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Abel

El Paso, TX

#21 Nov 10, 2012
AREU4REAL wrote:
["You may be surprised to learn that adultery is not listed as an offense in the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). The UCMJ is a federal law, enacted by Congress, to govern legal discipline and court martials for members of the armed forces. Articles 77 through 134 of the UCMJ encompasses the "punitive offenses" (these are crimes one can be prosecuted for). None of those articles specifically mentions adultery.
Adultery in the military is actually prosecuted under Article 134, which is also known as the "General Article." Article 134 simply prohibits conduct which is of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, or conduct which is prejudicial to good order and discipline.
The UCMJ allows the President of the United States to administer the UCMJ by writing an Executive Order, known as the Manual for Court Martial (MCM). The MCM includes the UCMJ, and also supplements the UCMJ by establishing "Elements of Proof," (exactly what the government must *prove* to prosecute an offense), an explanation of offenses, and maximum permissible punishments for each offense (among other things). While the MCM is an Executive Order, enacted by the President, in reality much of the contents are a result of military and federal appeals court decisions.
One of the things that the MCM does is to expand article 134 into various "sub-articles." One of these "sub-articles" covers the offense of adultery (Article 134, paragraph 62).
Adultery, as a military offense, is difficult to prosecute (legally) for several reasons.
There are three "Elements of Proof" for the offense of Adultery in the Military:
(1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;
(2) That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and
(3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
Element #2 is usually pretty easy for the government to prove. There is normally sufficient written evidence to prove whether or not someone is legally married.(Many folks will be surprised to learn that in the military, a single person can be charged with the crime of adultery).
Element #1 can be very hard to prove. Remember, a court martial (like civilian court) requires *proof* beyond a reasonable doubt. Proof of sexual intercourse normally requires photographs, a confession of one of the parties involved, an eye-witness, or other legally admissible proof.(The mere fact that someone stayed over at another individuals house, or even slept with them in the same bed is not proof of sexual intercourse.
Element #3, in many cases, can be the most difficult item to prove. The government must show that the individual's conduct had some direct negative impact on the military. This normally would include cases of fraternization (officer & enlisted) or a relationship with another military member, or a military spouse.
In 1998, the Clinton Administration authored a change to the Manual for Courts-Martial, which provided that cases of adultery be handled at the lowest appropriate level, and provided specific guidance for commanders to use in order to determine whether or not the member's conduct was "prejudicial to good order and discipline," or "of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces." While the President does have the authority to issue changes to the MCM, this proposal resulted in screams and yells from Congress, and was subsequently dropped.
However, in a very quiet move, in 2002, President Bush adopted many of the changes that were proposed by President Clinton. In addition to the Elements of Proof," the "Explanation" section under this offense now requires commanders to consider several factors when determining whether or not the offense of "adultery" constitutes a crime."]
More useless information from a know-it-all who loves to spout off.

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#22 Nov 10, 2012
Hillary leaving really has nothing to do with Billy Bubba helping obama. He did that for the DNC not obama. Billy wanted Hilary to dump onobama and get out before now but she said that would cost obama the election and she would be blamed ahich would kill her 2016 hopes before they could get started. She can dump obama now with no bad consequences.
AREU4REAL

El Paso, TX

#23 Nov 10, 2012
UR BS wrote:
Hillary leaving really has nothing to do with Billy Bubba helping obama. He did that for the DNC not obama. Billy wanted Hilary to dump onobama and get out before now but she said that would cost obama the election and she would be blamed ahich would kill her 2016 hopes before they could get started. She can dump obama now with no bad consequences.
It really isn't any different than when the Secretary of State for George Bush 43, Colin Powell left after the first term. Those four years were tedious the same as Hilary's four years. Also don't think that she will run for President.
Larry Grover

El Paso, TX

#24 Nov 11, 2012
It's not difficult to see what happened here. I've been researching this all night and she was taken in by his power, prestige and charm. As a West Point grad, she was used to being around brass and being close to the top dog caused her to become flush with sexual excitement. In his case, his wife is a dog, a real bowser. Video of her shows her to be prudish and old fashioned. Once she started wriggling her tight buns in his face, he was a sitting duck for her physical charms. Her demeanor and personality reveal that she could turn up the heat in the bedroom to a boiling point and he fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Romo915

United States

#25 Nov 11, 2012
UR BS wrote:
Hillary leaving really has nothing to do with Billy Bubba helping obama. He did that for the DNC not obama. Billy wanted Hilary to dump onobama and get out before now but she said that would cost obama the election and she would be blamed ahich would kill her 2016 hopes before they could get started. She can dump obama now with no bad consequences.
Leave King Bill out of this. We delivered for King
Bill not the O. He is going to help the O pull out of the W deppression
service

El Paso, TX

#26 Nov 11, 2012
he was banging that hot ass chick. Who wouldnt?

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#27 Nov 11, 2012
Romo915 wrote:
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Leave King Bill out of this. We delivered for King
Bill not the O. He is going to help the O pull out of the W deppression
Billy Bubba was a degenerate but obama is an anti-American POS. Still crying about Bush when he has only made things worse in the 4 years he has had even with 2 years of total control.

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