Smart Sentencing vs. Jail time

Smart Sentencing vs. Jail time

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Hannabananuh

El Dorado, AR

#1 Aug 6, 2011
A lot of people committing felonies are getting off easy with "Smart Sentencing". It seems to be chosen for the individual because of an existing drug problem. That and the fact that the jails and prisons everywhere are overcrowded.

Is it good to give people the chance to get straight before sentencing them to jail?
Or is a felony a felony and they need to some time?

I honestly can't decide what I think about it. In some cases I think its great because people really do act out because of drugs, but for the most part I think its horrible that someone could beat their wife or rob someone and get rehab and a little probation for it. Just my opinion.

I would like to know yours.

And please, no hateful comments about specific people. I am talking about a statewide (or county-wide?) issue here not any certain individual. If you want to talk about a specific case then please leave out names or make them up.
Thatguy

El Dorado, AR

#2 Aug 6, 2011
Umm I think it should be case by case. And you can kinda look at a persons background and types of crimes or lack of until a point in time of their lives. Usually you can point out different actions a person makes quickly when they are honestly on drugs and make a somewhat smart decision on how to proceed. Plus having family at court should be there to testify on how this person changed when they began their long road of addiction. Maybe give them two chances and then start locking the key or something. Because people will just abuse the system if they can. You'll have people in drug court without any problems just cus they think it's easier than actual jail.

I'm still stuck on if it's a violent crime what should be done. Case by case I suppose. Maybe a mix of a rehab program mixed with actual jail. Something.
Thatguy

El Dorado, AR

#3 Aug 6, 2011
They really need some sort of free or really cheap and voluntary way of getting assistance with addiction. I think some people would go when they hit or were about to hit rock bottom for real help. Maybe also keep the person looking for help completely annonymous as possible. Give them help. Don't make them take it after they hurt someone and the court made them go.
HmMmMm

El Dorado, AR

#4 Aug 6, 2011
I wonder how long it will take for people to figure out they will get in less trouble by lying about having a severe addiction? I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them to get a loved one to lie as well. People can be oddly devoted to their criminal family members.
Thatguy

El Dorado, AR

#5 Aug 6, 2011
Yeah that's part of giving them like two chances and then let it get real and letting them try detoxing stuck in a jail cell and having someone rape them in prison might knock it out of their system. The judge doesn't only rely on the families word and definitely nothing the accused says will have credibility. Someone with addicion will have drug related type crimes.
Amy

El Dorado, AR

#6 Aug 6, 2011
I know a girl who stole thousand of dollars worth of stuff from an elderly woman and she got rehab and probation. She was also on drugs real bad. I don't think she would have done it if she wasn't desperate for drug money because it was really stupid.
Thatguy

El Dorado, AR

#7 Aug 6, 2011
Yeah that's exactly what drug addiction does to someone. It's a chemical imbalance and the drug becomes as important or more important than eating for some. So stealing money was justified in her head. She needs rehab for help or she's gonna end up in jail or end up dead. Real talk. Unless you meant she is a success already after going to rehab. Then I say congratulations to your friend. Drug addiction ain't no joke.
Tough Love

El Dorado, AR

#8 Aug 6, 2011
If someone is addicted, they have a responsibility to society to get straightened out BEFORE the law catches up with them.

I'm sorry if someone has an addition they can't break, but it's their own fault.

If someone steals to support a drug habit, off to the slammer.

Three strikes, off with their head.
Thatguy

El Dorado, AR

#9 Aug 6, 2011
Tough Love wrote:
If someone is addicted, they have a responsibility to society to get straightened out BEFORE the law catches up with them.
I'm sorry if someone has an addition they can't break, but it's their own fault.
If someone steals to support a drug habit, off to the slammer.J
Three strikes, off with their head.
And people and politicians just like you are why people can't get help properly. You do not know what you are talking about and in that you are ignorant in the subject. You think it's better to have people in jail for years and then get out and most likely turn back to the drug because they were not truely rehab'd. There are millions in this country that if were helped early would end up saving the country money and the jails wouldn't be needlessly jammed up.
Tough Love

El Dorado, AR

#10 Aug 6, 2011
Thatguy wrote:
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And people and politicians just like you are why people can't get help properly. You do not know what you are talking about and in that you are ignorant in the subject. You think it's better to have people in jail for years and then get out and most likely turn back to the drug because they were not truely rehab'd. There are millions in this country that if were helped early would end up saving the country money and the jails wouldn't be needlessly jammed up.
You can't help someone that won't help themselves.

And I'm not the reason jails are jammed up. Our jails are crammed full with repeat offenders that need to be exterminated so we can make room for new offenders.

It's soft hearted people like you that cry "help them" and want to pamper criminals that keep the jails full.
Thatguy

El Dorado, AR

#11 Aug 6, 2011
Ha ur just retarded. You can't see past your hand apparently so I'm done. Have a nice life. Die slow. Hopefully from addicion that you can't get help from. Don't say it won't be you. Never know.
I like this guy

El Dorado, AR

#12 Aug 7, 2011
Tough Love wrote:
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You can't help someone that won't help themselves.
And I'm not the reason jails are jammed up. Our jails are crammed full with repeat offenders that need to be exterminated so we can make room for new offenders.
It's soft hearted people like you that cry "help them" and want to pamper criminals that keep the jails full.
Have you looked at the jail roster? Our jail is full of poeple that can't pay the fines. Our county's solution for the poor is to feed them and give them a bed. Not so bad.
Angela Nutt

East Saint Louis, IL

#13 Aug 8, 2011
I vote for smart sentencing, and y'all call all kiss my big fat lily white ankle cuffed free white trash ass!
wheel chair

El Dorado, AR

#14 Sep 10, 2011
Angela Nutt wrote:
I vote for smart sentencing, and y'all call all kiss my big fat lily white ankle cuffed free white trash ass!
I heard that!! Smarter sentencing put me back on my feet and gave me opportunities i would have never had if i woulda went to jail and plus im livin a sober life today so for all you haters eat doodoo
Ummm

El Dorado, AR

#15 Sep 10, 2011
Tough Love wrote:
If someone is addicted, they have a responsibility to society to get straightened out BEFORE the law catches up with them.
I'm sorry if someone has an addition they can't break, but it's their own fault.
If someone steals to support a drug habit, off to the slammer.
Three strikes, off with their head.
That is exactly what I think about the meth man who died by his own hand while incarcerated at USCO.
anonymous

Harrison, AR

#16 Sep 7, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
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You can't help someone that won't help themselves.
And I'm not the reason jails are jammed up. Our jails are crammed full with repeat offenders that need to be exterminated so we can make room for new offenders.
It's soft hearted people like you that cry "help them" and want to pamper criminals that keep the jails full.
What will your "offense" be,when "they" don't agree with your politics or free choice.You really are ignorant about the disease of addiction.I hope that you never need open heart surgery and someone tells you where to buy scalpel
Paula

El Dorado, AR

#17 Sep 8, 2013
Dumb asses
Really

United States

#18 Sep 12, 2013
Its a joke! Drug court was a pretty good thing but Robin Carrol has bastardized it and "created" smarter sentencing as a stepping stone before he was appointed judge. There's so much corruption and gross incompetence on all levels of the judicial system here... It's all about getting more grant money, they've turned the rehab process into a business racket! Habitual offenders and plagues on society shouldn't have a place among law abiding citizens who HOPE the prosecutors will one day do there job... Now there's a "swift court" too... Lots of cracks for money to fall into!!!
actually

Portland, OR

#19 Sep 12, 2013
Really wrote:
Its a joke! Drug court was a pretty good thing but Robin Carrol has bastardized it and "created" smarter sentencing as a stepping stone before he was appointed judge. There's so much corruption and gross incompetence on all levels of the judicial system here... It's all about getting more grant money, they've turned the rehab process into a business racket! Habitual offenders and plagues on society shouldn't have a place among law abiding citizens who HOPE the prosecutors will one day do there job... Now there's a "swift court" too... Lots of cracks for money to fall into!!!
The prosecutor is doing his/her job when MY TAX DOLLARS are not going to feed, water, and shelter drugheads. They need help, but they need to be taught to become self-sufficient; not to be locked up to learn how to become criminals, dumbass.
Really

United States

#20 Sep 12, 2013
actually wrote:
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The prosecutor is doing his/her job when MY TAX DOLLARS are not going to feed, water, and shelter drugheads. They need help, but they need to be taught to become self-sufficient; not to be locked up to learn how to become criminals, dumbass.
APPARENTLY you believe all you read in the paper, got some ocean front property for sale in norphlet just trust me you dont need to see it...just Hope n Trust your $ is well spent!....make a donation to them if you feel so strongly! Dumbass... They might put an ankle bracelet on them n give them beyond enough slack to hang themselves...only for them to do it again... All at taxpayer (fed, state funding) expense... Good luck! ElDo as well as all levels of govt seems to be rewarding/overlooking behavior that would've gotten ppl starved to death or shot not that long ago... And we continue to try n figure out this revolving door of drug abuse, crime, political corruption.... As I said GOOD LUCK!

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