Stadium Approved

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James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#1 Sep 18, 2012
It's a done deal, the vote is over, the die is cast, the deed is in the books. We taxpayers take it in the shorts again and can't even vote on this GD thing. I say we protest tomorrow outside city hall, occupy style, and we take no prisoners.
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#2 Sep 18, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
It's a done deal, the vote is over, the die is cast, the deed is in the books. We taxpayers take it in the shorts again and can't even vote on this GD thing. I say we protest tomorrow outside city hall, occupy style, and we take no prisoners.
I guess you are still at it but you still don't understand the voting. The Mayor has 72 hours to consider the deal and he still can veto the items 15 and 16 a,b,c and d or part thereof as he is opposed to the City hall and Insights Museum being torn down. If he does that then the city council would have to revisit the items and pass the whole thing by atleast 6 votes to overturn the veto.

The only hope is the the opposing members of the city council would then have to come up with an alternative site for the stadium. There are alternate sites around town the at he can consider and the Council can use the power of eminent domain to take. IT would cost less that all the money that would take to destroy the present city hall. The cost to repair the city hall has been pegged at $13 million but had city council and the maintenance personnel of the city been on top of things there would not be a building in need of any repairs.

Any one with a ounce of sense knows that over time repeated usage of elevators means they have to have the cables and the operating hoists replaced. There are rooms in the present city hall that are not in use and there are some plumbing problems that require attention. All of this should have been considered over the thirty year occupancy of the building and the scheduling of maintenance should have taken care of that problem.

Since: Sep 11

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#3 Sep 18, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
<quoted text>I guess you are still at it but you still don't understand the voting. The Mayor has 72 hours to consider the deal and he still can veto the items 15 and 16 a,b,c and d or part thereof as he is opposed to the City hall and Insights Museum being torn down. If he does that then the city council would have to revisit the items and pass the whole thing by atleast 6 votes to overturn the veto.
The only hope is the the opposing members of the city council would then have to come up with an alternative site for the stadium. There are alternate sites around town the at he can consider and the Council can use the power of eminent domain to take. IT would cost less that all the money that would take to destroy the present city hall. The cost to repair the city hall has been pegged at $13 million but had city council and the maintenance personnel of the city been on top of things there would not be a building in need of any repairs.
Any one with a ounce of sense knows that over time repeated usage of elevators means they have to have the cables and the operating hoists replaced. There are rooms in the present city hall that are not in use and there are some plumbing problems that require attention. All of this should have been considered over the thirty year occupancy of the building and the scheduling of maintenance should have taken care of that problem.
Yhe city just spent 12 million on Electrical and lighting up grades a couple of years ago or so. Whats with that? Me no sabe
bad idea

El Paso, TX

#4 Sep 18, 2012
Shouldn't tear down city hall for baseball, shouldn't use eminent domain to take people's property for baseball. Mayor should put a stop to this. City should arrest criminals, maintain the roads, build some parks, and leave the rest to business. If baseball is a good idea, the business folks will bring it here without anyone's help. If we as tax payers are dumb enough to pay for part of someone else's business, then I guess we're just dumb enough to pay.
the last ninja

United States

#5 Sep 18, 2012
While other cities around the country hide their corruption very well, El Crapo just doesn't care if the people notice what "they" are really doing. You could compare the city government to an iceberg. About 10 percent is really known of what really happens in are city government, the other 90 percent is "dark" ...meaning that the average citizen will never know whats really going on in their own city. Most people just see a low level of things and thats why they want this stadium, no matter what. They just don't see the bigger picture. Face it folks, EP is a low quality city for a reason. If it wasn't for Fort Bliss, EP would be part of Mexico.
Not Practical

El Paso, TX

#6 Sep 18, 2012
The location is wrong. Where city hall is now CAN NOT hold all the parking, and most sports venues were built out of the way or where they did not have historics sites like City Hall, Insights and the Abraham Chavez theatre built before. Anaheim and Arlington Cowboy stadium being some examples. The drainaige system downtown is outdated and there are rats said to go up the piping. Build your state of the art stadium, but downtown is NOT the location. Leave it alone, and that Gorda with the long black pubic hair on head on KVIA speaking at the council meeting pissed me off, yes El Paso wants success but be smart and practical first
the last ninja

United States

#8 Sep 18, 2012
_49er_Arrrrrrr_ wrote:
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Your mother is a crapo otherwise she wouldn't have crap you out of her stinky pinky bloody vigina.
By the looks of your response you must either be like 12 or just mentally challenged. I was born and raised here in EP, but lets be real.....EP is a third rate city. Someone made a good point, its not about getting a stadium, but on how it was handled and most importantly.....the location. I bet you comment on every thread just to annoy people. Is your life that crappy? I mean what a lame excuse for a human being. If you vanished as of today, no one would give a sh!t!!!!!!!
Grow up alrerady

El Paso, TX

#9 Sep 18, 2012
I agree, this guy's got serious mental problems. It's that same ol' moniker stealing little boy, who obviously is attention starved. He does this every day of his miserable life. Grow up already weirdo!
George Washington Sanchez

El Paso, TX

#12 Sep 19, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
<quoted text>I guess you are still at it but you still don't understand the voting. The Mayor has 72 hours to consider the deal and he still can veto the items 15 and 16 a,b,c and d or part thereof as he is opposed to the City hall and Insights Museum being torn down. If he does that then the city council would have to revisit the items and pass the whole thing by atleast 6 votes to overturn the veto.
The only hope is the the opposing members of the city council would then have to come up with an alternative site for the stadium. There are alternate sites around town the at he can consider and the Council can use the power of eminent domain to take. IT would cost less that all the money that would take to destroy the present city hall. The cost to repair the city hall has been pegged at $13 million but had city council and the maintenance personnel of the city been on top of things there would not be a building in need of any repairs.
Any one with a ounce of sense knows that over time repeated usage of elevators means they have to have the cables and the operating hoists replaced. There are rooms in the present city hall that are not in use and there are some plumbing problems that require attention. All of this should have been considered over the thirty year occupancy of the building and the scheduling of maintenance should have taken care of that problem.
Don't try to bullcrap me. I saw the mayor on TV last night and he's not going to veto. He said several things have changed to make the deal more desirable from when he first voiced opposition. Also, Hunt and Foster were on the air too about closing this thing quickly and they seem to be confident that they know how the mayor will come down. So it's all over and your side lost, you big whiner. Just suck it up and buy a new jersey. It might look nice on you.

Since: Mar 11

El Paso, TX

#13 Sep 19, 2012
The Mayor is a hypocrit in the worst way, he states as he leaves the meeting "I wish we could leave it to the voters" It was up to the voters once before and he vetoed the wishes of the same voters he wants sympathy from now. I personelly can't wait for his term to end.

Since: Feb 12

United States

#14 Sep 19, 2012
The mayor needs to VETO this crap. His stated opposition to the deal has not changed. He stated that he was against buying buildings for City Hall when it is slated to be replaced by a new building in the not distant future. That has not changed so his own words show that he should keep his word and veto it.
The city council no longer has the votes to overturn a veto as they need 6 of 8 and can only vome up with 5 of 8.
Veto this!
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#16 Sep 19, 2012
Mr_D_ ElPaso wrote:
<quoted text> Yhe city just spent 12 million on Electrical and lighting up grades a couple of years ago or so. Whats with that? Me no sabe
IT is the plumbing, the elevators (they are old and need to be replaced) and the windows and some problems with the exterior that need fixing.

Since: Mar 11

El Paso, TX

#17 Sep 19, 2012
What I stated was not clueless, i'm not against the Ballpark, i'm disgusted with the guitar playing plumber that vetoes the wishes of the voters and then states he wishes we could vote on it. Do you remember the vote for or against the benefits for those who "shack up"? He certainly did'nt think the voters were smart enough then what's the difference now?
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#18 Sep 19, 2012
therealgrtwyt wrote:
What I stated was not clueless, i'm not against the Ballpark, i'm disgusted with the guitar playing plumber that vetoes the wishes of the voters and then states he wishes we could vote on it. Do you remember the vote for or against the benefits for those who "shack up"? He certainly did'nt think the voters were smart enough then what's the difference now?
In principle there is no difference but in reality there was no valid petition this time to create a ballot initiative. The petition was done hastily and was shoddy at best. I get the idea the plumber is waffling now too and will likely approve the stadium.
the last ninja

El Monte, CA

#19 Sep 19, 2012
The mayor is corrupt as heck, why is that hard to see? The system is structured this way for a reason, Folks. As for 49er, you're a parasite.....you think you know, but know nothing. I bet you were abused as a child, huh? Yes, The Fosters have donated millions of dollars to the city. The thing is.... who donates that kind of money if they knew they were not getting nothing from it? You obviously don't know how the world works. Y no soy gabacho, eres un pendejo con down syndrome.
El Paso Voter

El Paso, TX

#20 Sep 19, 2012
They should put the stadium where asarco is...Or at Cohen.
FirePrice

El Paso, TX

#22 Sep 19, 2012
Not Practical wrote:
The location is wrong. Where city hall is now CAN NOT hold all the parking, and most sports venues were built out of the way or where they did not have historics sites like City Hall, Insights and the Abraham Chavez theatre built before. Anaheim and Arlington Cowboy stadium being some examples. The drainaige system downtown is outdated and there are rats said to go up the piping. Build your state of the art stadium, but downtown is NOT the location. Leave it alone, and that Gorda with the long black pubic hair on head on KVIA speaking at the council meeting pissed me off, yes El Paso wants success but be smart and practical first
Are you talking about Maria Garcia? I agree, she is the incarnation of the phrase " Lipstick on a Pig". She thinks caking on make up will distract people away from her short, fat, phoneyness. She sucks as an anchor too. Mistake after mistake day after day. Fire her KVIA, and hire a professional. Fire that idiot Price while you're at it
the last ninja

United States

#23 Sep 19, 2012
WOW! you're very mature sir....LMFAO. Ninja can mean more than one thing. I would try to explain it to you, but you just don't have the intelligence for it. Since when does a billionaire have a heart? Who in the heck do you think will give millions of dollars away, while expecting nothing in return? Are you really that naive? You probably also think the earth is 6000 years old...lol
James Russell USNR

El Paso, TX

#25 Sep 19, 2012
James Russell USNR wrote:
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In principle there is no difference but in reality there was no valid petition this time to create a ballot initiative. The petition was done hastily and was shoddy at best. I get the idea the plumber is waffling now too and will likely approve the stadium.
I don't know anything about a petition you cowardly liar and fool. You tell things using my moniker and then expand on them with no proof to back them up. STFU HHHJJJ/PETRO/PEDRO

Since: Feb 12

El Paso, TX

#26 Sep 19, 2012
Lets see these people can donate $50 million but want to have the city pay for a $50 million stadium?

Why don't they just build the dang thing themselves?

They never give anything for free. They are getting a free stadium, selling the buildings they own to replace the city hall that is being torn down.

Not all heart in my eyes.

Funny how someone like 49er that rails against anyone with money all of a sudden is all for them when it fits his agenda.

Bottom line is that Cook will most likely do nothing which means the deal stands. Just one more case of the city screwing the people.

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