The Perks of Not Living in El Dorado
tessa

El Dorado, AR

#22 May 14, 2013
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Then, I can tell you didn't attend Conway. I referred to college enrollment, not some study done based off of student test scores. Yeah, we have the "the Promise to pay for it, blah, blah, blah..." But El Dorado still has more seniors enroll in college EVERY YEAR than Conway does. That is a fact you can't ignore. Colleges and Universities are not concerned about getting the best and the brightest.
Ummm I just got done applying to colleges so I happen to know that colleges definitely ARE concerned with getting the best and brightest. I went to EHS and have plenty of money from the Promise to pay for my college education but I was still wait-listed at SMU because my ACTs were only two points above the admission requirements. My parents made me go there to the department of my major and talk to any professor I could to show them how committed I am and that I have passion and interest and I really think that is the only reason I got in. Some schools are super-competitive! They definitely don't take just anyone just because they can pay for it out of pocket!
Lars Vilks

El Dorado, AR

#23 May 14, 2013
Trash wrote:
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I'm not Tedder, dumbass! I'm a woman....You are a prime example of the ignorant, redneck hick trash that I was talking about..."Paw, get yer rifle! Maynard done got the rabbies!"
What the h-ll does this mean?
Another EHS Student

El Dorado, AR

#24 May 14, 2013
tessa wrote:
<quoted text> Ummm I just got done applying to colleges so I happen to know that colleges definitely ARE concerned with getting the best and brightest. I went to EHS and have plenty of money from the Promise to pay for my college education but I was still wait-listed at SMU because my ACTs were only two points above the admission requirements. My parents made me go there to the department of my major and talk to any professor I could to show them how committed I am and that I have passion and interest and I really think that is the only reason I got in. Some schools are super-competitive! They definitely don't take just anyone just because they can pay for it out of pocket!
I barely got accepted into UT and I have a perfect GPA and really decent ACT scores. I really think I got in purely because a well known wealthy alum gave me a recommendation. A lot of the larger universities are only taking kids who are in the 90th percentile in test scores. So I really don't get why anyone would think colleges would take anyone that can pay for it. SAU probably does but they're desperate, lol.
actually

Dallas, TX

#25 May 14, 2013
tessa wrote:
<quoted text> Ummm I just got done applying to colleges so I happen to know that colleges definitely ARE concerned with getting the best and brightest. I went to EHS and have plenty of money from the Promise to pay for my college education but I was still wait-listed at SMU because my ACTs were only two points above the admission requirements. My parents made me go there to the department of my major and talk to any professor I could to show them how committed I am and that I have passion and interest and I really think that is the only reason I got in. Some schools are super-competitive! They definitely don't take just anyone just because they can pay for it out of pocket!
And I just got put of college a few years ago and can assure you revenue is more important than the quality of enrollment. Who are the highest paid public service workers in every state? College Presidents and Football Coaches!!! And they are not compensated by your GPA. They actually do accept anyone that can pay for tuition out of pocket. Oh, the things you'll learn in economics ;)
actually

Maumelle, AR

#26 May 14, 2013
out* not put
actually

Maumelle, AR

#27 May 14, 2013
Another EHS Student wrote:
<quoted text> I barely got accepted into UT and I have a perfect GPA and really decent ACT scores. I really think I got in purely because a well known wealthy alum gave me a recommendation. A lot of the larger universities are only taking kids who are in the 90th percentile in test scores. So I really don't get why anyone would think colleges would take anyone that can pay for it. SAU probably does but they're desperate, lol.
Colleges will continue to scale down the acceptible test scores to fulfill enrollment obligations to meet budget demands. This is common knowledge. Real world experiences in your post-college life will reveal this reality to you, as you grudgingly pay off your college loans over the next decade.
Hog Wild

Haslet, TX

#28 May 14, 2013
Lars Vilks wrote:
<quoted text>What the h-ll does this mean?
It means you're a Hill Billy
Hog Wild

Haslet, TX

#29 May 14, 2013
Lars Vilks wrote:
<quoted text>What the h-ll does this mean?
And you probably have sex with your sister and your Dad is your uncle.
Lars Vilks

El Dorado, AR

#30 May 14, 2013
Hog Wild wrote:
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It means you're a Hill Billy
That's the dumbest £hit I ever heard.
Hog Wild

Haslet, TX

#31 May 14, 2013
Lars Vilks wrote:
<quoted text>That's the dumbest £hit I ever heard.
I'm pretty sure you've heard some dumb £hit in your life
Lars Vilks

United States

#32 May 14, 2013
Hog Wild wrote:
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I'm pretty sure you've heard some dumb £hit in your life
Yea usually from people a lot like you.
Hog Wild

Haslet, TX

#33 May 14, 2013
Lars Vilks wrote:
<quoted text>Yea usually from people a lot like you.
More like all those inbreds you live with
half true

El Dorado, AR

#34 May 14, 2013
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And I just got put of college a few years ago and can assure you revenue is more important than the quality of enrollment. Who are the highest paid public service workers in every state? College Presidents and Football Coaches!!! And they are not compensated by your GPA. They actually do accept anyone that can pay for tuition out of pocket. Oh, the things you'll learn in economics ;)
I have a child who just graduated and I think your comment is about half true. Colleges prefer to have kids pay out of pocket but they also want to get as many of the "best and brightest" as they possibly can. The proof is in my child's attempts at college enrollment, as well as that of his friends and what their parents have to say. All EHS students who have money to burn because of the Promise (thank the Lord for it). The top tier universities like your ivy leagues will only take kids with the highest scores and that should be a given. My boy is going to UofA and he had a hard time of it. We were afraid he wouldn't get in with the rest of his friends because his ACT score wasn't so high, but his GPA was near perfect. Perhaps the money from the Promise helped sway their decision to let him in, I'm not sure. His best friend got into Penn but also had a 33 on his ACT, whereas one of his other close friends applied to the same school and didn't get accepted because his scores and GPA just weren't as high. I've seen first hand this year that there are some highly competitive universities that won't take anyone just because they can pay. Some schools have the option of taking the best they can. Several of my son's friends got rejected from their first choices, and they all have the Promise. His ex girlfriend was rejected from Texas A&M and had a real fit about it. I think my son may have dumped her because her whining about it went on for weeks. It was all we heard about when we had her over for dinner. She always blamed her not getting in on someone else. But I digress...

I think any university is happy when they get paid up front, but most of them get paid anyway regardless. Most students get loans from banks and the banks pay. There are also government grants as well as scholarships that are paid for by benefactors, not the school itself. Most students aren't out there getting full rides from the universities themselves, that is a rare thing that they only do when they want a certain kid really bad because he or she shows exceptional potential in a certain subject. In fact, all the political fuss the media is always talking about is the amount of student debt when they get out of school. This debt isn't owed to the school, it is owed to the banks that already paid for their schooling.

I do agree with you that some schools will take just anyone who can pay. A friend of mine's kid is going to Louisiana Tech in the fall and the poor thing only had a 18 on her ACT and a 2. something GPA. Not the brightest crayon. Tech took her in a hot second, probably because of the Promise.

I guess what I'm saying is, you're right but only concerning certain schools. Many schools only want the best. Others will take anyone, and there are thousands that are everywhere in between.
half true

El Dorado, AR

#35 May 14, 2013
Back to what the thread was about in the first place..... I see the perks people get who live in other places than El Dorado, but I also see the major perks for those of us who do. The Promise is a huge factor. Our kids have the benefit of not having tons of debt when they graduate from university. We also get to live in a place with fresh air and can live in the country, unlike the suburbs of cities where houses are so close you can spit on your neighbors house from your own window! Personally, I like the fact that I could walk outside stark naked if I wanted and not a damn person could see me. We have everything we need here and more. I grew up in Fordyce, and let me tell you, El Dorado is like a metropolis compared to that place. To me, El Dorado isn't too small and it isn't too big. Just right for us. My kids may make other decisions. They're young and want to see the world, the big cities, all of that. But I think one day they will be burnt out on that and want to return here, or at least to a town that is similar. On the other hand, one of my dearest friends and her family just moved to Alabama about a year ago. They hated it here. I thought to myself the same thing a lot of people do that like it here.. "they're just unhappy and miserable and will be anywhere". I think part of me was just mad she was leaving, like my town, the town I love, wasn't "good enough" for her. But there she is a year later loving it! So happy to be out of El Dorado and living in a town she raves about like its heaven.

Different strokes for different folks! I know El Dorado doesn't have everything but it has enough for us. If it doesn't for someone else I'm not going to get offended or call them miserable, I just think they should try living elsewhere so they will be happier.
Steven

Haslet, TX

#36 May 15, 2013
Eldo is a dump
PCgirl

El Dorado, AR

#37 May 15, 2013
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And I just got put of college a few years ago and can assure you revenue is more important than the quality of enrollment. Who are the highest paid public service workers in every state? College Presidents and Football Coaches!!! And they are not compensated by your GPA. They actually do accept anyone that can pay for tuition out of pocket. Oh, the things you'll learn in economics ;)
Lol! Almost anyone can get a bank loan for school. I'm pretty sure that if all schools would take anyone who had the money for it that there would be no point at all in studying for SATs or ACTs or caring at all about GPA and nobody would ever get rejected because why would they if none of that matters? I know schools have to make money but people get rejected all the time despite the fact they can pay for it because the school they applied to took the people with the highest scores they could get. At PC we don't have the promise obviously but my best friend got rejected from Florida and her parents have money to burn so yeah.
Face

Haslet, TX

#38 May 15, 2013
There is nothing to do here except drugs and harass people on Topix
actually

Dallas, TX

#39 May 15, 2013
PCgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Lol! Almost anyone can get a bank loan for school. I'm pretty sure that if all schools would take anyone who had the money for it that there would be no point at all in studying for SATs or ACTs or caring at all about GPA and nobody would ever get rejected because why would they if none of that matters? I know schools have to make money but people get rejected all the time despite the fact they can pay for it because the school they applied to took the people with the highest scores they could get. At PC we don't have the promise obviously but my best friend got rejected from Florida and her parents have money to burn so yeah.
No, almost anyone can not get a bank loan. Schools do take in all the enrollment that they can, and they START with the higher test scores, THEN continue accepting on down until max enrollment is fulfilled. If someone can't pay for it, they move to the next on the list. With college being a service industry in this day, why rack up thousands of dollars in student loans at a large university? That's right... "Intelligent" people like you who feel that better opportunities can be had there finish your sentences with "so yeah." A fool and his money are soon separated.

If Florida didn't have students with better ACT scores with many more "parents with money to burn," your friend might've gotten in. Nothing can be determined with your vague information, and I hope you are not a highly-touted example of the PC educational system.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#40 May 15, 2013
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Conway is congested with traffic, nothing of notoriety for families, too many college kids with time on their hands, and doesn't hold a candle to the number of college enrollment of their graduating high school seniors as El Dorado. El Dorado is a much more quality place to live!
They might enroll, but do they graduate. Look that up and stastics don't lie. Very few graduate college.
Agree with the above

Macomb, MI

#41 May 15, 2013
half true wrote:
<quoted text> I have a child who just graduated and I think your comment is about half true. Colleges prefer to have kids pay out of pocket but they also want to get as many of the "best and brightest" as they possibly can. The proof is in my child's attempts at college enrollment, as well as that of his friends and what their parents have to say. All EHS students who have money to burn because of the Promise (thank the Lord for it). The top tier universities like your ivy leagues will only take kids with the highest scores and that should be a given. My boy is going to UofA and he had a hard time of it. We were afraid he wouldn't get in with the rest of his friends because his ACT score wasn't so high, but his GPA was near perfect. Perhaps the money from the Promise helped sway their decision to let him in, I'm not sure. His best friend got into Penn but also had a 33 on his ACT, whereas one of his other close friends applied to the same school and didn't get accepted because his scores and GPA just weren't as high. I've seen first hand this year that there are some highly competitive universities that won't take anyone just because they can pay. Some schools have the option of taking the best they can. Several of my son's friends got rejected from their first choices, and they all have the Promise. His ex girlfriend was rejected from Texas A&M and had a real fit about it. I think my son may have dumped her because her whining about it went on for weeks. It was all we heard about when we had her over for dinner. She always blamed her not getting in on someone else. But I digress...
I think any university is happy when they get paid up front, but most of them get paid anyway regardless. Most students get loans from banks and the banks pay. There are also government grants as well as scholarships that are paid for by benefactors, not the school itself. Most students aren't out there getting full rides from the universities themselves, that is a rare thing that they only do when they want a certain kid really bad because he or she shows exceptional potential in a certain subject. In fact, all the political fuss the media is always talking about is the amount of student debt when they get out of school. This debt isn't owed to the school, it is owed to the banks that already paid for their schooling.
I do agree with you that some schools will take just anyone who can pay. A friend of mine's kid is going to Louisiana Tech in the fall and the poor thing only had a 18 on her ACT and a 2. something GPA. Not the brightest crayon. Tech took her in a hot second, probably because of the Promise.
I guess what I'm saying is, you're right but only concerning certain schools. Many schools only want the best. Others will take anyone, and there are thousands that are everywhere in between.
Even those Ivy League colleges have students who apply with perfect GPA's and well above required SAT scores. I know here in Boston, to get into places like Harvard and MIT which are 2 of the most prestigious universities in the nation, just having those two things alone won't get you in. You have to have something to stand out above the rest. Some students who go to Harvard told me they had to write essays about different things. They were given a topic, and they only pick the most interesting essays they read to even be given interviews to get into the schools.

Also I used to live 10 minutes from Stanford University, and I can also tell you, I know someone who played Basketball for the University but started out on an academic scholarship. Being able to play basketball was a plus, but she actually had an awesome talent that set her apart from other students and that got her into the university. I know students who went to Stanford business school, to get into their masters program, you have to show that you have at LEAST $100,000 to pay for it. They don't let just anyone into these schools.

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