Raytheon forbids employees to access ...

Raytheon forbids employees to access WikiLeaks website

There are 27 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Dec 2, 2010, titled Raytheon forbids employees to access WikiLeaks website. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Military contractor Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems has informed employees in El Segundo that they are forbidden to access the controversial whistle-blower website WikiLeaks either on company or personal computers.

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Whatever

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Dec 2, 2010
What is this a communist Country? What we log onto on our personnal computers is no ones business?!

Since: Jun 08

Reseda, CA

#2 Dec 2, 2010
when did WikiLeaks become a whistle blowers website?
SP Thinker

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#3 Dec 2, 2010
I'm pretty sure there are some constitutional issues implicated here.

You can restrict access via work computers - but not personally.
anonymous

United States

#4 Dec 2, 2010
This is big business at its worst.
Pedro

Glendale, CA

#5 Dec 2, 2010
Makes. No. Sense.
video

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Dec 2, 2010
for those of you who might not have visited wikileaks, and form your opinion based on all the negative comments in the media...you really should view the video collateral murder.
http://collateralmurder.com/en/index.html
If our government is allowed to behave like terrorists, while pretending we are the good guys hunting terrorists, then apparently that is what they will do.
These so called wars were started based on lies, and nothing has changed.
Now are government thinks the solution is jailing those who discuss the truth.
If we all put our heads in the sand, and allow our government to continue with its dishonest murdering ways, what good will come from that.

Its disgusting what is going on, and that the people think things are ok, since its not happening in out country. If you dont know, you need to investigate for yourself.
Wikileaks is not the bad guy in this situation at all.
Murdering civilians is not OK, neither is acting like it doesnt happen. We should all want to know when this is happening. Punishing the reporter, is not the solution. Cease the criminal behavior, and the truth wont be so painful.
Mitch

United States

#7 Dec 2, 2010
This is true for every defense and support contractor across the nation...its filtering down from the DoD.
WakeUpAmerica

Redondo Beach, CA

#8 Dec 3, 2010
So now business wants to control what employees can view at home on their personal time and machine?

Is this 2010 or 1984?

Aside from that the policy is idiotic. All this information is now on the web and out in the public. Think about this for moment, a Raytheon worker cannot read it but the homeless guy at the library can?

I read a few of the cables in question and can assure you they were boring and a waste of my time. Much to do about nothing.

Lastly given all the money we spend on defense, intel, etc. how come we have not found/killed bin Laden? How did we screw up WMDs in Iraq? Why can't we win in Afghanistan after 10yrs? Why is al Queda still a thorn? Maybe we should concentrate on these things instead of worrying about a diplomatic cable asserting Putin is an "Alpha Dog".

If so many young soldier lives were not cut short in the last 10yrs this would all be very amusing.
To Pedro in LA

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Dec 3, 2010
Pedro wrote:
Makes. No. Sense.
Of course it doesn't. But "Might is right...."!
Salty Sailor

United States

#12 Dec 3, 2010
I know for a fact that if someone works for any defense contractor or the DOD, and the job is highly classified, the phone"s" will be tapped and the computers at home also will be monitored.

the only way out is to visit a friend of a friend and us their internet for viewing.

I worked for a defense contractor and when I left, I had to sign an agreement that anything I designed or invented in the field I was in for 2 years, would become the contractors property.
sad thing it was on government property and the contractor would claim it as their design by default.
PDR

Simi Valley, CA

#13 Dec 3, 2010
Whatever wrote:
What is this a communist Country?
No. It's what is often refereed to as a corporatist nation. Of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations.

They're "people" too, you know.
VICB3

Youngsville, NC

#16 Dec 3, 2010
They're kidding right? I mean, what are they gonna' do? Send a bunch of company detectives over to your house to see what you've been looking at? Sieze your smart phone? Does Raytheon have a modern day version of Ford's 'Social Department'?(Look it up.)

This is nothinig more than typical aerospace bureaucratic butt covering. Some mindless drone sits in their little cubicle and writes up a memo in a effort to justify their mind numbing job to the higher ups. The higher ups in turn can tell their customer - pretty much their sole customer, and that's the real problem here - that yes indeed they've done something. And then they can all go home and drink themselves insensate in front of the TV.

Idiots.

Just a thought.

VicB3
Dispassionate Observer

Redondo Beach, CA

#17 Dec 3, 2010
For what it's worth...

Some of the information on wikileaks may be considered classified or is classified (ie secret or top secret or whatever the State Department uses).

If classified information is run through an unclassified network (ie downloading/reading material) ostensibly, the network needs to be sanitized which is a huge expense to do.

Classified information being released in the public domain does not change its classification.
Anonymous

United States

#18 Dec 3, 2010
This is the best comment on this thread.
WakeUpAmerica wrote:
So now business wants to control what employees can view at home on their personal time and machine?
Is this 2010 or 1984?
Aside from that the policy is idiotic. All this information is now on the web and out in the public. Think about this for moment, a Raytheon worker cannot read it but the homeless guy at the library can?
I read a few of the cables in question and can assure you they were boring and a waste of my time. Much to do about nothing.
Lastly given all the money we spend on defense, intel, etc. how come we have not found/killed bin Laden? How did we screw up WMDs in Iraq? Why can't we win in Afghanistan after 10yrs? Why is al Queda still a thorn? Maybe we should concentrate on these things instead of worrying about a diplomatic cable asserting Putin is an "Alpha Dog".
If so many young soldier lives were not cut short in the last 10yrs this would all be very amusing.
Turtle

Manhattan Beach, CA

#20 Dec 3, 2010
Glad I don't work for this company, trying to control people at home is just wrong.
SB CA

Carson, CA

#21 Dec 3, 2010
What if their family members access it from home, is that grounds for termination?

Next thing you know the company will be setting up cameras and a biometric retina eye scanner for home internet access.
Here we go again

Canyon Country, CA

#22 Dec 3, 2010
you open up the paper now and all of the stories are about government control. The new pay for mileage proposals in California for auto insurance....if you allow them to attach a device to your car. I already have a smart electric meter attached to my house which tells them exactly what I'm doing. They have access to my medical records which tells them exactly how I'm feeling. They have access to my banking and charge card records so they know exactly what I'm spending. If the food safety act passes, they will know exactly what I'm eating. What am I leaving out here?
Gladiator of Torrance

Manhattan Beach, CA

#23 Dec 3, 2010
The breach of company classified material is every aerospace contractors nightmare because they knowingly know the risks ahead of time when giving approval to have computer to access the world. The fault lays heavy within the government contract signed. Sorry no dice to the USC professor who said the only way the U.S. government can stop WikiLeaks from releasing classified documents is to have jurisdiction over the website and to convince a judge that the website harms national security. In rebuttal entire mess boils down to policies and procedures fact is when any government contractor makes the decision to give computer access to its employees and onsite vendors to access the World Wide Web they set themselves up to already having knowledge and yes the user will visit, read and print out info not related to company business good example wiki leak. The breach of company or government classified material is everyones nightmare because someone signed the approval to access.
Blood for Heroin

Los Angeles, CA

#25 Dec 3, 2010
"After the Taliban had almost eradicated opium from Afghanistan and replaced it with wheat, etc., the Occupying forces have managed to ensure a bumper crop...."

And you thought we were there to bring peace, security, freedom to the people, we invaded Afghanistan for two reasons only:

1)To build a Oil Pipe Line
2)To take control of the drug trade

"As you will read under the religious fanatic’s "The Taliban" they went around destroying the crops because it’s against their Islamic religion."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/39344809/The-Truth-...

Introduction

Chapter 1 – U.S. Special Forces' opium smuggling in Afghanistan draws ire of Aga Khan

Chapter 2 – Afghanistan Five Years Later: Buildings Down, Heroin Up

Chapter 3 – Who benefits from the Afghan Opium Trade?

Conclusion
Here we go again wrote:
you open up the paper now and all of the stories are about government control. The new pay for mileage proposals in California for auto insurance....if you allow them to attach a device to your car. I already have a smart electric meter attached to my house which tells them exactly what I'm doing. They have access to my medical records which tells them exactly how I'm feeling. They have access to my banking and charge card records so they know exactly what I'm spending. If the food safety act passes, they will know exactly what I'm eating. What am I leaving out here?
Heartbroken

Los Angeles, CA

#26 Dec 3, 2010
video wrote:
for those of you who might not have visited wikileaks, and form your opinion based on all the negative comments in the media...you really should view the video collateral murder.
http://collateralmurder.com/en/index.html
If our government is allowed to behave like terrorists, while pretending we are the good guys hunting terrorists, then apparently that is what they will do.
These so called wars were started based on lies, and nothing has changed.
Now are government thinks the solution is jailing those who discuss the truth.
If we all put our heads in the sand, and allow our government to continue with its dishonest murdering ways, what good will come from that.
Its disgusting what is going on, and that the people think things are ok, since its not happening in out country. If you dont know, you need to investigate for yourself.
Wikileaks is not the bad guy in this situation at all.
Murdering civilians is not OK, neither is acting like it doesnt happen. We should all want to know when this is happening. Punishing the reporter, is not the solution. Cease the criminal behavior, and the truth wont be so painful.
I watched the video. Its the worst thing I have ever seen. I cried the whole time. I am so ashamed to be a part of this Country at this moment. I feel like an idiot for "putting my head in the sand" so I can worry about more important things like "should i go to the Laker/Miami Heat game on xmas day?" Hmmmmm....

Everyone should watch this video before commenting on wikileaks. Wikileaks is doing the right thing by exposing these tragedies.

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