Country Club Memberships
John

El Dorado, AR

#24 Aug 2, 2013
Yay wrote:
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All I'm saying is, Murphy already had a corporate account at the club. They bought them personal memberships. Mystic is trying to build more for members, but they need more funding
All I'm saying is that Mystic Creek is great if you're an above average golfer and all you want is golf without the amenities of a country club. I bet less than 5% of the employees Murphy bought personal memberships for would fit in that category.

So do you think Murphy should have spent that money at Mystic Creek, or are you just upset they spent it at the Country Club?
Yay

El Dorado, AR

#26 Aug 2, 2013
John wrote:
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All I'm saying is that Mystic Creek is great if you're an above average golfer and all you want is golf without the amenities of a country club. I bet less than 5% of the employees Murphy bought personal memberships for would fit in that category.
So do you think Murphy should have spent that money at Mystic Creek, or are you just upset they spent it at the Country Club?
My opinion is, you deserve to be talked about if you openly discuss your displeasure of a new course coming into your town because you are scared that the country club is going to be closed down. Then you turn around and pour money into a crappy course and an average course. You pay for some of your employees memberships at the CC just so they won't go somewhere else. If you have ever had a chance to eat a meal out there, you damn well know that nobody joins the club for their food.

Nice things in the community helps out everyone. If someone drives over here, they are more than likely going to get something to eat or stop at another store. That's just more money that goes directly into this already struggling region of the state.
agreed

El Dorado, AR

#27 Aug 2, 2013
I dont get the appeal of joining the Country Club. the food sucks and the building is out dated and so are most to the people who commiserated out there.
Cash

United States

#28 Aug 2, 2013
How's the club house,restaurant,bar and pool at Mystic?
yep

Memphis, TN

#29 Aug 2, 2013
agreed wrote:
I dont get the appeal of joining the Country Club. the food sucks and the building is out dated and so are most to the people who commiserated out there.
The food is actually not bad, the course is average but easy to navigate, and the building is older. But the appeal of the country club is having golf, tennis, a pool, a restaurant, a few bars, and event registrations all at one location. Mystic Creek appeals to people from outside the area, and it is ALSO heavily funded from local old money.
omg

El Dorado, AR

#30 Aug 2, 2013
Cash wrote:
How's the club house,restaurant,bar and pool at Mystic?
Does mystic have a club house/bar/ restaurant?? Would love to know! We r bored with the El Do CC.... Looking for something new.
already been said

Memphis, TN

#31 Aug 3, 2013
omg wrote:
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Does mystic have a club house/bar/ restaurant?? Would love to know! We r bored with the El Do CC.... Looking for something new.
No. Just a golf course.
John

Memphis, TN

#33 Aug 3, 2013
Yay wrote:
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My opinion is, you deserve to be talked about if you openly discuss your displeasure of a new course coming into your town because you are scared that the country club is going to be closed down. Then you turn around and pour money into a crappy course and an average course. You pay for some of your employees memberships at the CC just so they won't go somewhere else. If you have ever had a chance to eat a meal out there, you damn well know that nobody joins the club for their food.
Nice things in the community helps out everyone. If someone drives over here, they are more than likely going to get something to eat or stop at another store. That's just more money that goes directly into this already struggling region of the state.
So a company openly discussed its displeasure about the new course? Because you've been blaming this whe thing on a company. Or are you now referring to an individual?

And yes, having nice things in the community helps everyone. Having a stronger country club is one of those nice things.
Wtf

El Dorado, AR

#35 Aug 3, 2013
If you compare the number of housing units to the population anyone can see that we have far more housing than necessary because of the severe population decline. Mystic Creek is only going to appeal to people who want to stay out of town but still be in city limits. In other words, white flighters. If they succeed, then in time there will be many more middle-middle class and upper-middle class residents to move out that way.

Nobody should expect a brand new area to just shoot up and suddenly be filled. This is El Dorado, after all, not some thriving area where there is a competitive housing market. In ten years or so, with some good planning and hopefully, a larger population, maybe Mystic will be big enough to put a full on Country Club type setting out there, with a restaurant and pool and tennis courts in addition to the golf course. Until then, its just a nice golf course.

Old families do play favorites. They have loyalties like anyone else, only with more money and power. It's the way it is, and in my opinion, those families do as much harm as they do good in the town, but there is nothing anyone can do to change that. Definitely no need to get worked up about it. We're a small town with an almost "ruling class" type local aristocracy. This is a corrupt place, though not dangerously corrupt. It is corrupt in the best way possible, if there is such a thing. Come to terms with that and you won't be so surprised when you witness it.
John

Memphis, TN

#36 Aug 3, 2013
Wtf wrote:
If you compare the number of housing units to the population anyone can see that we have far more housing than necessary because of the severe population decline. Mystic Creek is only going to appeal to people who want to stay out of town but still be in city limits. In other words, white flighters. If they succeed, then in time there will be many more middle-middle class and upper-middle class residents to move out that way.
Nobody should expect a brand new area to just shoot up and suddenly be filled. This is El Dorado, after all, not some thriving area where there is a competitive housing market. In ten years or so, with some good planning and hopefully, a larger population, maybe Mystic will be big enough to put a full on Country Club type setting out there, with a restaurant and pool and tennis courts in addition to the golf course. Until then, its just a nice golf course.
Old families do play favorites. They have loyalties like anyone else, only with more money and power. It's the way it is, and in my opinion, those families do as much harm as they do good in the town, but there is nothing anyone can do to change that. Definitely no need to get worked up about it. We're a small town with an almost "ruling class" type local aristocracy. This is a corrupt place, though not dangerously corrupt. It is corrupt in the best way possible, if there is such a thing. Come to terms with that and you won't be so surprised when you witness it.
What I find funny is that people keep claiming this place is corrupt, but they give no evidence to back that up. I think El Dorado is more incompetent than anything. Hash has no idea what he's doing, and his militaristic ways are killing every single thing he tries to push through. He doesn't know how to work with others, and it shows. The boat deal in the paper is a prime example. Rather than letting the normal economic development process work itself out, hash decided he knew better and tried to force it through on his own. And it died a miserable death. No corruption involved, just plain old incompetence.
Duh

San Jose, CA

#37 Aug 3, 2013
John wrote:
No, Yay, you don't get it. We can have both. You think supporting the Country Club means trying to destroy Mystic Creek. Do you think Murphy was trying to encourage their managers to play golf? Or perhaps they were trying to also give them a more private place to dine, swim and play tennis while giving the Country Club a boost in the arm. They couldn't have given that to Mystic Creek if they had wanted to, BECAUSE MYSTIC CREEK DOESN'T HAVE THOSE THINGS!
Personally I like Mystic Creek, and I hope they can make it financially. But attitudes like yours are turning people off to the whole thing.
Do they have restrooms or just porta potties?
Paula

United States

#38 Aug 3, 2013
Worry a out
Curry

El Dorado, AR

#39 Aug 3, 2013
What I'm wondering is how anyone could think a small town with a handful of uber rich old money families WOULDN'T be corrupt.
Paula

United States

#41 Aug 3, 2013
Mystic creek rocks
WatchTheHomoGo

El Dorado, AR

#42 Aug 3, 2013
"ALL" comments the ignorantAzzHomo.
Doug

Memphis, TN

#43 Aug 3, 2013
Paula wrote:
Mystic creek rocks
If you like golf. We already had two golf courses. Why couldn't they just dig a big hole and pour water in it? Am I the only one who'd like a lake close by? Something other than that nasty Calion lake
REALLY

United States

#44 Aug 3, 2013
Are you really saying that Murphy is trying to destroy MC because they support the CC. Did you expect Murphy to pay for the electric lines are something? Supporting the CC is nothing new for Murphy; I guess they should have dropped the CC to support MC!! WHATEVER! Murphy does a lot for this community so stop bashing the company! Maybe Murphy does not care just about the golf; instead they see the full family benefits of the CC including the pool, etc.... I can only imagine what would be said if Murphy stopped supporting the CC.
yes yes

El Dorado, AR

#45 Aug 5, 2013
Wtf wrote:
If you compare the number of housing units to the population anyone can see that we have far more housing than necessary because of the severe population decline. Mystic Creek is only going to appeal to people who want to stay out of town but still be in city limits. In other words, white flighters. If they succeed, then in time there will be many more middle-middle class and upper-middle class residents to move out that way.
Nobody should expect a brand new area to just shoot up and suddenly be filled. This is El Dorado, after all, not some thriving area where there is a competitive housing market. In ten years or so, with some good planning and hopefully, a larger population, maybe Mystic will be big enough to put a full on Country Club type setting out there, with a restaurant and pool and tennis courts in addition to the golf course. Until then, its just a nice golf course.
Old families do play favorites. They have loyalties like anyone else, only with more money and power. It's the way it is, and in my opinion, those families do as much harm as they do good in the town, but there is nothing anyone can do to change that. Definitely no need to get worked up about it. We're a small town with an almost "ruling class" type local aristocracy. This is a corrupt place, though not dangerously corrupt. It is corrupt in the best way possible, if there is such a thing. Come to terms with that and you won't be so surprised when you witness it.
If anyone agrees or disagrees with the corruption comment I say whatever because the rest of this post is dead on correct in every way. I definitely agree with the corruption comment though. We've got a small group of ultra wealthy people in a small town so how could anything think they wouldn't be pulling the strings of the officials we have? But like the poster said, we're corrupt in the "best way possible", meaning our form of corruption isn't as bad as in a lot of other places, but its still corrupt.

I also agree that Mystic Creek is brand new and nobody should expect it to be in competition with the Country Club until it grows. And it will only grow because of white flight and, if we're lucky, a population increase. Then Mystic will be able to give members a restaurant and other amenities. Until then it shouldn't even be compared to the Country Club. Personally I hope Mystic Creek grows quickly because the Country Club needs some competition so that it will start to actually compete! Right now its the only club we have and the food and services suck. If it had real competition it would have to step up! We used to be members but decided it wasn't worth it anymore.
Killjoy

El Dorado, AR

#46 Aug 6, 2013
Hope to see Mystic Creek competing by 2020. Then again, I hope to see a change in a lot of things that probably won't happen. But theres always a chance!
Killjoy

El Dorado, AR

#47 Aug 6, 2013
Mr. Parks is going to let me watch the golf pro's from over the fence and down wind because I stank, IMAFAG. But, I've got to pick up trash on the highway at night, with a flashlight, so I don't make the players sick from my homo stench during day. Mr. Parks was nice, but he said he would have my ignorantFagAzz shot if I climbed over that fence. I told him I wouldn't be out there that much because I live on topix making IdioticFkingFag comments day and night changing my name every comment. 99% of comments on topix are mine. I'm a welfareFag it that was born a crack baby cause my momma a Hillsboro St. crack Ho. IMAFAG.

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