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Uve

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Anne Ominous wrote:
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morons with no argument scream "bigot"
Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully
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Nice try, Nope no feeble mind here and in this case the response is appropriate for a BIGOT like you...so I'll reiterate F(_)ck You!

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KiMare wrote:
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All you said was, "I'm one bitchy ass crack".
You are not a lesbian, the fact is, no man wants to marry you!
Did you notice that Bruce Willis and I have the same smirk.
Smile.
LOL, Oh but I am a Lesbian, just as much as you are...you are so consumerist and ignorant, I regret even communicating with you...
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Uve wrote:
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for a BIGOT
morons with no argument scream "bigot"
Anne Ominous

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Uve wrote:
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F(_)ck You!
Your feeble minded butthurt is showing again :)
Mother of Anne

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Anne Ominous wrote:
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morons with no argument scream "bigot"
Now Anne, what were you told about your screaming again?
Mother of Anne

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Anne Ominous wrote:
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Your feeble minded butthurt is showing again :)
Now Anne, what did we say about your filthy mouth already?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Uve wrote:
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LOL, Oh but I am a Lesbian, just as much as you are...you are so consumerist and ignorant, I regret even communicating with you...
You can't stop talking now, I'm in the middle of writing a book,'The Taming of the Lesbian Shrew'.

Smirk smile.

“Kimare's Inner Lesbian”

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KiMare wrote:
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You can't stop talking now, I'm in the middle of writing a book,'The Taming of the Lesbian Shrew'.
Smirk smile.
great 600 pages of fruits and nuts, trees twigs and berries
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Anne Ominous wrote:
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morons with no argument scream "bigot"
Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully
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Bigotry is the effort of a feeble mind trying to allay irrational fears.

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Anne Ominous wrote:
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Your feeble minded butthurt is showing again :)
And you called my responses lame..LOL How do you know it hurts?

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Each individual is free to conceptualize marriage for themselves, any way they choose.

But legally, marriage it is a fundamental right of the individual.

The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human.

Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Within those limits, gay people qualify.

While churches may place any restrictions they choose on their own ceremonies, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.

Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate qualification. Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides nothing to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.

Gay couples are seeking to be treated equally under the laws currently in effect, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.

Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.

As Justice Kennedy wrote about the founding fathers: "They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress."

Laws that treat gay people less than equal to straight people are laws that only serve to oppress. It is time to overcome the prejudices we were taught as children and stop harming our neighbors and family members by passing laws that dehumanize and harm gay citizens through denial of the legal equality promised in the founding documents and required by the 5th and 14th amendments to the constitution.

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Not Yet Equal wrote:
Each individual is free to conceptualize marriage for themselves, any way they choose.
But legally, marriage it is a fundamental right of the individual.
The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human.
I don't think your really thought about that assertion...

Most importantly, it makes the word marriage meaningless.

Second, it is not even legally true.

Third, you set your own prejudicial parameters without legitimate cause.

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Not Yet Equal wrote:
Each individual is free to conceptualize marriage for themselves, any way they choose.
But legally, marriage it is a fundamental right of the individual.
The only eligibility requirement for fundamental rights is being human.
Reasonable restrictions may be made only when a compelling and legitimate governmental interest can withstand judicial scrutiny. Most can agree with the courts that reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Within those limits, gay people qualify.
While churches may place any restrictions they choose on their own ceremonies, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.
Procreation ability has never been a requirement for marriage, and therefore fails as a legitimate qualification. Yet even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides nothing to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.
Gay couples are seeking to be treated equally under the laws currently in effect, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.
Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.
As Justice Kennedy wrote about the founding fathers: "They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress."
Laws that treat gay people less than equal to straight people are laws that only serve to oppress. It is time to overcome the prejudices we were taught as children and stop harming our neighbors and family members by passing laws that dehumanize and harm gay citizens through denial of the legal equality promised in the founding documents and required by the 5th and 14th amendments to the constitution.
As to the rest of your post;

SCOTUS has disagreed numerous times, not on a moral basis ever.

The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
A apple tree bearing fruit.
A apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.

The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too is simply silly.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.

Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship. Hardly a cause for government interest, let alone selective discrimination.

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vincent andrew wrote:
Men belong with women and women belong with men..
End of story...
Are you the newly revamped unregistered zeldo whose entertaining but controversial comments disappeared from the forum for months?
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BigNutsMcGee wrote:
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Not Done Babbling wrote:
marriage it is a fundamental right<snip>
Marriage is not a right, as I have proven again and again Babs.
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Indeed, the right to controlling marriage lies in the hands of the States as per the Tenth Amendment.
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Anne Ominous wrote:
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Now Anne, you know what your psychiatrist said about your screaming.
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Anne Ominous wrote:
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Marriage is not a right, as I have proven again and again Babs.
Now Anne, you know what your lesbian lover told you about her rights.
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Anne Ominous wrote:
Indeed, the right to controlling marriage lies in the hands of the States as per the Tenth Amendment.
Now Anne, you know what your drag king said about your tenth drink.

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