Our schools: No furloughs, pay cuts in future, school districts' officials say

Full story: El Paso Times 59
Even though the Texas Legislature may give school districts the authority to furlough teachers and cut their pay, officials of the three largest school districts in El Paso say they have no plans to do that. Full Story
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the truth

El Paso, TX

#1 Jun 18, 2011
One way to make sure this doesnt get worse is to keep all illegal kids from attending local schools thus saving money on free lunch programs to begin with.I know it sounds harsh but as a tax paying american citizen I feel we have to draw the line.
EPISD

El Paso, TX

#3 Jun 18, 2011
Remove the waste and fraude within the school system. Investigate all the various and continous trainning sessions that EPISD supports that do nothing except cost the district money it can no longer afford. Remove the high costs that comes with all the free programs provided to students by adminstration policies that are useless. There are now within the EPISD system more chiefs than there are indians that actually spend time in a classroom. Programs like the free breakfast and Free Lunch programs to those that can provide for themselves, examime the process of programs like, Speach,PE, Band, Sports programs, free busing, wastefull field trips, non-essential personnel that sit around doing nothing until test time comes around, look into the costs for subs during those testing periods when the hallways of schools are full of personnel just sitting around in chairs outside of classrooms to monitor students going to the bathroom, do we need an assistant to the assistant to assist the assistants to get their jobs done and cut back in many more areas that cost the tax payer money that is wasted. Last or maybe first, have Dr. Garcia step down and get a new supertendent that can manage and not be mananged by layer after layer of high paying admin positions. Given this man a pay raise by hidden benifits, a yearly bonus and outright costly perks that teachers and others can not and will not receive is not justified. Spend some money to investigate his adminstration and in the long run it would save millions of dollars being stuffed into corrupt pockets and remeber when you hear its for the children, its generally for the adults, the children always come second, the adults line their pockets with our tax payer money.
Retire Natalicio

Nashville, NC

#4 Jun 18, 2011
Lucy Clark, president of the El Paso Federation of Teachers, said "It's an assault on employees' rights," - Evidently MZZZ Lucy Clark has not heard of employment at will. Either that or she's and idiot.
Lori

El Paso, TX

#5 Jun 18, 2011
WOW! So this issue does not really affect teacher pay in SISD and YISD... So EPISD what is your excuse? I think we all know the answer to that. ANY QUESTIONS???
EPISD

El Paso, TX

#6 Jun 18, 2011
He said he would not recommend a furlough for teachers because the days are already limited and are necessary for students and teachers.(Dr. Garcia in the article)
Sir, back in Feb. when the freeze hit El Paso and EPISD lost 4 working days, why did the salary paid personnel, the students themselves only have to make up 2 of the 4 days while at the same time all the hourly paid people had to make up all 32 hours or use their sick and leave time to cover the 4 days missed due to reasons beyond their own control. The union did not do much to help the hourly people but seemed to stand beside Garcia and his rules and helped to get 2 of the 4 days waivered. If I am wrong, plese correct me.
Repubnomore

El Paso, TX

#7 Jun 18, 2011
Retire Natalicio wrote:
Lucy Clark, president of the El Paso Federation of Teachers, said "It's an assault on employees' rights," - Evidently MZZZ Lucy Clark has not heard of employment at will. Either that or she's and idiot.
Evidently you haven't heard that teachers sign contracts and are not considered "at will" employees, and they do have certain rights guaranteed to them under the law.
guayten see

El Paso, TX

#8 Jun 18, 2011
Retire Natalicio wrote:
Lucy Clark, president of the El Paso Federation of Teachers, said "It's an assault on employees' rights," - Evidently MZZZ Lucy Clark has not heard of employment at will. Either that or she's and idiot.
I'm surprised that she was allowed to say anything. Seems like she is a puppet of Dr Garcia. The Union Has been very, very silent through out this crisis. They have looked after the rights of NO ONE, teachers, classrooms, or students. The only thing they can be counted on to do is take employees money.
EPISD

El Paso, TX

#9 Jun 18, 2011
guayten see wrote:
<quoted text> I'm surprised that she was allowed to say anything. Seems like she is a puppet of Dr Garcia. The Union Has been very, very silent through out this crisis. They have looked after the rights of NO ONE, teachers, classrooms, or students. The only thing they can be counted on to do is take employees money.
Munoz has jummped ship, maybe others are waking up to the coruption that Dr. Garcia has brought to the EPISD. The union here in El Paso, like most unions, look out for themselves before other concerns are fully addressed. The stupidity that took place during the big freeze points some of that out. In may cases the union here and Dr. Garcia are birds of the same feather. Their only solution to our education problem is to throw more money, more regulations and less accountiblity at the problem we face. Lie, cheat and steal without conscience is rampant within EPISD all controlled by Garcia and his staff of pick pockets at the expence of our students and those that want to teach but are held back. Notice that Garcia is the only superintendent that is really crying out while the others seem to be finding ways to deal with the short falls. All this man wants is his pay increased, bonus money and outlandish perks, now he want more at our expence. He has no moral values or feelings other than to count his money and live high on the hog. Come on school board, do the right thing vote him out and back to Ft. Worth.
Seriously

El Paso, TX

#10 Jun 18, 2011
Lori wrote:
WOW! So this issue does not really affect teacher pay in SISD and YISD... So EPISD what is your excuse? I think we all know the answer to that. ANY QUESTIONS???
Did you even read the article? Seriously, get your facts straight before you make useless comments.
DrMontelongo

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Jun 18, 2011
As citizens, we need to be more concerned about the tax cuts for the wealthy and the tax breaks for the large corporations. State governments are not collecting the fair share of taxes from corporations and the very wealthy. Instead they are firing state employees and cutting programs to make up the deficits in the budget.
Texas is a rich state. Collect the fair share of taxes from all the corporations and rich people! Use that money for health care and education. Give our students a world-class education. HIRE MORE TEACHERS!

Don't focus your attention on EPISD superintendent Garcia. Focus it on the Republicans in state government. Follow them as they give away the state treasury to the wealthy corporations and the wealthiest among us.
watchman

El Paso, TX

#12 Jun 18, 2011
sad news but hopefully better days are ahead
the truth

El Paso, TX

#13 Jun 18, 2011
DrMontelongo wrote:
As citizens, we need to be more concerned about the tax cuts for the wealthy and the tax breaks for the large corporations. State governments are not collecting the fair share of taxes from corporations and the very wealthy. Instead they are firing state employees and cutting programs to make up the deficits in the budget.
Texas is a rich state. Collect the fair share of taxes from all the corporations and rich people! Use that money for health care and education. Give our students a world-class education. HIRE MORE TEACHERS!
Don't focus your attention on EPISD superintendent Garcia. Focus it on the Republicans in state government. Follow them as they give away the state treasury to the wealthy corporations and the wealthiest among us.
Well said,I agree 100 percent.
EPISD

El Paso, TX

#14 Jun 18, 2011
DrMontelongo wrote:
As citizens, we need to be more concerned about the tax cuts for the wealthy and the tax breaks for the large corporations. State governments are not collecting the fair share of taxes from corporations and the very wealthy. Instead they are firing state employees and cutting programs to make up the deficits in the budget.
Texas is a rich state. Collect the fair share of taxes from all the corporations and rich people! Use that money for health care and education. Give our students a world-class education. HIRE MORE TEACHERS!
Don't focus your attention on EPISD superintendent Garcia. Focus it on the Republicans in state government. Follow them as they give away the state treasury to the wealthy corporations and the wealthiest among us.
Agreed, all should pay their fair share of taxes. But I am tired of given my hard earned income to free housing, free medical benifits, Free food programs, and would like to be able to drive around without insurance payments, send my kids to school without paying property taxes, free daycare, and all other kinds of welfare payments to those that do not want to work or refuse to work because its easier to sit around and do nothing from cradle to grave. BUT waste and fraude in all areas of city, state and federal goverment can and should be looked into and stopped. Its not just Republicans or just Democractes that are filled with graft and unless we the people start at the bottom and work our way up, corrupting and graft will continue. Lets start at home, starting with our city council and local reps. As far as the EPISD system is concerned, its not that EPISD does not have enough money to run correctly, its the corrupting influences headed by a Mr. L. Garcia, the head of this crime origanization. Wake up Montelongo and do not blame republicans only, the Dems are just as corrupt and I for one, would rather have taxes decrease than to continue to pay for freebies to those that complain but live without responsiblitys and take advantage of the system instead tring to change the system. I do not want or vote for anyone that thinks that redistrubition of wealth is fair when those that preach for such equality generally live like kings with well protected and hidden money in the Camen Islands. Sadly, most of those people just happen to be Democractes and many of them live here in EL Paso.
Al Gore

United States

#15 Jun 18, 2011
DrMontelongo wrote:
As citizens, we need to be more concerned about the tax cuts for the wealthy and the tax breaks for the large corporations. State governments are not collecting the fair share of taxes from corporations and the very wealthy. Instead they are firing state employees and cutting programs to make up the deficits in the budget.
Texas is a rich state. Collect the fair share of taxes from all the corporations and rich people! Use that money for health care and education. Give our students a world-class education. HIRE MORE TEACHERS!
Don't focus your attention on EPISD superintendent Garcia. Focus it on the Republicans in state government. Follow them as they give away the state treasury to the wealthy corporations and the wealthiest among us.
Do you really believe corporations pay taxes. You need to go to school to learn that people (consumers) pay all the taxes. So if the tax on the cell, gym, or insurance company really comes out of my pocket, you idiot!
We have increased spending on schools dramatically, and all without success. It is that there is too much spent on education that schools have lost sight of the basics and waste $$ on bike safety, chicano studies, earth day, sexual diversity training, and who know what other nonsense.
If any teacher doesn't like it. Quit!, there's thousands waiting for those jobs.

Since: Jul 10

College Station, TX

#16 Jun 18, 2011
Free lunch and free breakfast has another side to the coin. Title I funds to the schools from the federal government are based on income of student's families population and based on free lunch. This amounts to millions of dollars of revenue to the school districts. El Paso has far more income from the federal government than it pays in taxes. The cost elimination of the program is far less than the funds received by the districts by the federal government. If we got rid of the 'illegals' , our revenues would drop as student funding from the state is based on student population. School districts are not allowed to ask for immigration status via the federal government court cases and law. Only a electric bill, or utility is required. Even the legal residences take advantage of this as they move their kids to other schools for athletic and other purposes by simply using another address. Tax revenues are low compared to other states, try living in Ohio. People would feel far more comfortable if the district spent its money in classroom and resources for the classrooms. We have programs that are not necessary, too many non-teachers such as coaches, too many administrative positions that are redundant and high paying plus extremely highly paid superintendents that are compensated beyond what they are in other parts of Texas.
Money is Not the Answer

El Paso, TX

#17 Jun 18, 2011
MOre Money is Not the Solution

To the problems in education.

Neither is higher salaries.

Look at Mexico, India, and China

Their teachers get paid one tenth of what are teachers get

Paid and they produce an excellent education with very good

Results.

So dont believe that lie that you have to put

More and more and more Money into their fat paychecks

Its not true.

Even Canada doesnt put as much Money as we do

And they get just as good or better results
Lucy ClarK Union Puppet

El Paso, TX

#18 Jun 18, 2011
Lucy Clark and her Union

Doesnt Care about the teacher

Or about the Students

Or about Education

Or else we would Already have better test results

And a better education System

A Long Time Ago

All they care about is donating money

To political candidates

And to Union partys and Bosses

Damm SOcialist and Marxist Pigs

Horatio
mexican-american

Since: Sep 10

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Jun 18, 2011
They forgot to throw in sub standard education wether theres budget cuts or not.
howstupid

El Paso, TX

#20 Jun 18, 2011
Texas Government...... What a bunch of fking b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s.!
EPISD

El Paso, TX

#21 Jun 18, 2011
DemingNative wrote:
They forgot to throw in sub standard education wether theres budget cuts or not.


Well said and better than I was able to express myself. On the most part teachers would like to teach but with all the rules and regulations put on them, this is getting harder to do. IE: sub standard teachers with mindless alliegence to their King and their Union. Too many good teachers are falling by the wayside and its not because of pay but because of the difference in pay between those that work with our children and those that just supervise outside of a classroom. Its upside down the way our education system works and the way it should work. Those of you out there in LaLa Land spend some time with your kids and see what your getting for your taxes then take a visit to Region 19 and know where your hard earned tax money is being spendt. NO illegal should be attending our schools for free while those of us that do pay taxes foot the bill.

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