More than 1,000 dead birds fall from sky in Ark

Jan 2, 2011 Full story: news.yahoo.com 10,153

BEEBE, Ark. Wildlife officials are trying to determine what caused more than 1,000 blackbirds to die and fall from the sky over an Arkansas town.

The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said Saturday that it began receiving reports about the dead birds about 11:30 p.m. the previous night. The birds fell over a 1-mile area of Beebe, and an aerial survey indicated that no other dead birds were found outside of that area. Full Story
Churmudgeon

Cherokee Village, AR

#8963 Feb 14, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
In all seriousness...
There could be two things at play here.
1. You aren't actively out looking for these things. They are still around and you just don't see them.
OR
2. They indeed are disappearing. Many population declines are caused by man either dirctly or indirectly. These are a few of the the main causes of declining wildlife:
1. habitat destruction
2. non-native species
3. pesticides/chemicals
Both bees and caterpillars (future butterflies) are hit hard by pesticides.
Maybe genetically altered seeds have an effect?
Maybe Africanized bees have some negative imapct on honey bees?
Weeds (wildflowers) are mowed down before the butterflies emerge from their Chrysalis?
A combination of all of the above?
It's hard to say, but good question.
http://www.buzzaboutbees.net/missing-bees.htm...
If it's any consolation, on my recent trip to Arkansas, the field at the campground I stayed at was LOADED with Common Buckeyes, many of which were mating. It was a sight to see...really!
I used to keep bees.I had lots of hives from captured wild bees. Mine where mostly three banded Italian and a few german bees. Honey bees are not native to the americas. The honey bees where killed by the Aavorra Mite. Some tame honey bees like the africanized bees are resistant to the aavorra mite.
Churmudgeon

Cherokee Village, AR

#8964 Feb 14, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
That sounds very one-sided to me. Instead of jumping on the "idiots" for doing something so stupid, please become informed of the whole situation before making a decision either way. Have you ever seen a Lesser Prairie Chicken? I didn't think so. If you know nothing about it and never even seen one, how can you make an informed decision?(BTW, Most people don't care about protecting something they have never seen or don't even know exists.) Go find a LPC and watch it for awhile. Then tell me you don't want to protect it. I think you'd find there could be middle ground.
Jobs? What does protecting a bird from extinction have to do with people losing jobs?
Maybe the protection itself could create jobs?
What? Maybe the protection itself could create jobs? Sounds like a liberal commie socialist agenda opinion! Any job created would be parasite work in that it would require tax money and produce nothing that adds to the GNP. And it could very easily cost producing jobs in the timber industry.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8965 Feb 15, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> you cant get to my place from anywhere else. private road behind locked gate. you could go to the national forest around snowball or hasty or camp on the Buffalo ect.
The private road will be fine, thanks. Just leave the gate unlocked.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8966 Feb 15, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Its a cut & paste I ran across. I thought it might be helpful. Im of the opinion that having Know How and being self reliant is more importiant than having a bunch of hoarded goods. Those folks you see on TV seem to take things to the extreme. Ive filled as many 100 pound LP bottles as I could. LP last forever it dont go stale like gas & diesel. I think three months worth of food would be sufficient. Cashe your goods in small amounts at several different hiding places. Ill not kill another human just to protect some material goods or food. It wouldnt hurt much to prepare for a event that never happens. but it would be a disaster if something happened any you wherent prepared.
You may not kill them over your food or goods, but they would damn well not think twice about killing you for them.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8967 Feb 15, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Its a cut & paste I ran across. I thought it might be helpful. Im of the opinion that having Know How and being self reliant is more importiant than having a bunch of hoarded goods. Those folks you see on TV seem to take things to the extreme. Ive filled as many 100 pound LP bottles as I could. LP last forever it dont go stale like gas & diesel. I think three months worth of food would be sufficient. Cashe your goods in small amounts at several different hiding places. Ill not kill another human just to protect some material goods or food. It wouldnt hurt much to prepare for a event that never happens. but it would be a disaster if something happened any you wherent prepared.
What if you must leave your home? Can you use LP gas in your car or truck?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8968 Feb 15, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> I used to keep bees.I had lots of hives from captured wild bees. Mine where mostly three banded Italian and a few german bees. Honey bees are not native to the americas. The honey bees where killed by the Aavorra Mite. Some tame honey bees like the africanized bees are resistant to the aavorra mite.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know honey bees weren't native.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8969 Feb 15, 2013
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> What? Maybe the protection itself could create jobs? Sounds like a liberal commie socialist agenda opinion! Any job created would be parasite work in that it would require tax money and produce nothing that adds to the GNP. And it could very easily cost producing jobs in the timber industry.
No liberal commie agenda at all! It's just a common sense solution to a problem.

In the Texas Hill Country, there are two endangered birds; the Black-capped Vireo and the Golden-cheeked Warbler. They are a huge attraction to bird watchers all over the world. Just the fact that people go there specifically to see those two species brings in tons of cash to that region of Texas each year.

It creates jobs too. Campgrounds are full, motels, bed and breakfasts, grocery stores, gift shops and restaurants see more business. Auto and RV mechanics are needed. Ranchers make money by charging fees to see wildlife on their property. check this out:
http://www.king-ranch.com/nature_tours.html

More state park people and naturalists are hired, etc. We have even needed to visit health clinics and veterinarians while on the road. Most are private sector jobs with the locals making the profits.

Tourism, including bird and wildlife watching tourism, creates jobs and brings in revenue!

http://www.fs.fed.us/outdoors/naturewatch/sta...

Protection of the Lesser Prairie Chicken should have no impact on timber. It does not live in the forest. Timbering will continue.

http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/sp...

A win-win for the humans and the birds.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8970 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Newsflash: He does!
Not me, I am FREE!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8971 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
On another note, I know a woman, now in her nineties, that was a bird watcher her whole life. She told me that when she was a young lady, there were so many more birds than there are now. The two examples she used were Indigo Buntings and Blackburnian Warblers.
She would spend the summers in Michigan's Upper Peninsula back then. Indigo Buntings were so abundant that on any given day, one could look outside at the food thrown on the ground and there was an easy 50 or 60 buntings hopping around picking up scraps. Now you are lucky to see 3 or 4 buntings at the same time.
During spring migration when the warblers were passing through this area, one could easily find 15 Blackburnian Warblers in one tree on a good day of birding. Now we are VERY LUCKY if we see 15 during the whole month of May when they pass through this area.
There used to be a lot of Dinasours roaming earth also!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8972 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
No liberal commie agenda at all! It's just a common sense solution to a problem.
In the Texas Hill Country, there are two endangered birds; the Black-capped Vireo and the Golden-cheeked Warbler. They are a huge attraction to bird watchers all over the world. Just the fact that people go there specifically to see those two species brings in tons of cash to that region of Texas each year.
It creates jobs too. Campgrounds are full, motels, bed and breakfasts, grocery stores, gift shops and restaurants see more business. Auto and RV mechanics are needed. Ranchers make money by charging fees to see wildlife on their property. check this out:
http://www.king-ranch.com/nature_tours.html
More state park people and naturalists are hired, etc. We have even needed to visit health clinics and veterinarians while on the road. Most are private sector jobs with the locals making the profits.
Tourism, including bird and wildlife watching tourism, creates jobs and brings in revenue!
http://www.fs.fed.us/outdoors/naturewatch/sta...
Protection of the Lesser Prairie Chicken should have no impact on timber. It does not live in the forest. Timbering will continue.
http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/sp...
A win-win for the humans and the birds.
It's not the impact on the forest people are worried about. That chicken needs to be eaten!
Pee stain mattress

United States

#8973 Feb 15, 2013
No one gives a big flying f*ck!!! Shut the f*ck up about the God Damn birds!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8974 Feb 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>There used to be a lot of Dinasours roaming earth also!
There is nothing we can do about natural cataclysmic events that happened in the past. There IS something we can do about our own actions. Would you be happy to see the last Blackburnian Warbler drop dead? It would probably would be irrelevent to you....because you have never seen one alive and in the wild. I have. That changes my whole perspective. You need to get out more.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8975 Feb 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the impact on the forest people are worried about. That chicken needs to be eaten!
Eaten to extinction? That's Smart! NOT!
I'd prefer it be protected, it's numbers increased, taken off the threatened or endangered list, and hunted for food responsibly if that's what people so choose to eat.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8976 Feb 15, 2013
Pee stain mattress wrote:
No one gives a big flying f*ck!!! Shut the f*ck up about the God Damn birds!
Maybe you could pee on one..
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8977 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
There is nothing we can do about natural cataclysmic events that happened in the past. There IS something we can do about our own actions. Would you be happy to see the last Blackburnian Warbler drop dead? It would probably would be irrelevent to you....because you have never seen one alive and in the wild. I have. That changes my whole perspective. You need to get out more.
You know things go extinct everyday and new species are discovered everyday! It is the cycle of life. I am a "good people" first type of guy yet I realize that even people will go extinct from this planet one day. To answer your question, No I would not be happy if that Blackburnian Warbler dropped dead. It would not bother me in the least bit if he did though. And how do you know I have never seen one?
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8978 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Eaten to extinction? That's Smart! NOT!
I'd prefer it be protected, it's numbers increased, taken off the threatened or endangered list, and hunted for food responsibly if that's what people so choose to eat.
I would prefer it take it's chances on life like the rest of us do. I say drill in that grass land they inhabit and bring down the price of fuel. If that chicken is hardy he will survive if not then he deserves to die..

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8979 Feb 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>You know things go extinct everyday and new species are discovered everyday! It is the cycle of life. I am a "good people" first type of guy yet I realize that even people will go extinct from this planet one day. To answer your question, No I would not be happy if that Blackburnian Warbler dropped dead. It would not bother me in the least bit if he did though. And how do you know I have never seen one?
That doesn't mean we need to contribute, through our reckless actions, to the numbers of extinct species, when it is SO EASY to avoid those extinctions.

I know for a FACT you have never seen one, unless you have been searching the tree canopies in the coniferous forests in the northeastern US and Canada in spring or summer.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#8980 Feb 15, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I would prefer it take it's chances on life like the rest of us do. I say drill in that grass land they inhabit and bring down the price of fuel. If that chicken is hardy he will survive if not then he deserves to die..
I agree with you on the drilling. We should be drilling everywhere. Regardless of what the uneducated whacko extremist environmentalists say, drilling CAN be done safely with little effect on the local wildlife. I do not agree though that anything DESERVES to die. That's just a cruel statement.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8981 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't mean we need to contribute, through our reckless actions, to the numbers of extinct species, when it is SO EASY to avoid those extinctions.
I know for a FACT you have never seen one, unless you have been searching the tree canopies in the coniferous forests in the northeastern US and Canada in spring or summer.
I have traveled all over the world on business and pleasure. My two favorite bird places are New Zeland and Austrailia. Don't be so sure I haven't seen that bird and seen more birds that you ever have!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#8982 Feb 15, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you on the drilling. We should be drilling everywhere. Regardless of what the uneducated whacko extremist environmentalists say, drilling CAN be done safely with little effect on the local wildlife. I do not agree though that anything DESERVES to die. That's just a cruel statement.
Terrorist deserve to die and Child Molestors.

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