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Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20823 Jan 17, 2013
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>i like the way you think good sir.. but head start does need to be revised to be more productive rather than becomming a government paid daycare.
All true, but name me a government program that doesn't need revision.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20824 Jan 17, 2013
Barneyisaheadstartbaby wrote:
Head Start is an $8 billion per year federal preschool program, designed to improve the kindergarten readiness of low-income children. Since its inception in 1965, taxpayers have spent more than $180 billion on the program.
If you or any one else care to read the report for your self here is the link.

http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xmlui/bitst...

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dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#20825 Jan 17, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a matter of what a doctor "thinks" someone has a right to own. It absolutely IS their right to own a gun.
With all this talk about criminals and psychos not being able to own guns, I ask you this: IF someone is a psycho, or a criminal, why are they walking the streets and posing a threat to begin with? But........ We can't change what is.
The fact is, they ARE walking the streets. Who determines someone to be one or to what level, and if they are a danger, could be debated. I've seen democrats call republicans psychos and vice versa.
If a criminal, or a psycho, is walking down the street, or even in his home, and he is attacked by some thug, does that individual have a right to defend himself like any other citizen would? Why not? Are they less human than the rest of the population?
Should not we ALL bear arms? Because as long as we ALL are in society, there is the risk of anyone being a victim, whether we are a criminal, ex-criminal, never been a criminal, or a psycho in another humans mind- who may or may not be wrong in their diagnosis.
The fact still remains, if someone wants a gun bad enough, they will get it regardless of what any background check shows.
psychos and criminals are walking the streets because there is no law against being a psycho or criminal genius..mental health checks and other funding and considerations are being takin into account for better ways to determin if someone is mentally unstable and ways to help them get treatment, and criminals have already served their time and are not subject to search just for being a criminal unless commiting or involved in suspicious or malicious behavior, any other type of search would be profiling and harrasment by law enforcement. and your answer for your STRONG defending of the mentally unstable and ex-cons or criminals to own guns is hell NO they don't deserve the right to own a gun, and YES they are considered different poeple to the american populous. charles manson does not deserve the right to own a gun and he is BOTH a psycho and a criminal. My brother does NOT deserve the right to own a gun and he is a criminal. There are certain laws that have been inacted and repeat offenders against those laws when they know better deserve to lose their rights, or first time offenders of a major offense such as murderers,we do not promote the growth of ignorance in this country even though you are a prime example of such. Your strong argument of we don't need the laws on guns because they will not work, is not working. If that was the case then why should we have laws against murdering someone? why should we have laws against speeding or stealing? why should we have laws against rape or child mollestation? all of those things happen everyday, we haven't stopped all of those things so what good are the laws? that is the same argument you have been making against gun violence and is a bad argument to come out with. if they pass legislation like they are talking about for everyone to have guns registered and private sells to incorporate background checks and registration, that clip sizes be reduced to 7 rounds and assault weapons ban that was enacted in the 90s re-enacted, and a broader definition of the word assault rifle and mental illness, along with better and more intensive mental health checks, may NOT stop ALL the problem but it WILL HELP. all laws have to start somewhere."A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." that is your 2nd amendment and you have the right to bear arms as they seen fit back then which was guns, no rocket launchers or assault rifels that can fire off 50-100 rounds a minute, and the first statement is "A well regulated Militia". Regulation is what we are trying to do and will accomplish so quit crying about it and get over it.
dont know nothin

Yakima, WA

#20826 Jan 17, 2013
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
All true, but name me a government program that doesn't need revision.
i concur all government entitlements need to looked at and revised to be more efficient and cost effective.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20827 Jan 17, 2013
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
Could be, but since only 5% of Americans make more the $100,000 a year in individual income, it stands to reason a good deal of them support Republicans....maybe even more than half.
Whatcha think?
Your guess is as good as mine and that's all it is, a SWAG, Scientific Wild Ass Guess.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20828 Jan 17, 2013
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see, a F-22 fighter costs approximately 412 million each.
Children represent 24 percent of the population. Yet, they comprise 34 percent of all people in poverty. Among all children under 18, 44 percent live in low-income families and approximately one in every five (21 percent) live in poor families.
Let's see, a F-22 fighter costs approximately 412 million each.
The Air Force says the F-22 cost $44,259 per flying hour in 2008; the Office of the Secretary of Defense said the figure was $49,808.
Say we average paying a little over four billion a year on Heads-Start in 48 years, so you say we should abolish Head-start and instead buy another 10 F-22's, not counting, fuel, maintenance, and training a year.
Something needs to be put on the chopping block for sure.
If this country and the "children" aren't protected from the evil that lurks in the world, their financial status will be irrelevent. What's ironic is poor children often are happier than those kids who have everything.

As far as Head Start, PARENTS need to be raising and nurturing their "babies," not pushing them into cognitive competition with the Chinese or anyone else. Let them be kids, for Heaven's sake!

My guess is most people here on Topix never wet to Head Start or any of those other kiddie programs and we turned out okay.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20829 Jan 17, 2013
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>i like the way you think good sir.. but head start does need to be revised to be more productive rather than becomming a government paid daycare.
How about loving, teaching and nurturing your own babies, toddlers and small children as the revision that needs to happen?

Oh, sorry, I forgot, get them at a young age and they are easier to brainwash and indoctrinate.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20831 Jan 17, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as Head Start, PARENTS need to be raising and nurturing their "babies," not pushing them into cognitive competition with the Chinese or anyone else. Let them be kids, for Heaven's sake!
My guess is most people here on Topix never wet to Head Start or any of those other kiddie programs and we turned out okay.
Trouble is, many of today's parents, on all economic and social levels, aren't as responsible or as vigilant as parents used to be...that along with the total insanity they are bombarded with each day from television, the movies, and the internet make this a different world for today's children. Sure you can isolate, to a certain degree, their exposure by separating them from the realities of this world by home schooling or sending them to church sponsored schools but that in itself tends to make them somewhat unprepared for the much more open and seemingly complicated society they will eventually face.

I think it's evident that we are falling behind other countries in education...and while raising and nurturing has it's place, so does a good educational discipline, exposure to social grace, and old fashioned buckling down and learning at it's highest level within a proven system.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20832 Jan 17, 2013
guess wrote:
Hey Don't know nothing since you seem to want to act like an expert to everyone and get on to everybody, I have a question for you do you have your head up obama's butt or you his little puppy dog that's following him around. For starters i'm not talking about democrats or republicans this is about a president who has radical ideas and FYI it was his radical spending plan agendas he is having congress to pass and yes he is at fault. Now democrats are wanting to give obama no debt limit and do away the debt ceiling. Giving obama a blank check is a receipe for disaster. Apparently you didn't pay attention yesterday to his announcement he wants to spend another 500 million for gun control, money this nation does not have we are broke period. All obama wants to do is spend money that ain't his. And yesterday he trampled all over the constitution and this is a start to getting the guns. And by the way he overstepped his way in one of executive orders in telling the doctors they have to ask their patients if that own a gun then report them if they do. It's in there you need to read it for yourself. I think all of us on here can agree on some things. I say we ask you since you seem to be all for obama i got some things you can do. For starters since you seem to be ok with all his spending, why don't we just let him know that he can send you the bill for the national debt 16.4 trillion we are sure you love to pay the bill. Since it seems that you are against guns why don't you ahead and hand yours in. I'm sure a baseball will be ok for you, especially if a criminal breaks in on you and he's got a gun, I'm sure you can handle him. One other thing why don't you hang a sign on your house and tell all the criminals that your house is a gun free zone, I'm pretty sure they would love that. You have proved to me and all others you really don't know nothing. It's time to do some reading and learn something.
That bill to Obama should only be 6.4 trillion, 10 trillion of that figure already existed when he took office.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20833 Jan 17, 2013
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>

That bill to Obama should only be 6.4 trillion, 10 trillion of that figure already existed when he took office.
How much lost revenue has the Bush tax cuts cost American taxpayers?

3.4 trillion as of 2013

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/...

How much have taxpayers in the United States spent to finance both the War in Iraq and the War in Afghanistan since 2001?

1.4 trillion as of right now.

http://costofwar.com/

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20834 Jan 17, 2013
guess wrote:
Hey Don't know nothing since you seem to want to act like an expert to everyone and get on to everybody, I have a question for you do you have your head up obama's butt or you his little puppy dog that's following him around. For starters i'm not talking about democrats or republicans this is about a president who has radical ideas and FYI it was his radical spending plan agendas he is having congress to pass and yes he is at fault. Now democrats are wanting to give obama no debt limit and do away the debt ceiling. Giving obama a blank check is a receipe for disaster. Apparently you didn't pay attention yesterday to his announcement he wants to spend another 500 million for gun control, money this nation does not have we are broke period. All obama wants to do is spend money that ain't his. And yesterday he trampled all over the constitution and this is a start to getting the guns. And by the way he overstepped his way in one of executive orders in telling the doctors they have to ask their patients if that own a gun then report them if they do. It's in there you need to read it for yourself. I think all of us on here can agree on some things. I say we ask you since you seem to be all for obama i got some things you can do. For starters since you seem to be ok with all his spending, why don't we just let him know that he can send you the bill for the national debt 16.4 trillion we are sure you love to pay the bill. Since it seems that you are against guns why don't you ahead and hand yours in. I'm sure a baseball will be ok for you, especially if a criminal breaks in on you and he's got a gun, I'm sure you can handle him. One other thing why don't you hang a sign on your house and tell all the criminals that your house is a gun free zone, I'm pretty sure they would love that. You have proved to me and all others you really don't know nothing. It's time to do some reading and learn something.
"And by the way he overstepped his way in one of executive orders in telling the doctors they have to ask their patients if that own a gun then report them if they do"

You are wrong about this as well.

What the order said was;

"clarify" that the federal health care overhaul "does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about gun in their homes."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/17/do...

You are still covered by the first amendment- you have the right to say TO THAT Dr., ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

I Have to agree with you, "do some reading and learn something" !
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20841 Jan 17, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Yes the parents of those poor children should be put on the chopping block. Dumb people just have dumber kids. You democrats come from generations of welfare takers. Never ever really get off of the government tit, never!
I hope you haven't had any kids, if you did the, little MFers are probably getting their "education" as we type in some New Mexico prison.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20842 Jan 17, 2013
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>psychos and criminals are walking the streets because there is no law against being a psycho or criminal genius..mental health checks and other funding and considerations are being takin into account for better ways to determin if someone is mentally unstable and ways to help them get treatment, and criminals have already served their time and are not subject to search just for being a criminal unless commiting or involved in suspicious or malicious behavior, any other type of search would be profiling and harrasment by law enforcement. and your answer for your STRONG defending of the mentally unstable and ex-cons or criminals to own guns is hell NO they don't deserve the right to own a gun, and YES they are considered different poeple to the american populous. charles manson does not deserve the right to own a gun and he is BOTH a psycho and a criminal. My brother does NOT deserve the right to own a gun and he is a criminal. There are certain laws that have been inacted and repeat offenders against those laws when they know better deserve to lose their rights, or first time offenders of a major offense such as murderers,we do not promote the growth of ignorance in this country even though you are a prime example of such. Your strong argument of we don't need the laws on guns because they will not work, is not working. If that was the case then why should we have laws against murdering someone? why should we have laws against speeding or stealing? why should we have laws against rape or child mollestation? all of those things happen everyday, we haven't stopped all of those things so what good are the laws? that is the same argument you have been making against gun violence and is a bad argument to come out with. if they pass legislation like they are talking about for everyone to have guns registered and private sells to incorporate background checks and registration, that clip sizes be reduced to 7 rounds and assault weapons ban that was enacted in the 90s re-enacted, and a broader definition of the word assault rifle and mental illness, along with better and more intensive mental health checks, may NOT stop ALL the problem but it WILL HELP. all laws have to start somewhere."A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." that is your 2nd amendment and you have the right to bear arms as they seen fit back then which was guns, no rocket launchers or assault rifels that can fire off 50-100 rounds a minute, and the first statement is "A well regulated Militia". Regulation is what we are trying to do and will accomplish so quit crying about it and get over it.
"and your answer for your STRONG defending of the mentally unstable and ex-cons or criminals to own guns is hell NO they don't deserve the right to own a gun, and YES they are considered different poeple to the american populous."
The American populous needs to read the CONSTITUTION! It says "Shall NOT be infringed."

I did not "defend" the mentally unstable. I said who is a danger to society could be debated. Who is one human to determine another should have their right to self-defense removed?

Give Charles Manson a gun. I don't care. When he breaks into someones house, they shoot him. That's how this self-defense thing works.

Yeah, limit all clips to 7 rounds and see how well that works. Let's hope that all home invasions are only done by one person and that the homeowner is a damn good shot. The lady that shot the intruder in her home shot him 5 times and he was still moving. What if there were two men?

Limiting the number of rounds means people will want, need and ultimately have more guns. Seven rounds just doesn't cut it when you don't know what the scenerio will be or how many people you could be dealing with.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20843 Jan 17, 2013
guess wrote:
Hey Don't know nothing since you seem to want to act like an expert to everyone and get on to everybody, I have a question for you do you have your head up obama's butt or you his little puppy dog that's following him around. For starters i'm not talking about democrats or republicans this is about a president who has radical ideas and FYI it was his radical spending plan agendas he is having congress to pass and yes he is at fault. Now democrats are wanting to give obama no debt limit and do away the debt ceiling. Giving obama a blank check is a receipe for disaster. Apparently you didn't pay attention yesterday to his announcement he wants to spend another 500 million for gun control, money this nation does not have we are broke period. All obama wants to do is spend money that ain't his. And yesterday he trampled all over the constitution and this is a start to getting the guns. And by the way he overstepped his way in one of executive orders in telling the doctors they have to ask their patients if that own a gun then report them if they do. It's in there you need to read it for yourself. I think all of us on here can agree on some things. I say we ask you since you seem to be all for obama i got some things you can do. For starters since you seem to be ok with all his spending, why don't we just let him know that he can send you the bill for the national debt 16.4 trillion we are sure you love to pay the bill. Since it seems that you are against guns why don't you ahead and hand yours in. I'm sure a baseball will be ok for you, especially if a criminal breaks in on you and he's got a gun, I'm sure you can handle him. One other thing why don't you hang a sign on your house and tell all the criminals that your house is a gun free zone, I'm pretty sure they would love that. You have proved to me and all others you really don't know nothing. It's time to do some reading and learn something.
You just gave me a great idea. Why don't all the gun owners put a sign on their house that says This is a gun-free zone!!?? Before long, there would be no criminals left!! LOL
Drugstore Cowboy

Little Rock, AR

#20844 Jan 17, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
"and your answer for your STRONG defending of the mentally unstable and ex-cons or criminals to own guns is hell NO they don't deserve the right to own a gun, and YES they are considered different poeple to the american populous."
The American populous needs to read the CONSTITUTION! It says "Shall NOT be infringed."
I did not "defend" the mentally unstable. I said who is a danger to society could be debated. Who is one human to determine another should have their right to self-defense removed?
Give Charles Manson a gun. I don't care. When he breaks into someones house, they shoot him. That's how this self-defense thing works.
Yeah, limit all clips to 7 rounds and see how well that works. Let's hope that all home invasions are only done by one person and that the homeowner is a damn good shot. The lady that shot the intruder in her home shot him 5 times and he was still moving. What if there were two men?
Limiting the number of rounds means people will want, need and ultimately have more guns. Seven rounds just doesn't cut it when you don't know what the scenerio will be or how many people you could be dealing with.
My 9 MM holds 15, my shot gun holds 5, my wife's 22 holds 9, my speed-loader holds 18..not disputing your logic, but anybody surviving 5 rounds of no.4 steel shot is a pretty tough customer. Besides, I not too hip on killing my neighbors by spraying 30 rounds of .223 around the hood.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20845 Jan 17, 2013
Drugstore Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
My 9 MM holds 15, my shot gun holds 5, my wife's 22 holds 9, my speed-loader holds 18..not disputing your logic, but anybody surviving 5 rounds of no.4 steel shot is a pretty tough customer. Besides, I not too hip on killing my neighbors by spraying 30 rounds of .223 around the hood.
There are alot of us who don't have neighbors close enough to get hit by anything.
What good is seven rounds when two or three big guys are coming up the stairs? Even if they get killed, they may survive long enough to do some damage.
Chit Mon

Earle, AR

#20846 Jan 17, 2013
Drugstore Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
My 9 MM holds 15, my shot gun holds 5, my wife's 22 holds 9, my speed-loader holds 18..not disputing your logic, but anybody surviving 5 rounds of no.4 steel shot is a pretty tough customer. Besides, I not too hip on killing my neighbors by spraying 30 rounds of .223 around the hood.
I agree with this voice. Lots of us are talking like we're going to war and need to arm ourselves as if in Afghan; we're sounding like blowhards who weren't gutsy enough to head to Afghan with those who truly are brave. All this endless BS about absolutely NEEDING hi-cap mags just in case 35 Narco Cartel thugs are banging on our doors, and what if we get in a protracted gun battle with three thugs out on the streets and we've only got four 10-rd clips? What will we do? Well, we might stop watching those damned warfare, assault and attack video games, that's the first thing. The second is to carry for defensive purposes only, quit talking like freelance soldiers and do everything possible always to avoid or exit scenarios that either don't look or feel right. The best shot you could possibly take is the one you never have to take. I carry a 10-rd 9mm because it's an easy carry, has never malfunctioned on any of the first 1000 rounds, and it cleans easily. Sometimes I'll carry something far more powerful. I practice a lot; ammo is expensive. I don't leave home with an attitude nor do I look for confrontation of any sort; I'll walk away first, but if it should suddenly come my way ... that's why I'm licensed.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20847 Jan 17, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
There are alot of us who don't have neighbors close enough to get hit by anything.
What good is seven rounds when two or three big guys are coming up the stairs? Even if they get killed, they may survive long enough to do some damage.
That is the part where you stand at the top of the stairs and say.

Go ahead punk, make my day!

Make it four or five guys, that would be even more exciting.

Reality Check

Mountain Pine, AR

#20848 Jan 17, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that is not the way I see it at all.
This is what I see,
folks living in areas of high employment scraping by on UE money, lacking the resources to relocate for employment, and some self righteous idiots calling those people lazy.
So the next you want to quote "what I see", you can start with this.
That's funny, I never said anyone was lazy. I said that we all have lazy tendencies and that's a fact. For example, if a person works at their job for however many years and builds up a couple of weeks vacation and they take that vacation. At the end of the vacation the person says "Man, I don't want to go back to work". Why do you think that is? What do you think would happen if the person were allowed to take a 5 year paid vacation? How ready do you think that person would be to go back to work after 5 years? Why do you think jobs with the most paid time off are the most attractive? Why do you think jobs that give perks that their employees don't have to pay for out of their salary are the most sought after? Why do those jobs advertise those perks and not how satisfying the work is? People have to work at not being lazy. The more you work at it the easier it is to not be lazy. The less you work at it, the more apt a person is to be lazy. It may not fit your "It's not your fault your life didn't turn out so great" liberal way of thinking but that's the way it is. Your post simply twisted my words to demonize me and make people see the quote in a way you want them to see it and not the way it was actually typed. Don't worry, I expect it.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20849 Jan 17, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
That's funny, I never said anyone was lazy. I said that we all have lazy tendencies and that's a fact. For example, if a person works at their job for however many years and builds up a couple of weeks vacation and they take that vacation. At the end of the vacation the person says "Man, I don't want to go back to work". Why do you think that is? What do you think would happen if the person were allowed to take a 5 year paid vacation? How ready do you think that person would be to go back to work after 5 years? Why do you think jobs with the most paid time off are the most attractive? Why do you think jobs that give perks that their employees don't have to pay for out of their salary are the most sought after? Why do those jobs advertise those perks and not how satisfying the work is? People have to work at not being lazy. The more you work at it the easier it is to not be lazy. The less you work at it, the more apt a person is to be lazy. It may not fit your "It's not your fault your life didn't turn out so great" liberal way of thinking but that's the way it is. Your post simply twisted my words to demonize me and make people see the quote in a way you want them to see it and not the way it was actually typed. Don't worry, I expect it.
I never said you did, actually I fully expected such a response from you. That is why I said,

"some self righteous idiots calling those people lazy"

to see if you would include yourself in those who do, did not have to wait long did I?

You "demonize" yourself with your own words.

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