New signs of rising illegal immigration into US

Sep 23, 2013 Full story: Seattle Post-Intelligencer 645

Chart shows estimates for the number of people in the U.S. illegally; 1c x 3 inches; 46.5 mm x 76 mm; Photo: AP FILE - In this June 13, 2013 file photo, US Border Patrol agent Jerry Conlin looks out over Tijuana, Mexico, behind, along the old border wall along the US - Mexico border, where it ends at the base of a hill in San Diego.

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Larry Driscoll

El Paso, TX

#620 Nov 6, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>For the most part, when people immigrate to this country LEGALLY they do have something to offer the country, such as those new innovations you were talking about. But when they chose to circumvent the immigration laws and sneak over the border of a sovereign nation, they are usually poor and destitute and most importantly, in violation of immigration laws. Every country in this world has immigration laws, not just the U.S. But somehow, the U.S. is the only country asked to just let every Tom, Dick and Mary in this country. Also, because someone managed to sneak over into this country and hide out for 15 years shouldn't entitle them to a damn thing but deportation orders.
I see your point of view but your logic is flawed. If you want for the US to adopt tougher immigration standards because other countries have done so, why not implement all the laws other countries have on the books? I'm sure you're not in favor of nationalized oil companies, legalized heroin and prostitution or mandatory vacation time as we see in other countries with strict immigration standards. You can't pick and choose which laws you like in other countries and then set them up as the paradigm for us to follow. At least you are honest enough to admit the contributions that immigrants have made to America over the years. People like OldGlory see everyone who immigrates here as Charles Manson.

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#621 Nov 6, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
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No, I haven't heard of him but I have heard of Fermi, Einstein, Von Steuben and de la Cruz, all of whom immigrate to this country. When we shut out people, we close our mind to new innovations and progress. Sure, not everyone who comes here will make an impact, but some will and who can judge in advance anyone's contribution? If we close out gates off tight, we end up stagnating and the smelting pot of our society rots from the inside out. If you're worried about the illiterate, give a reading test, or better yet, expand education to help people read more better.
Nice try, but rapto is nothing to laugh at. Expand education? Are you kidding? They don't want an education, they want to dig into our pockets. They aren;t interested in assimilating, nor are they interested in learning enough Englsih to assist their children with homework. In fact, very many of the children born in this country to illegals, enter school without knowing much if any English themselves, which is testament to the fact that their parents don't understand how they are hindering their own chidrens' educational process.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#622 Nov 6, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try, but rapto is nothing to laugh at. Expand education? Are you kidding? They don't want an education, they want to dig into our pockets. They aren;t interested in assimilating, nor are they interested in learning enough Englsih to assist their children with homework. In fact, very many of the children born in this country to illegals, enter school without knowing much if any English themselves, which is testament to the fact that their parents don't understand how they are hindering their own chidrens' educational process.
You're right and Hispanics/Mexicans have the highest school drop out rates of any ethnic group in our country. Yeah, we really need more of them pouring into our country illegally...NOT!
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#623 Nov 6, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
<quoted text>
I see your point of view but your logic is flawed. If you want for the US to adopt tougher immigration standards because other countries have done so, why not implement all the laws other countries have on the books? I'm sure you're not in favor of nationalized oil companies, legalized heroin and prostitution or mandatory vacation time as we see in other countries with strict immigration standards. You can't pick and choose which laws you like in other countries and then set them up as the paradigm for us to follow. At least you are honest enough to admit the contributions that immigrants have made to America over the years. People like OldGlory see everyone who immigrates here as Charles Manson.
You lying POS!! I have no problem with legal immigration in reasonable numbers. You can go straight to hell with your uncalled for stupid remark about Charles Manson, you effing troll!!!

We don't need tougher immigration laws what we need are the ones on the books already enforced and stop giving amnesty to those who violate them. Now kiss off!!
Larry Driscoll

El Paso, TX

#624 Nov 6, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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You lying POS!! I have no problem with legal immigration in reasonable numbers. You can go straight to hell with your uncalled for stupid remark about Charles Manson, you effing troll!!!
We don't need tougher immigration laws what we need are the ones on the books already enforced and stop giving amnesty to those who violate them. Now kiss off!!
My, my, aren't you touchy you racist bastard. You can't wait to knock Hispanics at every turn and put them down. You want to sit in your lily white ivory tower and poke fun at everyone who doesn't measure up to your European white trash standards. Well, your time is up and you have lost this battle. Immigrants are here to stay and there is no will among the American people or their representatives for anything other than a path to citizenship and no more discussion of a borer fence. You can rant and rave all you like in here but no one with any sense thinks that anything close to your "deport them all" mentality will ever come to fruition. So go back to crying in your beer and stop the pandering to your lunatic fringe supporters.
spud

Reading, PA

#625 Nov 6, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
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No, I haven't heard of him but I have heard of Fermi, Einstein, Von Steuben and de la Cruz, all of whom immigrate to this country. When we shut out people, we close our mind to new innovations and progress. Sure, not everyone who comes here will make an impact, but some will and who can judge in advance anyone's contribution? If we close out gates off tight, we end up stagnating and the smelting pot of our society rots from the inside out. If you're worried about the illiterate, give a reading test, or better yet, expand education to help people read more better.
They don't wanna read "more better". They want to learn the finer points of picking and dealing. Maybe you can contact your Democratic controlled teachers unions and see if they could get picking and dealing added to the curriculum. Maybe you could even add a class on utilization of the donkey. Yeah dog, we really need what these ignorant peasants have to offer.....not.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#626 Nov 6, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
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My, my, aren't you touchy you racist bastard. You can't wait to knock Hispanics at every turn and put them down. You want to sit in your lily white ivory tower and poke fun at everyone who doesn't measure up to your European white trash standards. Well, your time is up and you have lost this battle. Immigrants are here to stay and there is no will among the American people or their representatives for anything other than a path to citizenship and no more discussion of a borer fence. You can rant and rave all you like in here but no one with any sense thinks that anything close to your "deport them all" mentality will ever come to fruition. So go back to crying in your beer and stop the pandering to your lunatic fringe supporters.
I only knock those in our country illegally and those who support them. How is that racist? Truth isn't racist either! I have no problem with diversity in this country so again you can stick your uncalled for remarks about my so-called lily white tower up your whazoo, you insulting POS!

"Immigrants"? The topic of this forum is illegal immigration not "immigrants". You can live in your fantasy world all you want but there will be no amnesty for illegal aliens and rightly so! I don't have a deport them all mentality. Want I want to see is all the incentives removed for them to remain here and many if not most would self-deport.

There is nothing lunatic about wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced and those are the sentiments of most Americans not just some so-called lunatic fringe.

Now get lost for good as I have no need to continue to respond to those like you who can't debate with civility but instead make personal attacks and unwarranted, false claims about others for no good reason whatsoever. Grow up!
Larry Driscoll

El Paso, TX

#627 Nov 6, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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I only knock those in our country illegally and those who support them. How is that racist? Truth isn't racist either! I have no problem with diversity in this country so again you can stick your uncalled for remarks about my so-called lily white tower up your whazoo, you insulting POS!
"Immigrants"? The topic of this forum is illegal immigration not "immigrants". You can live in your fantasy world all you want but there will be no amnesty for illegal aliens and rightly so! I don't have a deport them all mentality. Want I want to see is all the incentives removed for them to remain here and many if not most would self-deport.
There is nothing lunatic about wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced and those are the sentiments of most Americans not just some so-called lunatic fringe.
Now get lost for good as I have no need to continue to respond to those like you who can't debate with civility but instead make personal attacks and unwarranted, false claims about others for no good reason whatsoever. Grow up!
Only a juvenile, like yourself, would insist on the last word by giving your wild-eyed rant and then demanding for the other to leave upon threat of no future response. You only have no need to respond to truth in here because eventually your racially charged insults run out. I don't agree with everything these immigrants do but I can tell you that they do a damn fine job around my house with whatever chore I assign them to do. They know their place, they always call me "sir" and they don't stop until the job is done. Every once in a while I throw them a bone and it's all good. So why do you want to muck it up for everyone by throwing a wrench into a perfectly good system? You seem to be getting by so what's the problem?
Gay DC Dave

Auburn Hills, MI

#628 Nov 6, 2013
Petro is illegal, he is good at what he does. Bends over and take it right up the poop chute. Illegals are good for some things. We need to keep some of those trannys here.
ronnie

South Jordan, UT

#629 Nov 6, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
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Only a juvenile, like yourself, would insist on the last word by giving your wild-eyed rant and then demanding for the other to leave upon threat of no future response. You only have no need to respond to truth in here because eventually your racially charged insults run out. I don't agree with everything these immigrants do but I can tell you that they do a damn fine job around my house with whatever chore I assign them to do. They know their place, they always call me "sir" and they don't stop until the job is done. Every once in a while I throw them a bone and it's all good. So why do you want to muck it up for everyone by throwing a wrench into a perfectly good system? You seem to be getting by so what's the problem?
Apparently you're pretty happy with the Status Quo and have accepted the new slaves brought in here by corps. Happy with the repression that goes along with this under class of slaves? Sounds good Driscoll, go tell that to your white hat friend in Georgia. We don't need another slave trade in this Country. And they simply do not have enough education etc. too make a purposeful difference here. They anchor a 13-14 years old and live on snap and Welfare that I pay for.The rest hang out at home depot. Repression towards any other culture is wrong, not only too Americans but illegals from Mexico/south America. You must employ some of those slaves eh?
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#630 Nov 6, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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You're right and Hispanics/Mexicans have the highest school drop out rates of any ethnic group in our country. Yeah, we really need more of them pouring into our country illegally...NOT!
Where did you get that information? Another lie? You expect people to believe bitter, bigoted fools like you? We are here to stay and there is nothing a liar like you can do about it.
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#631 Nov 6, 2013
Gay DC Dave wrote:
Petro is illegal, he is good at what he does. Bends over and take it right up the poop chute. Illegals are good for some things. We need to keep some of those trannys here.
Have you told your parents you are Gay?

Just curious.
Gay DC Dave

Auburn Hills, MI

#632 Nov 6, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you told your parents you are Gay?
Just curious.
Yes, the same day I told your parents I poked you in the poop chute. I remember you very well, you are 3 foot tall, angry vile and you have a bird head. I fead you my worm for breakfast.
Unregistered Troll

Oakland, CA

#634 Nov 6, 2013
Gay DC Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the same day I told your parents I poked you in the poop chute. I remember you very well, you are 3 foot tall, angry vile and you have a bird head. I fead you my worm for breakfast.
How nasty!! You're Cho-Mo!!!!!! He was only 3' tall? He was underage!!!!! You F'in molester!!!!
Unregistered Troll

Oakland, CA

#635 Nov 6, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you told your parents you are Gay?
Just curious.
He's a cho-mo!
Unregistered Troll

Oakland, CA

#636 Nov 6, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a juvenile, like yourself, would insist on the last word by giving your wild-eyed rant and then demanding for the other to leave upon threat of no future response. You only have no need to respond to truth in here because eventually your racially charged insults run out. I don't agree with everything these immigrants do but I can tell you that they do a damn fine job around my house with whatever chore I assign them to do. They know their place, they always call me "sir" and they don't stop until the job is done. Every once in a while I throw them a bone and it's all good. So why do you want to muck it up for everyone by throwing a wrench into a perfectly good system? You seem to be getting by so what's the problem?
Pinche mokoso baboso oscoso! They weren't saying sir! They were saying Sur!!!!
Jesus Malverde

United States

#637 Nov 7, 2013
Larry Driscoll wrote:
<quoted text>
My, my, aren't you touchy you racist bastard. You can't wait to knock Hispanics at every turn and put them down. You want to sit in your lily white ivory tower and poke fun at everyone who doesn't measure up to your European white trash standards. Well, your time is up and you have lost this battle. Immigrants are here to stay and there is no will among the American people or their representatives for anything other than a path to citizenship and no more discussion of a borer fence. You can rant and rave all you like in here but no one with any sense thinks that anything close to your "deport them all" mentality will ever come to fruition. So go back to crying in your beer and stop the pandering to your lunatic fringe supporters.
ˇOlé!
DC Dave

United States

#638 Nov 7, 2013
Unregistered Troll wrote:
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Pinche mokoso baboso oscoso! They weren't saying sir! They were saying Sur!!!!
Stop your crying you fat little bitch.
Larry Driscoll

El Paso, TX

#639 Nov 7, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently you're pretty happy with the Status Quo and have accepted the new slaves brought in here by corps. Happy with the repression that goes along with this under class of slaves? Sounds good Driscoll, go tell that to your white hat friend in Georgia. We don't need another slave trade in this Country. And they simply do not have enough education etc. too make a purposeful difference here. They anchor a 13-14 years old and live on snap and Welfare that I pay for.The rest hang out at home depot. Repression towards any other culture is wrong, not only too Americans but illegals from Mexico/south America. You must employ some of those slaves eh?
I don't mind the status quo because that is what keeps us all happy. Change is the bane of business progression. And where do you get off calling me a slave owner? I pay all of my employees their fair share and give them a bowl of beans and a tortilla on Fridays out of the generosity of my heart. What they do in their free time is none of my business but when they show up to my place, they get busy and bust their butts. Someone suggested to me awhile back to hire Jamaicans and Haitians for a change but I heard from another source that they steal and I don't have security cameras on my property. So I think we should all just let things be as the old expression goes, "Let sleeping dogs lie."
spud

Reading, PA

#640 Nov 7, 2013
Democrats want more illegal immigrants. The neocon Republican leadership might not want so many of them but they won't do anything to stop then. Neocons are stupid. Any Republican that votes for amnesty needs to be voted out. Any Democrat who pushes these job killing free trade agreements needs to be voted out. We need these idiots to start doing what's in the best interest of the people, not what's best for them or their party.

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