Firemen and Police Funds

Firemen and Police Funds

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Huachale

United States

#1 Mar 25, 2013
As much corruption as El Paso has had, it begs the question: How long the city can remain operational?

EPT Headline:“Actions of El Paso fire and police pension director draws scrutiny”

These big-time "mismanaged" funds and the eventual consequences, may go a long way toward answering that question. El Paso, a city where crime has become institutionalized, must inevitably become a target for criminals across the country.

“Documents obtained by the El Paso Times through the Open Records Act reveal (Pension Fund Manager Robert) Stanton has a checkered past, settling a civil lawsuit with his former employer, also a pension fund, that accused him of illegally taking extra and undeserved pay. He was indicted in criminal court but charges were dropped...

“Before coming to El Paso, Stanton ran the Manchester, N.H., city pension fund. His family is from the area and Stanton's father was a long-time mayor of the city…

“Stanton, 58, abruptly resigned from the El Paso Firemen and Policemen's Pension Fund on Wednesday amid public scrutiny for mismanagement. The fund faces a $270 million shortfall after receiving a $210 million bailout from the city four years ago while newly hired policemen and firefighters surrendered $186 million in benefits…

“The pension has asked for $4 million annually from the city and $3 million annually in increased contributions from its own members to deal with the shortfall. City leaders have been reluctant to again turn to taxpayers and some have openly questioned management. The El Paso Times also recently made a slew of open-records requests and reported on the budget problems….”

El Paso City should have considered the fact that Robert Stanton’s father is a long-time, powerful politician in Manchester. Even though criminal charges were dropped against Robert Stanton there, it still should have raised red flags. Politics and money can be a huge eraser of criminal conduct.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#2 Mar 25, 2013
I think as a retired member of the city that this man be investigated and tried if there is anything that alleges theft or mismanagement or embezzling. He has a spotty record at best. When the Police and Fire were given the 200 million years ago to prop up the fund they said everything would be good as long as the city and the members upped their contributions into the fund. The City failed to act and the members failed to follow through on the recommendations. This man evidently skimmed money and as to how much maybe an outside audit will find out.
Brian Scott

El Paso, TX

#3 Mar 25, 2013
JWRussell USNR wrote:
I think as a retired member of the city that this man be investigated and tried if there is anything that alleges theft or mismanagement or embezzling. He has a spotty record at best. When the Police and Fire were given the 200 million years ago to prop up the fund they said everything would be good as long as the city and the members upped their contributions into the fund. The City failed to act and the members failed to follow through on the recommendations. This man evidently skimmed money and as to how much maybe an outside audit will find out.
I tried to get a hold of Carl this weekend to see if he would look into this. It really burns my butt that this kind of nonsense if still going on after all the indictments and convictions. We can't be afraid as voters to speak our mind and even picket if necessary. Our police and fireman deserve better than this and it's high time that everyone recognize it.
Armando Ramos

El Paso, TX

#4 Mar 25, 2013
they'll back off once they see his last name is Stanton, they are only going after people with Chicano last names.
Kenny

United States

#5 Mar 25, 2013
One of the things that burns my butt is how the civil servants prey on the general public by lording it over them. Whether they ask a woman to give them some sweet candy or force people to buy raffle tickets or use their shift to buy porno mags, we all suffer the consequences of these deadbeats.
DJ Jessy Fresh

United States

#6 Mar 25, 2013
I'll like to see how many of them actually know how to put out a fire and do they share bunks?
Petro_DC Dave Alert

United States

#7 Mar 25, 2013
Sources:
Post # 4 = Petro
Post # 5 = Petro
Post # 6 = DC Dave.
Pam Geldar

El Paso, TX

#8 Mar 25, 2013
Petro_DC Dave Alert wrote:
Sources:
Post # 4 = Petro
Post # 5 = Petro
Post # 6 = DC Dave.
What about #3? Is that really Jim Russell?
DC Dave

United States

#9 Mar 25, 2013
Petro_DC Dave Alert wrote:
Sources:
Post # 4 = Petro
Post # 5 = Petro
Post # 6 = DC Dave.
Wrong again you joto, thanks for letting everyone know that you're just another love sick over petra. You pobre jotillo.
DC Dave

United States

#10 Mar 25, 2013
Pam Geldar wrote:
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What about #3? Is that really Jim Russell?
Perhaps your queer son.
Pam Geldar

El Paso, TX

#11 Mar 25, 2013
DC Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps your queer son.
But I don't have a son - only three daughters and they're all straight, or at least mostly straight. One of them likes to fool around from time to time.
Monkeymaster

El Paso, TX

#12 Mar 25, 2013
Here here monkey everyone is not gay just because you are gay. Now go back to your boy toy Petro in the monkey cage!!!
DC Dave

United States

#13 Mar 25, 2013
Pam Geldar wrote:
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But I don't have a son - only three daughters and they're all straight, or at least mostly straight. One of them likes to fool around from time to time.
Wow a six pack of tig ol biggies
Pam Geldar

El Paso, TX

#14 Mar 25, 2013
DC Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Wow a six pack of tig ol biggies
Actually, seven if you include mine. I still have one good one, a 44DD.
DC Dave

United States

#15 Mar 25, 2013
Pam Geldar wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, seven if you include mine. I still have one good one, a 44DD.
I doubt that because you're not hispanic or black.
Monkeymaster

El Paso, TX

#16 Mar 25, 2013
DC Dave wrote:
<quoted text>I doubt that because you're not hispanic or black.
Figures you only into dick. a women would scare you!!! Joto!!!
Supermaster

Oceanside, CA

#17 Mar 25, 2013
The vile midget will not show up to face POS. He is so fat that his neck is the sam size as his vile head.
DC Dave

United States

#18 Mar 25, 2013
Monkeymaster wrote:
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Figures you only into dick. a women would scare you!!! Joto!!!
I am not interested in your old saggy yeast infected snatch. Can't you get that through your lardazz thick skull? Keep trolling.
DC Dave

United States

#19 Mar 25, 2013
Supermaster wrote:
The vile midget will not show up to face POS. He is so fat that his neck is the sam size as his vile head.
No wonder your husband left you.
Monkeymaster

El Paso, TX

#20 Mar 25, 2013
DC Dave wrote:
<quoted text>I am not interested in your old saggy yeast infected snatch. Can't you get that through your lardazz thick skull? Keep trolling.
Hey little monkey I am not interested in you. Now go back to your cage

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