JOHN BOGERT: Here's to Penny, 'Sky Ki...

JOHN BOGERT: Here's to Penny, 'Sky King' and good all-American girls

There are 26 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Aug 30, 2010, titled JOHN BOGERT: Here's to Penny, 'Sky King' and good all-American girls. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

The Emmy telecast is all the proof you need that TV watching doesn't have the impact it once did, not in the old unifying sense.

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J W Simms

Glendale, AZ

#22 Sep 3, 2010
How in the hell! did you people go from Penny and Sky King to Francis Gary Powers and LA? WOW!! senility must be a real bitch. J.W. Simms.
To J W Simms

United States

#23 Sep 3, 2010
J W Simms wrote:
How in the hell! did you people go from Penny and Sky King to Francis Gary Powers and LA? WOW!! senility must be a real ****. J.W. Simms.
Simms, that was easy: "Ever get the feeling you might be getting senile? by the way," as you said before, "I've often wondered if Moses got hemorrhoids from carrying those heavy stone tablets around, would you happen to know? J.W. Simms."

Was Sky King related to Moses? And what about the "stone tablets"?

I guess you "forgot" it had to do with "unifying"; and the "Emmy telecast is all the proof you need," said Bogert, "that TV watching doesn't have the impact it once did, not in the old unifying sense." That's how we got to JFK and Powers. "Johnny, We Hardly Knew Ye" was a revealing story, you might want to look into it. And why was Eisenhower set up, to look like a fool in Paris?

And remember also, the CIA began construction of its present headquarters complex in Langley [Virginia] in 1959. And in a November ceremony, Eisenhower along with his "Director of Central Intelligence" Allen Dulles "laid the cornerstone of the current Original Headquarters Building." And then he got fired, our Dulles; I'm sure you can remember that.

"It is a distasteful but vital necessity," said the president in ragard to the operation of the CIA. "We prefer and work for a different kind of world--and a different way of obtaining the information essential to confidence and effective deterrents. Open societies; in the day of present weapons, are the only answer...."

And he concluded [5/11/1960], by saying "that we must not be distracted from the real issues of the day by what is an incident of a symptom of the world situation today."

And where are we now, fifty years later? Just ask John Bogert.
William Blackstone

United States

#24 Sep 3, 2010
Wow, Bogert. Just wow. Not the good kind either. Apparently, your nostalgia has gotten the better of you while you yearn for antiquated "girls" one-fifth your age. There's a criminal name for that, but I won't mention it here. I must assume however that your reading audience is about the same as the viewing audience for Jay Leno. His ratings are going down, down, down, just as the readership for old school newspapers. Eventually, you'll both be extinct. I can hardly wait, how about you?
J W Simms

Glendale, AZ

#25 Sep 3, 2010
William Blackstone wrote:
Wow, Bogert. Just wow. Not the good kind either. Apparently, your nostalgia has gotten the better of you while you yearn for antiquated "girls" one-fifth your age. There's a criminal name for that, but I won't mention it here. I must assume however that your reading audience is about the same as the viewing audience for Jay Leno. His ratings are going down, down, down, just as the readership for old school newspapers. Eventually, you'll both be extinct. I can hardly wait, how about you?
Aw hell, you'd be hard pressed to find a 10 year old virgin in this day and age anyway, let the guy have his wishful thinking. J.W. Simms.
To J W Simms

United States

#27 Sep 4, 2010
J W Simms wrote:
<quoted text>Aw hell, you'd be hard pressed to find a 10 year old virgin in this day and age anyway, let the guy have his wishful thinking. J.W. Simms.
And that's something of relevance?
What kind of sick joke is that?
To John Bogert

United States

#28 Sep 4, 2010
To LaoJim wrote:
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We all know that he got "shot down" in his U-2; but he was killed in California, when he crashed in 1977. They fixed his gage [KNBC helicopter], the night before. I'm sure Bogert knows about it.
But Bogert never told us the whole story, how this man was silenced; he knew way too much.

For 18 months Powers was in a Russian prison, and the U.S. government "negotiated for his release and settled upon a trade for convicted Soviet spy Rudolf Abel." Interestingly, the idea for the trade originated with Powers' father, Oliver.

Then in November of 1961, acting Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Charles Cabell notified Secretary of State Dean Rusk of the CIA's support of a trade. On February 1962 following President Kennedy's final approval, "at a bridge in Berlin that connected East and West sides of the city, Francis Gary Powers was traded for the spy Rudolf Abel."

Powers was immediately flown back to the United States for a comprehensive debriefing, convening what the agency called a "damage assessment team" to determine what damage Powers' shootdown and subsequent interrogation/imprisonment had done to U.S. airborne intelligence efforts.

In late 1963 Powers was offered "a chance to return to the Air Force, but Powers elected to remain at Lockheed working for Kelly Johnson." In 1969, with the end of U-2 production work, Kelly Johnson reluctantly had to furlough Powers as Lockheed was unable to place Powers in any other programs. "Kelly Johnson would write in his test logs 'I must let Gary Powers go. I have protected him for about seven years...'"!

Powers subsequently found work flying for a Los Angeles radio station as a traffic reporter and subsequently went to work for KNBC as a helicopter pilot. On August 1, 1977, Powers and his cameraman, George Spears were flying back to the KNBC heliport in Burbank in a Bell Jet Ranger 206 after covering a brush fire in Santa Barbara, when for reasons unknown, the helicopter "ran out of fuel" and crashed near the Sepulveda Dam in the San Fernando Valley community of Encino. "Powers and Spears were killed instantly."

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