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Blytheville, AR

#21107 Jan 23, 2013
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>They are being paid to do a job that they may or may not do well. They are not paid to figure out hoYour so called people that you know that deal directly with the oil such as drilling and pipelines know nothing further than what their job requires them to do. They know how to drill and where to drill for oil. They DO NOT know how much oil sits underneath the united states and off it's shores. w much oil is able to be drilled, they are there to drill and thats what they do. The company that they work for may or may not know the figures behind what lies beneath the U.S. or off its shores. The researchers and scientist;however, do KNOW what lies beneath and off shores because that is THEIR JOB. Your scenario implies that the drillers know more than the scientist is the same as asking an employee at Mcdonalds drive thru what the stock outlook for 10 years is projected for the company, they do not and would not know. Don't believe me ask the next one you come too. My suggestion to you is if you DO NOT believe in science then why are you using it and involved in it everyday? Everything around you even your body was discovered, learned about, and developed through what? Science! I do not support the theory of the big bang and would like further research done to prove those scientific theories, but i do believe in the research behind them. Physics, chemistry, biology, and other sciences are taught everyday in school and are accepted by our culture as being accurate in far more fields than they are inaccurate. If you do not believe in science then you should NOT go to a doctor, because everything they do and have been taught revolves around such. There are many ways to disprove your thinking and simple minded thesis.
How do you know what they know? Do you know them?
No one has a more fitting name on here than you.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21108 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>It was an operation conducted by FEDS dumb ass. Do you know what FEDS are? You are the stupidest person to ever post on topix. It is still an on going investigation because obama and holder have swept it under the rug. You are an idiot. Terry was killed in Arizona and Zapata was killed in Mexico. This administration has blood on their hands and you support those who kill Americans pure and simple.
The hearings are OVER not postponed for a later date and are NOT currently ongoing. The feds, and by feds i mean FBI, were in charge of the investigation of the incident. The ATF was conducting and have been for years a series of sting operations that were even going on under president Bush. This was one that went wrong and was misshandled on the state and local levels and accountability and firings along with other proceedures have been taken against several individuals ranging from the local all the way up to those involved in the ATF. As much as you would like to believe that somehow erik holder or the president were directly involved and that someday later they will be held for the murders of those boarder patrol agents you are believing in false interpertations and hopes.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21109 Jan 23, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know what they know? Do you know them?
No one has a more fitting name on here than you.
You do not have to know the individuals directly to understand economics and the way people work. The last time i checked my name means to know something so thank you.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#21110 Jan 23, 2013
The Cabbit wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. I wasn't always a Christian. Growing up as a child. In a Christian household. I was taught the earth was only 5000 years old. I of course believed it. I went to a Christian school. So they only taught creationism, but then they taught erosion. The force that tore down mountain and dug river canyons. I immediately thought of the grand canyon. The time it took for that canyon was well over 5000 years. It took me many years to come to the conclusion that God and nature are one and the same. So why should he/she/it work outside the natural. So for me to understand nature is to understand God.
I choose not to push my faith on others and just less by example. Listen to there side, and try to love them or at least tolerate them.
So no I have not have a but bias that I wish to push on people. I could be wrong though. I would like to hear back from anybody. That had an opinion on this matter.
I am agnostic. I believe anyone has the freedom and right to believe in whatever type of religion they wish as long as they do not force thoe opinions or religious views onto anyone and commend them for their believes. I may not agree with what they believe in but i do agree that they have the right to believe anything they want without someone judging their opinions or views.
kathy

Ash Flat, AR

#21111 Jan 23, 2013
amen sista
Observer

Jonesboro, AR

#21112 Jan 23, 2013
The Cabbit wrote:
<quoted text>
No source. Ok. Lets see hmm... Ah yes. The jihadwatch.com . I see you copy paste very well. I prefer to get my news from a less bias source.
Get your news from Barney then, he is not bi-assed, he is half-assed

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21113 Jan 23, 2013
The Cabbit wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. I wasn't always a Christian. Growing up as a child. In a Christian household. I was taught the earth was only 5000 years old. I of course believed it. I went to a Christian school. So they only taught creationism, but then they taught erosion. The force that tore down mountain and dug river canyons. I immediately thought of the grand canyon. The time it took for that canyon was well over 5000 years. It took me many years to come to the conclusion that God and nature are one and the same. So why should he/she/it work outside the natural. So for me to understand nature is to understand God.
I choose not to push my faith on others and just less by example. Listen to there side, and try to love them or at least tolerate them.
So no I have not have a but bias that I wish to push on people. I could be wrong though. I would like to hear back from anybody. That had an opinion on this matter.
Never thought you were pushing at all, matter of fact I think your thoughts on religion is unique and interesting.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#21114 Jan 23, 2013
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>Your so called people that you know that deal directly with the oil such as drilling and pipelines know nothing further than what their job requires them to do. They know how to drill and where to drill for oil. They DO NOT know how much oil sits underneath the united states and off it's shores. They are being paid to do a job that they may or may not do well. They are not paid to figure out how much oil is able to be drilled, they are there to drill and thats what they do. The company that they work for may or may not know the figures behind what lies beneath the U.S. or off its shores. The researchers and scientist;however, do KNOW what lies beneath and off shores because that is THEIR JOB. Your scenario implies that the drillers know more than the scientist is the same as asking an employee at Mcdonalds drive thru what the stock outlook for 10 years is projected for the company, they do not and would not know. Don't believe me ask the next one you come too. My suggestion to you is if you DO NOT believe in science then why are you using it and involved in it everyday? Everything around you even your body was discovered, learned about, and developed through what? Science! I do not support the theory of the big bang and would like further research done to prove those scientific theories, but i do believe in the research behind them. Physics, chemistry, biology, and other sciences are taught everyday in school and are accepted by our culture as being accurate in far more fields than they are inaccurate. If you do not believe in science then you should NOT go to a doctor, because everything they do and have been taught revolves around such. There are many ways to disprove your thinking and simple minded thesis.
There are analyst on site to run the numbers (the actual numbers) on the wells when they are drilled. I never said I didn't believe in science because I do. Believing in science isn't an all-or-nothing proposition. I believe that science is very important to our society but only on tangible things. When you get into the theoretical aspects you start to lose me because without concrete tangible information that can be measured as it happens, the accuracy rate is less reliable. You may agree with everything science offers up so you will be wrong far more than you will be right and you will continue to have to change your position on things like the science community does.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21119 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I guess they died of a Heart Attack you idiot! Have your mammy read it for you........
Plain and simple numb nuts,

They could not match the bullet that killed the agent to any gun involved in the operation, or any guns found at the scene.

If you can prove that wrong----------SHOW ME!


Love2BASlave

Springdale, AR

#21120 Jan 23, 2013
Don't you dare dis our first black Lincoln.

The "Anointed One" is the best thing that has happened to America since that old white guy Lincoln was around.

Love2BASlave

Springdale, AR

#21121 Jan 23, 2013
Barry Soetoro/aka Barack Hussein Obama, MMM, MMM, MMM.

Our Lord and Savior.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21128 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Hey IDIOT. Brian Terry was a Border Patrol Agent and Javier Zapata was an ICE Agent both FEDERAL AGENTS. No local, county or state agencies were involved. The report of the investigation has not been released yet because it is not complete. Holder and Obama have swept it under the rug. Both have blood on their hands. You make things up in an attempt to appear educated. We can tell by your writing that you are at best 7th grade educated. You have no idea what you are talking about. Good God I never ever met anybody as stupid as you. With all due respect of course!
"The report of the investigation has not been released yet because it is not complete"

Really, what do call this NUMB NUTS:

New Fast & Furious Report Finds Widespread Justice Department Management Failures

Final Report Part 2 of 3 on Failed Gun Walking Operation

October 29, 2012 - Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, today released the second installment of their final report on Operation Fast and Furious. This report chronicles the U.S. Department of Justice’s management failures, specifically finding fault with five senior Justice Department officials for failing to identify red flags indicating reckless tactics.

“The report discloses widespread management failures within the hierarchy of the Justice Department,” said Issa.“The Justice Department has yet to evaluate these management issues and implement structural changes to prevent another disaster like Operation Fast and Furious from occurring. Furthermore, the Justice Department has taken limited action against these negligent managers.”

Click here to read the full report.

http://issues.oversight.house.gov/fastandfuri...

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21129 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Two serial numbered guns that the ATF allowed to be smuggled into Mexico were found at the scene of Brian Terry. One of those weapons was balistically traced back to wounds Terry sustained in the gun battle. You are Anti-American and an idiot.
Prove me wrong commie!
"balistically traced"
Let us see your source of information to this.
Where might I find the ballistics report?
Observer

Jonesboro, AR

#21130 Jan 23, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
"The report of the investigation has not been released yet because it is not complete"
Really, what do call this NUMB NUTS:
New Fast & Furious Report Finds Widespread Justice Department Management Failures
Final Report Part 2 of 3 on Failed Gun Walking Operation
October 29, 2012 - Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, today released the second installment of their final report on Operation Fast and Furious. This report chronicles the U.S. Department of Justice’s management failures, specifically finding fault with five senior Justice Department officials for failing to identify red flags indicating reckless tactics.
“The report discloses widespread management failures within the hierarchy of the Justice Department,” said Issa.“The Justice Department has yet to evaluate these management issues and implement structural changes to prevent another disaster like Operation Fast and Furious from occurring. Furthermore, the Justice Department has taken limited action against these negligent managers.”
Click here to read the full report.
http://issues.oversight.house.gov/fastandfuri...
Actually we call you Numb Nutz and several other flattering names. As long as you can fill our orders we don't really care what you are called, you just need not be so noisy, you may never make shift leader.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21131 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
http://tucsoncitizen.com/view- from-baja-arizona/2011/09/02/c bs-nails-atf-coverup-attempt-o n-guns-found-at-brian-terrys-m urder-scene/
Heres one from a libtard network little barnyard.
It said guns were found on site, did not say they were used did it.

It did not say that they had any eye witness as how those guns got there either did they?

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21132 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/09/ex...
Eat that shyt talker!
What YA say, lets put your bull shit aside and cut straight to the chase?

So, it appears to be undisputed that two Fast and Furious guns were present at Terry's killing.

And what of the ballistics testing?

The only information we found about ballistics testing and Terry's death was an FBI report completed shortly after the shooting. The report, dated Dec. 23, 2010, says that the bullet that killed Terry could have been fired from the kind of guns that were found at the scene but that "firearms examinations" could not determine if the bullet came from either of the found weapons.

The report — posted online July 26, 2011, by the Times and described in a story the next day — says the bullet "was fired from a barrel rifled with four grooves, right twist, such as the K2 and K3 rifles" — the guns found at the scene. "However," the report says, "due to a lack of sufficient agreement in the individual microscopic marks of value, it could not be determined if the … bullet was fired from the barrel of the K2 or K3 rifles."

Neither the FBI nor the U.S. attorney's office in San Diego, which is handling the Terry case, would comment to us about ballistics tests.

Finally, we talked with the House oversight committee and Grassley's office.

Becca Watkins, a spokeswoman for committee Chairman Issa, told us that the Times' reporting about the FBI report was accurate, although she said the committee is waiting for the Justice Department to respond to requests for more information. "The ballistics report for the guns recovered at Agent Terry's crime scene do not rule out the Operation Fast and Furious guns as the weapon in his death," she said. But she suggested that it wasn't accurate to say that the report confirmed one of them was responsible for his death.

At a Dec. 8, 2011, hearing of the House Judiciary Committee, U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, asked Holder whether the department had "identified the weapon that actually killed Agent Terry." Holder replied that he was "not prepared to talk about that" because the investigation is ongoing.

Our ruling

By all accounts, Fast and Furious weapons were found at the scene of a U.S. agent's death. Dewhurst's campaign was emphatic, though, that ballistics tests confirmed that the weapons killed the agent. We found no information indicating that's so. Dewhurst's statement rates False.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/20...

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21133 Jan 23, 2013
Hey WARRIOR,

CHECK MATE

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21134 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
http://tucsoncitizen.com/view- from-baja-arizona/2011/09/02/c bs-nails-atf-coverup-attempt-o n-guns-found-at-brian-terrys-m urder-scene/
Heres one from a libtard network little barnyard.
LMAO, Yep, you trying to pass off bull shit again!!!!!!

The FBI has made clear that reports of a third gun recovered from the perpetrators at the scene of Agent Terry’s murder are false,” the department said in a statement Monday.
This comes one day after Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, appeared on a Sunday morning news show and noted that a now-public FBI ballistics report labeled two guns tied to “Fast and Furious” as “K2&#8243; and “K3,” but “there’s no ‘Ticket 1.’”
“One weapon has a ’2,’ one has a ’3,’ on it. There’s no ’1,’” Issa said on CBS.“When agents who were at Brian Terry’s funeral made statements to his mother indicating that there were three weapons, when the two weapons that they have tested don’t conclusively match up [to the bullet that killed Terry], then you look and say,‘Well, was there a third weapon at the scene?’”

http://www.infowars.com/justice-dept-accuses-...

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21135 Jan 23, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Two serial numbered guns that the ATF allowed to be smuggled into Mexico were found at the scene of Brian Terry. One of those weapons was balistically traced back to wounds Terry sustained in the gun battle. You are Anti-American and an idiot.
Prove me wrong commie!
NO Problem,

So, it appears to be undisputed that two Fast and Furious guns were present at Terry's killing.

And what of the ballistics testing?

The only information we found about ballistics testing and Terry's death was an FBI report completed shortly after the shooting. The report, dated Dec. 23, 2010, says that the bullet that killed Terry could have been fired from the kind of guns that were found at the scene but that "firearms examinations" could not determine if the bullet came from either of the found weapons.

The report — posted online July 26, 2011, by the Times and described in a story the next day — says the bullet "was fired from a barrel rifled with four grooves, right twist, such as the K2 and K3 rifles" — the guns found at the scene. "However," the report says, "due to a lack of sufficient agreement in the individual microscopic marks of value, it could not be determined if the … bullet was fired from the barrel of the K2 or K3 rifles."

Neither the FBI nor the U.S. attorney's office in San Diego, which is handling the Terry case, would comment to us about ballistics tests.

Finally, we talked with the House oversight committee and Grassley's office.

Becca Watkins, a spokeswoman for committee Chairman Issa, told us that the Times' reporting about the FBI report was accurate, although she said the committee is waiting for the Justice Department to respond to requests for more information. "The ballistics report for the guns recovered at Agent Terry's crime scene do not rule out the Operation Fast and Furious guns as the weapon in his death," she said. But she suggested that it wasn't accurate to say that the report confirmed one of them was responsible for his death.

At a Dec. 8, 2011, hearing of the House Judiciary Committee, U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, asked Holder whether the department had "identified the weapon that actually killed Agent Terry." Holder replied that he was "not prepared to talk about that" because the investigation is ongoing.

Our ruling

By all accounts, Fast and Furious weapons were found at the scene of a U.S. agent's death. Dewhurst's campaign was emphatic, though, that ballistics tests confirmed that the weapons killed the agent. We found no information indicating that's so. Dewhurst's statement rates False.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/20...

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#21136 Jan 23, 2013
Post Turtle wrote:
I guess obama thinks his Socialist utopia will be better. He fashions himself savior of the poor and disenfranchised. Like most liberals, he does not want to accept the harsh realities of life. He made it under America's "unfair" system, so that makes him a hypocrite by wanting to "fundamentally transform" America. As for Obama's family, they will have it made, no matter how horrible the economic conditions get. His plans already in place, and those yet to come, will also crush the very people he is claiming to help. All it takes for our economy to go into turmoil is the Arab countries refuse to take U.S. dollars for payment for oil or China to refuse to lend us more money. Obama seems to be sincere in helping the downtrodden, but I believe he works for those who are trying to bring about a New World Order. He is a very dangerous man.

Is this where/what you would like to start a "point-counterpoint" debate" with?

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