El Segundo uses employee, benefit concessions to pass budget

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El Segundo leaders Tuesday night approved a budget for the upcoming fiscal year that relies heavily on city employee salary and benefit concessions to fill a multimillion-dollar gap in the general fund. Read more
Sad

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Sep 22, 2010
This whole ordeal could've been avoided. If Hawthorne can avoid layoffs there should be no reason why El Segundo can't either.
Thelma Lou

United States

#3 Sep 22, 2010
Sad wrote:
This whole ordeal could've been avoided. If Hawthorne can avoid layoffs there should be no reason why El Segundo can't either.
Hawthorne avoided layoffs by securing employee groups concessions, tightening department spending, reorganization (elimination of jobs), bond restructure, etc. Reserves were NOT touched. Come on Mayberry, let's get creative.
Local who works south

Irvine, CA

#4 Sep 23, 2010
Mr Ley, seems like a good employee and caught between the city and union who watch too many Norma Rae movies. Sitting down rationally with facts of the current situation would seem to eliminate the need to mangle and fire city staff that are not part of the bigger issue. It's funny because the staff that usually lose their jobs are also the ones doing strong service to our community and who salary is not enough to swing our town back from the depths of deficit. It can not be same ol' same ol' but bodies lost just means less people to give us the unique service that makes El Segundo El Segundo!
Private

Lakewood, CA

#5 Sep 23, 2010
Thelma Lou, why is it that you refer to El Segundo as "Mayberry"? Is it the quaint appearance of a small town? Is it that people know each other and actually wave as you drive by? Maybe, it's because you can walk the streets at any and all hours, day or night, without fear of being assaulted or robbed? Or accosted by homeless people who constantly and aggressively ask for money? Who and how do you think that "Mayberry" can be "Mayberry" when areas that aren't so "Mayberry" are less than a block away? Did you know that there is a hotel across the street (On Aviation Boulevard) from your "Mayberry" that houses sex registrants and recently paroled (For all types of crimes) men and women? The State of California's Department of Corrections pays for it. Actually, you pay for it (That's a whole different point). You, as a resident of "Mayberry, or an employee of one of the many businesses in El Segundo,share a luxury that many cities in Los Angeles County to do not have: An attentive, caring, highly trained and educated police force dedicated to making your "Mayberry" an actual "Mayberry"! In law enforcement, you get what you pay for. How can you or anybody else talk about employee concessions when the majority of city employees can't afford to enjoy the luxury of living in your "Mayberry", yet these same dedicated employees work passionately and tirelessly to allow you the ability to walk carelessly down Main Street at any given time. Creativity is good, less government spending is better, responsibility and accountibility in government is the best. Please think about that the next time you go for a stroll at eight o'clock at night.
Johnny C

Long Beach, CA

#6 Sep 23, 2010
Dear private ... "You, as a resident of "Mayberry, or an employee of one of the many businesses in El Segundo,share a luxury that many cities in Los Angeles County to do not have: An attentive, caring, highly trained and educated police force dedicated to making your "Mayberry" an actual "Mayberry"! In law enforcement, you get what you pay for."

I'll bet that Andy in Mayberry did not get $450K last year like the El Segundo Police Chief. Perhaps El Segundo's "Mayberry" should really be called "Utopia".

The Police and Fire personnel get way too much money and their pensions are going to continue to kill the budget for years to come.

The one dissenter had it right ... you should have offloaded the Fire Department to the county. At least this way "Mayberry" could keep more of their special services and folks would not be layed off.

Darn fools in the council!
Al Fansome

United States

#7 Sep 23, 2010
Listen to Don Brann. He knows what he's talking about. He kept the Wiseburn School District in sound financial shape. Too bad we lost him to a City Council that doesn't have a clue.
Private

Moorpark, CA

#8 Sep 23, 2010
Johnny C,

I agree that the former police chief for the El Segundo Police Department was well over paid, but that only speaks to those in management. The line level officers are not over paid. The problem lies with those in the city government and within the city management that look out for each other. The ones that take too much with little regard for those that work the streets and with the citizens of the communities they swore to protect. The "good ol' boys club" as one might say. The general public vilifies those in uniform, believing the ridiculous idea that your every day average street officer is overpaid. In order to be competitive in the law enforcement community, departments and cities must provide adequate compensation for it's officers, otherwise, what is the incentive? Why work shift work, or holidays, walk down dark alleys looking for those people the general public cross the street to avoid, live with the possibility of not going home to see your family, walk the fine line of liability, and generally deal with the problems that society has to offer? It is far from a "Utopia" as you say. If you can look at the two officers that were shot while trying to protect movie going patrons in the eyes and tell them that they are over paid, well, all I can say is, put the uniform on and give it a shot for less pay and benefits. An officers job is not for everyone. The line level officers that wear the uniform for ESPD are highly educated and extremely well trained. They take on the responsibility of keeping the city safe and free from the criminal element. While I cannot justify what the chief of police is paid, I can say that one should keep it in perspective. Know there is a difference between those that wear the stars and bars and those that are slick sleeved and are in the trenches everyday.
Snoop Dawg

Huntington Beach, CA

#9 Sep 24, 2010
Johnny C wrote:
Dear private ... "You, as a resident of "Mayberry, or an employee of one of the many businesses in El Segundo,share a luxury that many cities in Los Angeles County to do not have: An attentive, caring, highly trained and educated police force dedicated to making your "Mayberry" an actual "Mayberry"! In law enforcement, you get what you pay for."
I'll bet that Andy in Mayberry did not get $450K last year like the El Segundo Police Chief. Perhaps El Segundo's "Mayberry" should really be called "Utopia".
The Police and Fire personnel get way too much money and their pensions are going to continue to kill the budget for years to come.
The one dissenter had it right ... you should have offloaded the Fire Department to the county. At least this way "Mayberry" could keep more of their special services and folks would not be layed off.
Darn fools in the council!
I like thinkers like Johnny! in fact, just lay off a bunch of cops there...so me and my homies can come take care of our business there! haaaaaaaaaaaaa
Private

Moorpark, CA

#10 Sep 24, 2010
Thank you Snoop Dawg for proving my point as to why police officers in general are needed, why not just anyone can be a police officer, and why they should be decently paid. However, Snoop Dawg, your wish may come true here in the near future and the city will be ripe for the picking for you and your home boys. The money to pay for officers on the streets is leaving in the hands of overpaid, self important, indecisive, selfish, chiefs/captains/ lieutenants/ administrators/ city officials/ etc... Many do not know that a highly skilled and highly paid position within the city is being given to a family member of the former police chief. This gentleman neither has the qualifications nor tenure to obtain such a position of importance within the city. Good people are overlooked so that the upper management can take care of their own.

The pensions and pay that management types are receiving due to the good ol' boys club is what is killing the city, not what your everyday average officer is getting. Please, keep it in perspective and keep your animosity pointed in the right direction. Officers work hard for your safety and well being, sacrificing their time with family and personal safety and well being. Department command staff (Chiefs/ captains/ lieutenants) work hard not for your well being as a citizen but for the bottom line, sacrificing safety for savings. You can always tell the difference in those that wear the uniform to "protect and serve" and those that serve themselves.
No ghetto trash

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Oct 15, 2010
No reason the county shouldn't be running the fire department. This would eliminate ridiculous calpers contributions and cut salaries.
PublicSafetyProj ect_org

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Dec 7, 2010
None of the El Segundo firefighters or police officers lost their jobs. But if they had lost their jobs, it would have been their own fault for being out-of-touch, self-entitled, over-demanding union members.

The El Segundo sworn firefighters and police officers have obscenely excessive salaries, benefits, and pensions that are unaffordable and unsustainable even without a recession. This problem needs to be resolved before they bankrupt El Segundo.

Take a look at http://www.publicsafetyproject.org/elsegundo/... for actual El Segundo City employee compensation data including salaries, special compensation, overtime, leave payout, and total earnings.

I will be adding the CalPERS pension, 401(k) deferred income, and insurance benefits soon.

Going to L.A. County fire is not a solution, because then El Segundo would lose its Paramedic Transport service, resulting in increased hospital transport times.

- PublicSafetyProject.org

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