7 Feb 8, 2013
LAPD are thugs. Unfortunately, I would probably feel safer if Dorner knocked at my door and would most likely let him in than law enforcement.
I called 911 because a officer was harrassing me at my home. Ten officers showed up and watched this officer assault me and did NOTHING to intervene. Of course no charges were filed because I did nothing wrong. I filed a report with internal affairs - what a joke! Even though I had a photo and name of the cop, internal affairs wanted me to identify the cop from multiple 6 packs of photos. The photos appeared to be photos taken when the officer joined the force so it was impossible to mmatch my photo with the 6-packs. The entire process was a joke! I believe everything Dorner is claiming.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#8 Feb 8, 2013
Harbor Resident wrote:
LAPD are thugs. Unfortunately, I would probably feel safer if Dorner knocked at my door and would most likely let him in than law enforcement.
I called 911 because a officer was harrassing me at my home. Ten officers showed up and watched this officer assault me and did NOTHING to intervene. Of course no charges were filed because I did nothing wrong. I filed a report with internal affairs - what a joke! Even though I had a photo and name of the cop, internal affairs wanted me to identify the cop from multiple 6 packs of photos. The photos appeared to be photos taken when the officer joined the force so it was impossible to mmatch my photo with the 6-packs. The entire process was a joke! I believe everything Dorner is claiming.
That's why I don't give a damn when a pig gets whacked!(or a member of his family)

A lot of whackjobs think it's only gangbanger and other career criminals who hate them. They couldn't be more wrong.

I've been fortunate not to have had them even try physical violence. They've only threatened it with me on several occasions. But then again, I'm as big or bigger than most of them, so they know it would take more than one. They're just pussies with a badge & gun.

I'm glad to hear you at least survived your experience. You know darn well they could have easily claimed you went for one of their weapons and were justified in shooting you.

Die pigs!! GO DORNER!!
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#9 Feb 8, 2013
gangbangers
San Pedro Res

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Feb 8, 2013
The two hispanic ladies deliverying newspapers were a mother and daughter team, short of stature (5 ft tall).. the mother was in her seventies.
Also, a different make and model of truck.

This shooting by highly trained officers is unexecuseable, even under these circumstances. Wanton wrecklessness and arrogance. Do they really think that they can explain this away.

Maximum suspensions and they are damn lucky they will not be facing criminal charges. Civil sanctions against the City in the range of tens of millions of dollars.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#11 Feb 8, 2013
San Pedro Res wrote:
Do they really think that they can explain this away.
You really think they're going to have to?! You must be high!

They will not be charged and the occupants in both trucks will be set for life!

ALL officers who shot at those trucks should at least lose their pensions!

GO DORNER!! After what those Torrance cops did, I hope he kills a few more!
mee

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Feb 9, 2013
well,,d only people shooting are p-i-g-z......!!! why is *el negrito*so worry about taking guns away from us??it seemz that the only people shooting are those dummazz p-i-g-z ....and he hands them to em.....!!!.?from Dorner to da other pendejoz..........I m real sorry for the families involve,,,ur in my prayers...
San Pedro Res

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Feb 9, 2013
One can only imagine the pain and terror these two ladies went through. They will be set fiacially and cetainly no longer deliverying papers. Thank
God they survived, same with the male driver of the other vehicle.

Seriously, thought our police were smarter, better trained and not prone to panic. We have given our police a wide degree of latitude and understanding when they use their firearms, but after these incidents a new awareness is in order.

How did Dorner ever get through the screening process. Why was he not fired when he chocked the other cop(s) in the van who made derogatory racial remarks. Regardless of the circumstances, battery on an employee, is a firing offense.

So many red flags on Dorner, but they kept him on the force way too long. Dorner is evil personified. My heart goes out to the couple killed in Irvine and the Riverside police officer.
Anonymous

Pico Rivera, CA

#14 Feb 9, 2013
San Pedro Res wrote:
Seriously, thought our police were smarter, better trained and not prone to panic. We have given our police a wide degree of latitude and understanding when they use their firearms, but after these incidents a new awareness is in order.
Many of us are not surprised. We have posted our knowledge about their corrupt and gangbanger behavior for years. Glad to have you join the ranks of the well informed.

Believe it or not, there will still be people stupid enough to think the bad ones are just a "few bad apples". I laugh at anyone who's naive enough to believe cops are the good guys. They're nothing but paid, legal gangbangers.
San Pedro Res

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Feb 9, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Many of us are not surprised. We have posted our knowledge about their corrupt and gangbanger behavior for years. Glad to have you join the ranks of the well informed.
Believe it or not, there will still be people stupid enough to think the bad ones are just a "few bad apples". I laugh at anyone who's naive enough to believe cops are the good guys. They're nothing but paid, legal gangbangers.
LA Times front page article today, interview with Chief Beck.
Chief Beck playing cagey as to if any orders were given to the women in the truck, but did indicate that if there had been verbal orders called out, he believes the women did not hear them. He goes on to claim that he is still waiting for more details on this matter. He further goes onto some diversion about the truck speeding up in the direction of officers after the first volley hit it...more stuff about the cops being under incredible anxiety while guarding the residence and something vaque about them perhaps needinbg more training. Chief Beck's lack of candor was obvious. The high anxiety and more training scenario will not work. These lame talking points are an insult to the public. LA's former Chief Bratton was much more of a straight talker.

A photo of the truck shot up was published with the article. The rear of the truck looked like Swiss Cheese, with all of those bullet holes and the women hit, no wonder the truck sped up. Neighbors homes and cars also hit. How many damn rounds in this wild shooting spree were shot off. No damn discilipline at all, by these highly trained cops (LAPD) who constantly brag about being the best and brightess in the world. It was more like a arrogant wanton disregard for the the safety of the neighborhood.

Torrance PD also is in need of some serious oversight and scrutiny, although I must admit they are diligent in keeping the Torrance safe. Call them and they show up within a few minutes, not the case in Los Angeles, slow slow and slower and maybe a no show.
Anonymous

Whittier, CA

#16 Feb 9, 2013
Chris 3 LAPD-1,000's

But he's the bad guy. Yeah, right!!

GO, CHRIS!! KILL MORE OF THOSE SCUMBAGS!!
harbor resident

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#17 Feb 10, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad to hear you at least survived your experience. You know darn well they could have easily claimed you went for one of their weapons and were justified in shooting you.
Die pigs!! GO DORNER!!
Actually if I was shot I would have been turned over to the paramedics and wouldn't have been subjected to the LAPD's continued abuse (physical, verbal and mental). According to the DA, somebody with the same name had a rap sheet. I was 40 years old with absolutely no criminal record and because I'm caucasion and the assaulting officer was caucasian it was almost impossible to find representation. Several law firms told me that if I was any other race they would take my case, but because I was white they wouldn't make enough money.
San Pedro Res

Los Angeles, CA

#18 Feb 10, 2013
Morning news (Chn 7)reporting that Chief Beck has met with the two women and that a donor is giving them a similar truck ... how nice him ... oh, they will be able to buy a whole fleet of new trucks and houses in Beverly Hill

Wonder if Chief Beck mentioned to them that his officers may be in need of some extra training after this minor incident or mentioned that they sped up after getting hit by the first volly .. He just has a nice folksy way about handling this, now does'nt he

The public needs some straight talk from him and details as to exactly what happened, he must know by now. Like was there any attempt to illuminate the vehicle or orders given. Why his cops cannot tell the difference between short women in a different make and model of truck and the hulking Dorner. We already know they were deliverying newspapers at 5:15AM, driving slow, and that the cops were guarding a home of another cop.
joey

Livonia, LA

#19 Feb 10, 2013
San Pedro Res wrote:
One can only imagine the pain and terror these two ladies went through. They will be set fiacially and cetainly no longer deliverying papers. Thank
God they survived, same with the male driver of the other vehicle.
Seriously, thought our police were smarter, better trained and not prone to panic. We have given our police a wide degree of latitude and understanding when they use their firearms, but after these incidents a new awareness is in order.
How did Dorner ever get through the screening process. Why was he not fired when he chocked the other cop(s) in the van who made derogatory racial remarks. Regardless of the circumstances, battery on an employee, is a firing offense.
So many red flags on Dorner, but they kept him on the force way too long. Dorner is evil personified. My heart goes out to the couple killed in Irvine and the Riverside police officer.
sounds the same way the military treated islamist hasan at fort hood?they ignored all red flags on him and promoted him?politically correct got 13 soldiers killed!
San Pedro Res

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Feb 10, 2013
joey wrote:
<quoted text>sounds the same way the military treated islamist hasan at fort hood?they ignored all red flags on him and promoted him?politically correct got 13 soldiers killed!
They were afraid to fire him, until he messed with a Hispanic Female Sgt, calling her out as a liar and kept on making a fool of himself .. the choking incident of other cops alone would have got a white guy fired, even if it was in response to a brother calling him a cracker.

Now they have a One Million Dollar reward for his arrest and conviction. More PC, throwing in the conviction clause...why not just Dead or Alive.

Now the LAPD is swarminhg a Lowe's store in the San Fernando Valley of LA .. not lettihg anyone out ... doubt if he was out shopping.

Chief Beck re-opening the inquiry into his firing, in part not to alienate the minority community...yes, this is the reason, according to news reports

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