Monumental Waste
T Bird

United States

#24 Dec 8, 2012
just saying wrote:
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Needed?.......for?......
All the visitors that come from out of town, dumbass. Apparently, you either didn't read or can't comprehend.
TRUTH

Alba, TX

#26 Dec 8, 2012
I love this kind of stuff, lets break it down. To fix a problem you have to get at the root of the problem, or the fix is just temporary. This rule applies to everything. First of all, why is El Dorado even here? From what I know, it's oil, old oil families in a town with a railroad running through it. Then came the Murphy Oil, the refinerys and the waste disposal plants.(fast forward) Then, with the computer age at hand, all the jobs man used to do are now done by hitech computer programs, and there go "the jobs". So now, here we are, what do we have to offer anyone looking for a place to come, say, after college, with there new wife (or single) and build a life?
I can imagine them sitting at the table discussing El Dorado....what do they have? a riverwalk? no, malls? no, a mountain with a view? no,(I'm going on what the guy said when he tried to compare El Doradao to Little Rock, Shreveport and Hot Springs, theres no need to compare us to any bigger cities, right?) So, what's to do there?,,,,uhmmmm, nothing...... I don't see that its anyones fault, or that there is any solution, it just is what it is, El Dorado and the region offer nothing, and nothing you can build will ever compare to the things Little Rock, Shreveport and Hot Springs have to offer, not to mention the bigger cities.........El Dorado is just a old oil town built here in the sandy loam flat lands because some people found oil here and it had a railroad, but as I stated earlier, the jobs that people could come here for have been replaced by computers and such, naturally, so we're left with??? Flat sandy loam and a dirty river (miles away),,,that's it. Theres nothing here to attract anyone, and I sure don't see how some monuments and signs will help. I never understood the Convention Center either. You can't buy the types of attractions that would cause people to come here by the masses..........I got stuck here, so to speak, but I plan to live out my retirement years elsewhere, NYC perhaps, even at poverty level I could atleast walk up and down the street and be entertained for free. NYC is what it is because its one of the first major port cities by the sea, right? See, location is everything, like they say :). I don't dislike El Dorado for any one reason, it just is what it is. I do dislike the "downtown El Dorado cliche" spending my tax dollars on such a narrow minded worthless cause. And T Bird, if you're one of the people involved in development of this fine city, I can just imagine what kind of impression you're giving someone considering moving here, suppose they surf the El Dorado Topix Forum to see what's going on here, and see your classy post, wondering if you're someone leading this city???? Gosh, you caused us a new member man! ROFLMAO @ U
TRUTH

Alba, TX

#27 Dec 8, 2012
T Bird wrote:
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All the visitors that come from out of town, dumbass. Apparently, you either didn't read or can't comprehend.
oh ok,,,, but tell me, what would some monuments and signs do for a visitor to El Dorado? OH! wait!, do they have braille inspriptions for the blind people driving through? LOL! What do monuments and signs do for the so called future "growth" of El Dorado?
T Bird

United States

#28 Dec 9, 2012
To self-proclaimed "TRUTH" -

Thats where your problem lies. Assuming. You assume everyone wants to live in some big town like NYC, just like you assume I have something to do with the decisions. Classy posts????? Need I remind you that you're on topix???? Nothing classy about this site. Never will be, just like nothing's ever going to change the scenary here. That, I agree with. However, you know the saying "can't see the forest for the trees?" That's right. Instead of calling you narrow-minded, I'm going to ask you to expand your thoughts. First, I never "compared" El Dorado to little Rock, Hot Springs, etc. I said that they had such things that you, well not necessarily you, but the other "classy" complainers, are upset about. You all totally missed my point. But luckily you all aren't the ones making decisions around here either. That point was that, since they have nice things, why can't we???? You said it yourself that El Dorado has old oil and chemical companies to offer in a flat sandy loam. So do we just accept this and continue to dwindle???? Or, with the help of those who want our economy to improve (taxpayers), do we focus on a niche market that has shown results in other communities for generating high revenues while creating new job opportunities in surrounding industries???? Let's face it: manufacturing jobs are going overseas. We are not getting that here. Why would a big company want to move to this drug-infested workforce???? So, the people that are in the position to make decisions have found a niche market that has proven to be a job creator. Also, these jobs will not be salary-paid, sending the bigger profits back to HQ in Seattle, Austin, New York, wherever. These profits will remain here for small business owners. If our local workforce misses an opportunity, someone else will move in and take it. But, as you also fail to see, this idea is not about growing our population. It's about attracting outside visitors to El Dorado to spend their money here. Why would people that live here need signs to point them where to go? This is not narrow minded; it is creative. The goal looks to be that the free entertainment that you want in NYC could be had here, but on a smaller scale, while creating new job opportunities. It has never been about population. The quality of a town is not based on census. Many people prefer a small town to a big city. That's why people from NYC that have lived there all of their lives might look to El Dorado when THEY retire, to get out of the crowds or whatever. This should have been civil enough for you.
T Bird

United States

#29 Dec 9, 2012
TRUTH wrote:
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oh ok,,,, but tell me, what would some monuments and signs do for a visitor to El Dorado? OH! wait!, do they have braille inspriptions for the blind people driving through? LOL! What do monuments and signs do for the so called future "growth" of El Dorado?
Please find your answer in my post above. And, fyi, blind people shouldn't be driving, so I'm not betting that braille will be included on any sign or monument. Again, I don't believe this idea has anything to do with the "future growth of El Dorado," other than growing future money flow.
Whatever

El Dorado, AR

#30 Dec 9, 2012
But wouldn't it be smarter to take this large sum of money and use it to actually improve the gateways into the town? Why spend that much money on signs, etc. when there are run down areas on every entryway into the city? Drive into the town from north, east, south and west and you will see the first impression that visitors to El Dorado will get.
actually

United States

#31 Dec 9, 2012
Whatever wrote:
But wouldn't it be smarter to take this large sum of money and use it to actually improve the gateways into the town? Why spend that much money on signs, etc. when there are run down areas on every entryway into the city? Drive into the town from north, east, south and west and you will see the first impression that visitors to El Dorado will get.
From what I read, that also looks to be part of the plan. But you do have the touchy situation of dealing with property owners. So Im curious to see how in depth theyll get.
Topper

El Dorado, AR

#32 Dec 9, 2012
T Bird wrote:
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I'd put every dime your suga momma gives me of your hard earned money dipshit.
Right back at you.

Why is it that you want to appear to be so "in the loop" and be so educated but you can't make a post without name calling someone? Small e-tough little man maybe? If you're as smart as you pretend to be you wouldn't be calling people dumbasses and other names for having an opinion just like you do.
Topper

Irving, TX

#33 Dec 9, 2012
T Bird wrote:
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You're wrong. You have no merit other than YOUR DUMBASS OPINION. I know you can't understand that, as you apparently have no education or experience in community development. Three census numbers are not an example, numbnuts.
Fyi, I know many people that grew up here and have chosen to make El Dorado their home. Again, YOUR DUMBASS OPINION is wrong.
Case and point. Anyone else with an opinion contrary to yours is a dumbass. To us, your dumbass opinion is wrong and you're the dumbass. See how easily that works?
WatchDog

El Dorado, AR

#34 Dec 9, 2012
TRUTH wrote:
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oh ok,,,, but tell me, what would some monuments and signs do for a visitor to El Dorado? OH! wait!, do they have braille inspriptions for the blind people driving through? LOL! What do monuments and signs do for the so called future "growth" of El Dorado?
You got it right. I attend events in other cities and have never needed (or noticed) any monument to help me find where I was going.

People today have GPS, Mapquest, Google, etc. to get directions before they leave home.

You can put a neon sign on an outhouse door, but it's still an outhouse.
WatchDog

El Dorado, AR

#35 Dec 9, 2012
T Bird wrote:
Why would a big company want to move to this drug-infested workforce???? The goal looks to be that the free entertainment that you want in NYC could be had here, but on a smaller scale, while creating new job opportunities.
You are creating new job opportunities for a drug infested work force?
Topper

El Dorado, AR

#36 Dec 9, 2012
The people are just going to flock in to visit all the way overpriced stores on the square and listen to some band that no one has ever heard of. Watchdog, you have said it all and put it in a much better way that T Bird who can only call people dumbasses if they don't agree with him. Well said.
WatchDog

El Dorado, AR

#37 Dec 9, 2012
Whatever wrote:
But wouldn't it be smarter to take this large sum of money and use it to actually improve the gateways into the town? Why spend that much money on signs, etc. when there are run down areas on every entryway into the city? Drive into the town from north, east, south and west and you will see the first impression that visitors to El Dorado will get.
Correct! First impression (in daylight) and last impression (after dark) as they roll up windows & lock doors on way out!
CleverCat

United States

#38 Dec 9, 2012
WatchDog wrote:
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You got it right. I attend events in other cities and have never needed (or noticed) any monument to help me find where I was going.
People today have GPS, Mapquest, Google, etc. to get directions before they leave home.
You can put a neon sign on an outhouse door, but it's still an outhouse.
Apparently, you should pay more attention to your surroundings. Have you not noticed monuments and direction signs in other towns? They're everywhere! This idea is to cater to old people, not people that use GPS, Mapquest, or Google. Old people have the money: it is spent to convenience them.
CleverCat

United States

#39 Dec 9, 2012
WatchDog wrote:
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You are creating new job opportunities for a drug infested work force?
Think you need to reread that post. The jobs that he or she is referring to are not the type of jobs that drugheads will work. It'd take too much effort. The manufacturing jobs won't move here due to a drug-infested workforce. This point, I agree with.
CleverCat

United States

#40 Dec 9, 2012
WatchDog wrote:
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Correct! First impression (in daylight) and last impression (after dark) as they roll up windows & lock doors on way out!
Correct! Which is why this idea is being implemented! It will clean up the gateways into and out of town. So you support the agenda?
T Byrd

United States

#41 Dec 9, 2012
Topper wrote:
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Right back at you.
Why is it that you want to appear to be so "in the loop" and be so educated but you can't make a post without name calling someone? Small e-tough little man maybe? If you're as smart as you pretend to be you wouldn't be calling people dumbasses and other names for having an opinion just like you do.
Whenever you ready to meat up biatch! I show you how E Tough dumbass!
I know

United States

#42 Dec 9, 2012
T Byrd wrote:
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Whenever you ready to meat up biatch! I show you how E Tough dumbass!
Meat up? You are an idiot and all future posts from this moron should be ignored!!!!
Topper

El Dorado, AR

#43 Dec 9, 2012
I know wrote:
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Meat up? You are an idiot and all future posts from this moron should be ignored!!!!
Pretty much what I was thinking. The idiot doesn't have the good sense to realize what a situation he would be getting himself in. But then again he changed his screen name from T Bird to T Byrd. So probably another troll. He lost all credibility with me when he has to call everyone else a dumbass because they don't share his opinion. If he was that smart he could make his point without name calling.
wow

United States

#44 Dec 9, 2012
Topper wrote:
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Pretty much what I was thinking. The idiot doesn't have the good sense to realize what a situation he would be getting himself in. But then again he changed his screen name from T Bird to T Byrd. So probably another troll. He lost all credibility with me when he has to call everyone else a dumbass because they don't share his opinion. If he was that smart he could make his point without name calling.
You look to Topix for credibility, and you dismiss the intelligence of someone else? Smdh.

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