Murder-suicide shooter was star at Ca...

Murder-suicide shooter was star at Cathedral High

There are 506 comments on the El Paso Times story from Jul 25, 2008, titled Murder-suicide shooter was star at Cathedral High. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

The couple who died Thursday night in a murder-suicide had been dating, and the young woman was trying to end the relationship, El Paso police said Friday.

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REBEcca

Mexico, Mexico

#435 Jul 27, 2008
I'M SURE YOURE WRONG.......HE WILL AND SHE WILL GO TO HEAVEN FOR A FACT. GOD FORGIVES.YOUR NO ONE TO JUDGE! GOD IS THE ONLY THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN JUDGE US AND MANY PEOPLE ARE PRAYING FOR HIM TO REST IN PEACE AND FOR GOD TO FORGIVE!
nontex

El Paso, TX

#438 Jul 27, 2008
tex wrote:
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calme down jotito,this one is mine.I will save you Ben the Hebro and the other jotito.
joto? tu perra madre putita
texball

El Paso, TX

#440 Jul 27, 2008
no diane
its

member you member wey you member
Cowboy

El Paso, TX

#442 Jul 27, 2008
tex wrote:
You are not a cowboy dude.you are nontex.You are close to kotex the other jotito.
Your mothers brand, bloody and all, i understand that as a child you once used one as a lollypop
Diane

El Paso, TX

#445 Jul 27, 2008
midnight cowboy wrote:
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And it make a good tea bag also.
Oh, but not as good as mine you bloody lush.
Jessica Rabid

El Paso, TX

#446 Jul 27, 2008
ricardo wrote:
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Of course he shouldn't have killed her but what she was doing wasn't right. She was sleeping with him, so what kind of woman sleeps with a man and then wants to break up so she can sleep around with other men? It's called a crime of passion.
Raul loved her, he meant it when he said love, she was just playing him, taking what she could and then destroyed him. You don't know what women do to men, the games they play.
It doesn't matter if she slept with him or what games she played, she didn't deserve to die. Who says that she was breaking up with him "to sleep around with other men?" That is your assumption not a fact. F**K this killer!
texball

El Paso, TX

#447 Jul 27, 2008
jessica rabid.......keep going
patty

United States

#448 Jul 27, 2008
tex wrote:
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Patty you are getting mean .I dont like you when you cuss.I like when you make your great points,and observations.That is when you are at your best.Don't let these juarenos bring you down to their level.That is when they win.That is their m o
There is more than one patty, I'm the one that makes good points but doesn't cuss or use offensive language.
patty

United States

#449 Jul 27, 2008
rebecca wrote:
Some of these commentes are very strong and negative.....All I know is that Raul was a great guy a great friend....I know I miss him and I will forever....and I know for sure he is in heaven with God!
God forgives everryone and loves us all no matter what..........
(I'm not the first patty that wrote you) How can you say Raul was a great guy when he just murdered this poor girl?

If you really believe, then you believe in heaven AND hell because it's all there written. Not everyone goes to heaven and Raul didn't learn the commandment "thou shalt not kill". Some good a Catholic school did him.

It sounds to me you didn't know they guy at all. Maybe you saw a facade.
patty

United States

#450 Jul 27, 2008
Anyhow I think a lot of you juarenos and juarenas need to stop watching so many telenovelas which make this kind of drama seem normal.

Here no one feels sorry for killers. So the guy's heart got broken -- big deal, that's life.
truth

Katy, TX

#451 Jul 27, 2008
JOE wrote:
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Your aren't very bright are you.That is old news .All these people got caught .They were all guilty.The idiot Raul had been threatenting this little girl for a while and stalking her.Her so called friends Knew about it ,but didnot help ,so now they want us for sympathy ,because they didnt act in time.The idiot Raul had two personalities,He would fool everybody he was a nice guy.And all along he was picking on a little girl to force her to go out with him.That proves it was statuetory rape.These idiots that backed him up can go to jail as accompisses. The little girl was supposively in college in San Francisco ,but still managed to fly over here on weekends and be a part time instructor at tennis west and drive a BMW,even though her parents werenot rich and they worked hard for a living. And Raul's family still thinks he was a bro,a good man,and his alumni at Cathedral HIgh school,think just because he go's to Cathedral a catholic school,he is a good person like them ,that are supposively richer and better than us. In other words this is juareno bs.That is a mexican that never leaves the thought of still being mexican/cholo.
Did it ever occur to you that the girl could have worked at Tennis West BEFORE going to college? And I don't know if this is a very foreign concept for you, but there is such a thing as SUMMER BREAK when you're in college. In addition to that, there is such a thing as a summer job. So even if she did go to college in San Francisco it didn't mean that she had to be flying here every weekend you idiot.
Furthermore, this really isn't anyone's fault but the person who made a fatal and unfortunate split second decision. The fact that he had a gun with him, however, is very troubling and no one will ever know what the circumstances were, but having said that, I really can't fathom any situation in which it is excusable for someone to have been murdered.
Gigis friend

Phoenix, AZ

#452 Jul 27, 2008
What a sad thing to happen to such a great girl. For those of you who seem to concern yourself over her age she would have been 19 in a few weeks so she started dating this guy at the age of 17 which is of age in the state of Texas. As for her mother. They were great friends and she will be greatly missed. She has left a massive hole in our hearts. Gigi had so much still left to offer. May God be with her family. She may now be gone but we have our memories to help us in these difficult times.
As for the young man, I never did meet him and only know what I am being told. What ever he may have done it no longer matters because his finale act is what he will be known for. My prayers go out to his family also, what a sad thing to live with.
Longtime El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#454 Jul 27, 2008
el jefe wrote:
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So I am guessing you dated alot of the gay guys from cate? you must know from experience.... pinchi joto
Wow...Proud Cathedral Graduates. David Renteria, pedophile and baby killer and now Raul Grajeda...

God Bless Alejandra Flores and Gabrielle Martinez and may they rest in peace....
Proud El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#455 Jul 27, 2008
Wow Raul now joins another distinguised member of the Cathedral family....David Renteria, convicted pedophile and child killer...
God Bless Alejandra Flores and Gabrielle Flores and may they rest in peace...
Jessica Rabid

El Paso, TX

#456 Jul 27, 2008
rebecca wrote:
Some of these commentes are very strong and negative.....All I know is that Raul was a great guy a great friend....I know I miss him and I will forever....and I know for sure he is in heaven with God!
God forgives everryone and loves us all no matter what..........
oh please, you know for sure he is in heaven with god??? Thou shall not kill or kill themselves, that's 2 strikes agaist him, I'm sure he is NOT in heaven... He was such a great guy who killed a young girl with her whole life ahead of her. Why couldn't he just kill himself? Maybe then he would have had a chance to be with God. Your great friend is a killer,a coward, and a selfish SOB and will always be remembered as one. He didn't care what this would do to her family or his.
Jessica Rabid

El Paso, TX

#457 Jul 27, 2008
Gigis friend wrote:
What a sad thing to happen to such a great girl. For those of you who seem to concern yourself over her age she would have been 19 in a few weeks so she started dating this guy at the age of 17 which is of age in the state of Texas. As for her mother. They were great friends and she will be greatly missed. She has left a massive hole in our hearts. Gigi had so much still left to offer. May God be with her family. She may now be gone but we have our memories to help us in these difficult times.
As for the young man, I never did meet him and only know what I am being told. What ever he may have done it no longer matters because his finale act is what he will be known for. My prayers go out to his family also, what a sad thing to live with.
well said, I really feel bad for her mom and the rest of her family. My daughter and I are close as well and this really hits home with me. I just can't believe that her young life was snuffed out for no reason. She was a beautiful girl and had everything to live for. It makes me mad that he is glorified on here as a superstar and such a good guy...
Just wondering

Herndon, VA

#458 Jul 27, 2008
Why the media has to sensationalize EVERYTHING??? Instead of an article on the former star from Cathedral, why didn't the EP Times have an article on Domestic Violence and Crimes against women?? Instead they write about this former Cathedral star. Don't get me wrong, I feel for both families and will pray for them but this was an opportunity to put the word out about violence and how you can protect yourself or maybe when and where to call off a relationship etc., but instead they turned this sad and depressing story into a media frenzy. God bless those who new these people.
Just wondering

Herndon, VA

#459 Jul 27, 2008
Proud El Pasoan wrote:
Wow Raul now joins another distinguised member of the Cathedral family....David Renteria, convicted pedophile and child killer...
God Bless Alejandra Flores and Gabrielle Flores and may they rest in peace...
Why in the world would you mention the poor victims in the same sentence as their perpetrators?? Alejandra and Gabrielle deserve to be treated with more respect! What a low blow!!
cate4ever

United States

#460 Jul 27, 2008
This brings shame upon our proud Cathedral heritage. The school has gone to hell, the boys don't know how to treat their women. Calling them bits and hoes, this should never have happened.
Siempre la cate !!!!
Proud el Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#461 Jul 27, 2008
Hey Just Wondering, no disrespect to the poor innocent victims...Their names are important so as not to forget them.....

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