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Rancho Palos Verdes withdraws from MAX commuter bus service

There are 9 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Dec 2, 2010, titled Rancho Palos Verdes withdraws from MAX commuter bus service. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

In the wake of Rancho Palos Verdes' decision to withdraw from a commuter bus service, other cities using the Municipal Area Express will meet next week to discuss ramifications of the move.

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Bob E

Bellflower, CA

#1 Dec 2, 2010
I just rode MAX line #2 for the first time yesterday. It is a great service, and I would hate to see it stopped just because the RPV City Council harbors little or no respect for those residents who work in the LAX corridor and would like a viable alternative having to drive every day.
King BOBby

Fontana, CA

#2 Dec 2, 2010
The bus also brings domestic workers to homes in the area as well. What are the dollar figures involved. It shouldn't be too hard for a reporter to report on.
M Richards

United States

#3 Dec 3, 2010
In viewing the number of students and others who rely on Palos Verdes Transit buses, I think the 'four' cities on the peninsula should work towards having those highly-utilized transit options financially more stable and have several lines connect with LAX corridor buses coming into and out of Torrance.
We need to make sure P.V. Transit stays healthy.
RPV Commuter

Gardena, CA

#4 Dec 3, 2010
Does this decision include the Commuter Express? Wish Max or the Commuter Express would extend to the West Side. I commute to Santa Monica everyday and traffic sucks coming from RPV to here. Taking the regular bus would take me way too long to get where I need to go, and unfortunately not many of my co-workers live close by or work the same hours. Telecommuting is not an option at the company I work for.
Mulbey

AOL

#5 Dec 4, 2010
PV is nice, but it's so far out of the way of any public transit. If you can afford to live in PV you should be driving.
PV Homeowner

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Dec 14, 2010
Mulbey wrote:
PV is nice, but it's so far out of the way of any public transit. If you can afford to live in PV you should be driving.
Apparently that's what our city council believe. When Marymount sought to build student dorms on campus they vehemently opposed it, even though the dorms would have permanently removed 250 student commuters from our roads at little or no cost to the city. Now they've cancelled the MAX service, which will force hundreds more to drive. I just don't understand it. Is our city council intentionally trying to clog our roads with commuters? Reduced congestion benefits everyone in our city, not just the users of the bus service.
Another View

Lytle Creek, CA

#7 Dec 19, 2010
PV Homeowner wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently that's what our city council believe. When Marymount sought to build student dorms on campus they vehemently opposed it, even though the dorms would have permanently removed 250 student commuters from our roads at little or no cost to the city. Now they've cancelled the MAX service, which will force hundreds more to drive. I just don't understand it. Is our city council intentionally trying to clog our roads with commuters? Reduced congestion benefits everyone in our city, not just the users of the bus service.
The traffic studies did not show that Marymount's dorms would have reduced traffic. The students would still have had cars. The traffic would just have been at different times.

The issue with MAX transit is its costs per passenger mile. They are very high. The money for transit may be better spent on PV transit.
PV Homeowner

Phoenix, AZ

#8 Feb 28, 2011
Another View wrote:
<quoted text>
The traffic studies did not show that Marymount's dorms would have reduced traffic. The students would still have had cars. The traffic would just have been at different times.
The issue with MAX transit is its costs per passenger mile. They are very high. The money for transit may be better spent on PV transit.
When analyzing traffic flow it is the peak commuter hours that have the greatest impact on the quality of life for local residents. The Marymount traffic studies showed that adding the dorms to the project would have produced a net decrease of 57 trips each weekday during the key AM peak period of 7-10am. Further, Marymout offered to cap the number of parking permits at 125 students. The City's independent consultant stated its opinion that doing so would reduce trips (and parking requirements), but the Planning Commission called for a vote to oppose the dorms before the consultant could update its report to account for the cap.

In any event, isn't PV transit just a local service? How could it replace a South Bay commuter service like MAX?
PV Homeowner

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Feb 28, 2011
And by the way, the same independent study showed that moving the commuting students on campus would have eliminated a whopping 682 school-related trips per weekday. Part (but only part) of that benefit would have been offset by the residential activities of the on-campus students, but the students were already using our roads for many of those residential type trips (visiting family, friends, etc.). If you look at total use of local roads the on-campus dorms would have permanently reduced traffic to a material degree.

This is the case any time a commuter school builds on campus dorms and is why every municipality but our own has supported moving student commuters on campus.

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