Removal of EPISD principals opposed

Removal of EPISD principals opposed

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Julie Perez

El Paso, TX

#1 Mar 30, 2013
These were damn fine administrators. At Austin High, the students took to the street yesterday to express their support of Tanner. They testified to his integrity and the hard work he put in to save the school. We should hearken to these kids message and consider carefully the impact that a termination could have. Remember, the kids are our future and they made some damn fine points on the new yesterday. It was well thought out and not a pot smoking free-for-all. Plus they gave up their holiday to have their voices heard.
Lou Aires

El Paso, TX

#2 Mar 30, 2013
Julie Perez wrote:
These were damn fine administrators. At Austin High, the students took to the street yesterday to express their support of Tanner. They testified to his integrity and the hard work he put in to save the school. We should hearken to these kids message and consider carefully the impact that a termination could have. Remember, the kids are our future and they made some damn fine points on the new yesterday. It was well thought out and not a pot smoking free-for-all. Plus they gave up their holiday to have their voices heard.
I say fire all of them unless they can prove that they did not cheat by something in writing or the verbal, sworn testimony of a law officer. Many school officials don't care about anything except for getting to Happy Hour on time. Case in point - recently my next door neighbor got a call from her daughter at school saying that she had started her period and she didn't have a tampon, tampax or kotex handy. When the mother suggested she go to the school nurse, the daughter replied that in the past the nurse had advised girls to take off their bras and use that until they could get some relief. My neighbor was outraged and asked to talk to a school official who said that they were more concerned with kids who "shart" their pants than the period deal since sharting affects kids of both genders and the other does not. They are apparently afraid of being sued for gender discrimination. This is proof of my point and it happened at a school on the east side.
Montwood Mom

El Paso, TX

#3 Mar 30, 2013
You can't blame the school administrators for this. At my daughter's school many of the children come from poor homes and don't know how to use sanitary napkins properly. My daughter says that half of the girls in her class stick the tampon up their butts and then assume they're bleeding from the wrong hole. This is why we must increase school funding because we need qualified health teachers to explain to the girls the difference between the two holes, preferably with charts and diagrams. Now, if a girl wants to spread her butt cheeks and let some punk drill her in the fanny, that's her choice as it is a free country. But no daughter of mine, while she's living under my roof, is going to bend over so that some dude can get at her fanny apple. Both my husband and I find that to be perverse, kinky and in poor taste.
Question

El Paso, TX

#4 Mar 30, 2013
Lou, while understand your anger, are suggesting presumption of guilt? One injustice for another?
Lou Aires

El Paso, TX

#5 Mar 30, 2013
Question wrote:
Lou, while understand your anger, are suggesting presumption of guilt? One injustice for another?
I hear you knocking. It's an old conundrum, even a paradox, of how to disprove a negative. I'm not suggesting we ask any of them when they stopped beating their wives. But the investigation was thoroughly and efficiently conducted and the board has solid info that they were involved in the scandal which led to Garcia being behind bars. I'm not one of these deadbeats that advocates the mantra of absent any solid proof, use reliable innuendo or ironclad gossip, which can suffice for some at times when there's strong suspicion and probable cause. Anyway, better to fire the bad seeds and deal with any lawsuits later. At least the kids will be taught by people of integrity and strong morals in the interim.
Question

El Paso, TX

#6 Mar 30, 2013
I would agree if there is probable cause and the evidence supports that. They should be, as a minimum, suspended until cleared or convicted and fired.
The school board is no longer creditable and no longer has public support, therefore should resign. Followed by state receivership.
Bob Bakian

El Paso, TX

#7 Mar 30, 2013
Question wrote:
I would agree if there is probable cause and the evidence supports that. They should be, as a minimum, suspended until cleared or convicted and fired.
The school board is no longer creditable and no longer has public support, therefore should resign. Followed by state receivership.
The school board is unable to service the existing schools due to lack of funds and qualified personnel. The only solution is to close, at once, a number of schools that are under performing. I'm damn sick and tired of my tax dollars going to pay for beer parties, hookers and cake which they serve at every meeting.
JesusChristCentr alDave

El Paso, TX

#8 Mar 30, 2013
Montwood Mom wrote:
.... half of the girls in her class stick the tampon up their butts and then assume they're bleeding from the wrong hole....
I saw that moniker and couldn't wait to tear into a filthy eastsider, but Larry that was just too damn funny!
Lawnmowermaster

Oceanside, CA

#9 Mar 30, 2013
Montwood Mom wrote:
You can't blame the school administrators for this. At my daughter's school many of the children come from poor homes and don't know how to use sanitary napkins properly. My daughter says that half of the girls in her class stick the tampon up their butts and then assume they're bleeding from the wrong hole. This is why we must increase school funding because we need qualified health teachers to explain to the girls the difference between the two holes, preferably with charts and diagrams. Now, if a girl wants to spread her butt cheeks and let some punk drill her in the fanny, that's her choice as it is a free country. But no daughter of mine, while she's living under my roof, is going to bend over so that some dude can get at her fanny apple. Both my husband and I find that to be perverse, kinky and in poor taste.
You are one sick low life.

Now you pretend to be a mother.

You have some issues that need to be explored by law enforcement.
Montwood Mom

El Paso, TX

#10 Mar 30, 2013
JesusChristCentralDave wrote:
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I saw that moniker and couldn't wait to tear into a filthy eastsider, but Larry that was just too damn funny!
Thank you, but I am dead dog serious about the charts and diagrams needed in health class. Most of these kids nowadays don't realize the full distinction between the two holes, which is why many girls avoid getting knocked up but end up walking to school in the morning limping from the pain.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#11 Mar 30, 2013
I say the school district should turn all their evidence over to the FBI or the State's district attorney for El Paso and see if they are going to issue indictments. If they are indicted then let them go to court, otherwise there are going to be lawsuits up the yang against the district and the board members which we the public will end up paying for.

For the time being, leave them at the posts until the end of the school year.
Licenciado Borrego

El Paso, TX

#12 Mar 31, 2013
JWRussell USNR wrote:
I say the school district should turn all their evidence over to the FBI or the State's district attorney for El Paso and see if they are going to issue indictments. If they are indicted then let them go to court, otherwise there are going to be lawsuits up the yang against the district and the board members which we the public will end up paying for.
For the time being, leave them at the posts until the end of the school year.
You have a vile, filthy mouth. You shouldn't bear repeat that ugliness.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#13 Mar 31, 2013
The interim superintendent Vernon Butler said it was a personnel matter and the later stated that the audit would be open to the public on Monday. They are in a sense prosecuting these administrators without due process. If what they say is correct them all this needs to go before a GRAND JURY and not a very ill-informed school board.
What about the principal of El Paso High school attempting to give information to the auditors and having it thrown back in her face? How about the costs of the audit being almost 50% higher than detailed and then not reported until after the audit was released. Why was there no on going reports of costs so the board and the tax payers would know what was going on? Why were we taxpayers ripped off again?
DJ Jessy Fresh

El Paso, TX

#14 Mar 31, 2013
JesusChristCentralDave wrote:
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I saw that moniker and couldn't wait to tear into a filthy eastsider, but Larry that was just too damn funny!
The Jews killed Chuy and now you bow to them. Let Iran take care of them
WOW

El Paso, TX

#15 Mar 31, 2013
DJ Jessy Fresh wrote:
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The Jews killed Chuy and now you bow to them. Let Iran take care of them
Chuy was a punk that was running his mouth and had no chance anyhow. Now get over it move on.
JesusChristCentr alDave

El Paso, TX

#16 Mar 31, 2013
DJ Jessy Fresh wrote:
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The Jews killed Chuy and now you bow to them. Let Iran take care of them
As usual you are full of sh!t. The romans tried to kill me but it didn't work. Mary Magdalene cut me off the cross before it was lights out, took me to some cave cleaned me up, and sexed me up for a month or two. Then we headed north to be with the white people who ended up being really cool to us.
My father was cool with it too. And he kindah likes the Jews, making that MD 20/20 and all.
Get your history straight or I'll condemn you to eternal hell with the rest of the beaners and muslims!
Lawnmowermaster

Oceanside, CA

#17 Mar 31, 2013
JesusChristCentralDave wrote:
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As usual you are full of sh!t. The romans tried to kill me but it didn't work. Mary Magdalene cut me off the cross before it was lights out, took me to some cave cleaned me up, and sexed me up for a month or two. Then we headed north to be with the white people who ended up being really cool to us.
My father was cool with it too. And he kindah likes the Jews, making that MD 20/20 and all.
Get your history straight or I'll condemn you to eternal hell with the rest of the beaners and muslims!
Was your mother an addict when she carried you?
DC Dave

United States

#18 Mar 31, 2013
Montwood Mom wrote:
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Thank you, but I am dead dog serious about the charts and diagrams needed in health class. Most of these kids nowadays don't realize the full distinction between the two holes, which is why many girls avoid getting knocked up but end up walking to school in the morning limping from the pain.
You probably lick bloody tampons as if they were candy lollipops.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#19 Apr 1, 2013
The El Paso Independent School Board should resign and Vernon Butler turn this program over to the state monitors. The report on the Audit is ready and the report has been highly redacted removing names and cloaking events making the audit highly suspect. The problem is the report is very incomplete. How can you fire people on the results of a preliminary report which is incomplete? How can you even name them when the report is incomplete? Why even trust a company who failed to make monthly progress reports by each investigator and why in hell did the investigators refuse to accept documents and statements from the Four principals and their staffs without looking at them or making comment?
Pam Geldar

United States

#20 Apr 1, 2013
JWRussell USNR wrote:
The El Paso Independent School Board should resign and Vernon Butler turn this program over to the state monitors. The report on the Audit is ready and the report has been highly redacted removing names and cloaking events making the audit highly suspect. The problem is the report is very incomplete. How can you fire people on the results of a preliminary report which is incomplete? How can you even name them when the report is incomplete? Why even trust a company who failed to make monthly progress reports by each investigator and why in hell did the investigators refuse to accept documents and statements from the Four principals and their staffs without looking at them or making comment?
You have to understand the audit company wined and dined the board and also schmoozed them to get the contract. They went way over budget and ended up costing nearly a mil. EPISD seems more concerned about bullying and gay rights than teaching the students basic skills. Not every one is qualified to go to college so they need to focus on trades and marketable skills.

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