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Think ill puke

Oklahoma City, OK

#20293 Jan 5, 2013
Change wrote:
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Yet my friend, yet. The writing is on the wall. The American worker has tired of years of exploitation. Romney's agenda of Capitolism was the last gasp of a broken bussiness model. The straight, white, bible carrying, hunting male is a dying breed. Look to California, they are changing the Country out there. The traditional Southern man belongs in the Smithsonian with the rotary phone and the horse drawn carriage. The times are a changin! in 20 years whites will be a minority in America. I predict the millionaire will soon follow. One way or another Americans will surrender their guns, the world will demand it. During his 2nd term Obama will have 2 possibly 3 Supreme court appointments. He has a GOP that has been neutered, they cannot stop him. Once we get the Supreme Court that will be the death rattle regarding your outdated narrow vision of America.
We are not California, queer.
Think ill puke

Oklahoma City, OK

#20294 Jan 5, 2013
Change wrote:
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OK caveman, riddle me this, site one example in my post that is false? sorry to burst your bubble but Mitt lost. White males lost! Bible thumpers lost! Your violent way of life lost! equality won! minorities won! workers of America won! President Obama is the first "European" President America has ever had and the world applauds. Why do you fear this change? why should we accept have and have nots? how do you not see the positive? America is once again liked. People across the globe honestly believe America is joining the party. I am thrilled with the direction the President has chosen for this Country. Trust me on this, once restitution has been made the world will embrace America. I honestly believe the borders are coming down, one planet, one people!
O hail the U. N.!
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#20295 Jan 5, 2013
Redd wrote:
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Nothing can change what I see as the fundamental reason we fought a the American Revolution, to give every citizen the opportunity to succeed in a society somewhat devoid of a ruling class..in many ways we are on the precipice of returning to that former situation..minus the hereditary titles afforded the aristocracy of 18th century Europe.
"It should seem then that it must be because of the enormous wealth, which places them above attention to the increase of their revenues, that I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable, but the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." - Thomas Jefferson
A simple honest and sincere question. How does the people the democratic party demonize hold the middle class down? I truly don't understand how someone could believe such a claim. If Mitt Romney, Warren Buffet, Al Gore, George Bush, or whomever makes billions of dollars per year do you really think that somehow it reduces the chances of you succeeding? Does it rob them of the opportunity to succeed? Take Sam Walton for example. He was certainly not always wealthy. How did he overcome the "oppressors" in this country if he wasn't in that group already? Do you really think that all, or even most, of the people struggling in this country is the fault of someone they don't even know who makes billions per year? Do you think that there is 0 hope for someone to overcome a bad life to be the next tycoon of whatever industry. If you think there is a chance then you must see and admit that the wealthy don't have as much to do with a person's success or failure in life as the person themselves. Reading your posts I am more convinced that you and I are not that far apart in our views but rather who is responsible for our success and failuers as a society is where we differ. I look at my life and I can pick out countless opportunities that I missed because of my decisions. It was never because of some Wall Street big wig was making an obscene salary that caused me to miss those opportunities. It was me. But you know what, I decided somewhere that I couldn't keep living like I was living or my situation would never change so I changed my priorities, my work ethic, my drive, my purpose, and my situation soon changed. Now I see opportunities and they don't get away from me. As a result, my life is in a very good place and getting better all the time. A person's decisions in life compound in whatever direction that person chooses and that can be good or bad but it's ultimately up to the person and noone can change that. Government intervention in our lives can make that process easier or harder. The more government control of our lives we have, the harder that road to success becomes.
Wife of Old Army

Oklahoma City, OK

#20296 Jan 5, 2013
Guest wrote:
Old Army swings a big bat!!
Believe me; it ain't that big.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20297 Jan 5, 2013
Change wrote:
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OK caveman, riddle me this, site one example in my post that is false? sorry to burst your bubble but Mitt lost. White males lost! Bible thumpers lost! Your violent way of life lost! equality won! minorities won! workers of America won! President Obama is the first "European" President America has ever had and the world applauds. Why do you fear this change? why should we accept have and have nots? how do you not see the positive? America is once again liked. People across the globe honestly believe America is joining the party. I am thrilled with the direction the President has chosen for this Country. Trust me on this, once restitution has been made the world will embrace America. I honestly believe the borders are coming down, one planet, one people!
OK Kelly, you can go back to the Searcy, Arkansas forum now. yuc yuc
Not free

Hallsville, TX

#20300 Jan 5, 2013
why should we vote, I moved to Corning Arkansas 40 years ago when are boat meant something. now I'm bout don't mean dick, they let this community go to hell and let anybody and everybody who wants to move in move in. this town is being run by the crack is a pill heads the new black pimps and drug dealers. even the officials in the area are letting them over right everything. Corning is no longer a community. we should just put chains and bars around the whole city because of the short time is going to look like the inside of prison anyway.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20301 Jan 5, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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A simple honest and sincere question. How does the people the democratic party demonize hold the middle class down? I truly don't understand how someone could believe such a claim. If Mitt Romney, Warren Buffet, Al Gore, George Bush, or whomever makes billions of dollars per year do you really think that somehow it reduces the chances of you succeeding? Does it rob them of the opportunity to succeed? Take Sam Walton for example. He was certainly not always wealthy. How did he overcome the "oppressors" in this country if he wasn't in that group already? Do you really think that all, or even most, of the people struggling in this country is the fault of someone they don't even know who makes billions per year? Do you think that there is 0 hope for someone to overcome a bad life to be the next tycoon of whatever industry. If you think there is a chance then you must see and admit that the wealthy don't have as much to do with a person's success or failure in life as the person themselves. Reading your posts I am more convinced that you and I are not that far apart in our views but rather who is responsible for our success and failuers as a society is where we differ. I look at my life and I can pick out countless opportunities that I missed because of my decisions. It was never because of some Wall Street big wig was making an obscene salary that caused me to miss those opportunities. It was me. But you know what, I decided somewhere that I couldn't keep living like I was living or my situation would never change so I changed my priorities, my work ethic, my drive, my purpose, and my situation soon changed. Now I see opportunities and they don't get away from me. As a result, my life is in a very good place and getting better all the time. A person's decisions in life compound in whatever direction that person chooses and that can be good or bad but it's ultimately up to the person and noone can change that. Government intervention in our lives can make that process easier or harder. The more government control of our lives we have, the harder that road to success becomes.
Simple, although abuse abounds,(but name me a institution where it doesn't) Republicans have, tried to destroy, since it's inception, at every opportunity, organized labor...have tried to mollify any sensible workplace safety regulations...have fought any environmental policies, clean air, water acts...any responsibility in the welfare of it's workers, any minimum wage standards, while doing everything possible to aid the captains of industry and their interests.

And still do.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20302 Jan 5, 2013
Redd wrote:
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Simple, although abuse abounds,(but name me a institution where it doesn't) Republicans have, tried to destroy, since it's inception, at every opportunity, organized labor...have tried to mollify any sensible workplace safety regulations...have fought any environmental policies, clean air, water acts...any responsibility in the welfare of it's workers, any minimum wage standards, while doing everything possible to aid the captains of industry and their interests.
And still do.
That's not true.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20303 Jan 5, 2013
Wife of Old Army wrote:
<quoted text> Believe me; it ain't that big.
Dern, now I'm guilty of bigamy, with a fkn ho at that.
Reality Check

Hot Springs Village, AR

#20304 Jan 5, 2013
Redd wrote:
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Simple, although abuse abounds,(but name me a institution where it doesn't) Republicans have, tried to destroy, since it's inception, at every opportunity, organized labor...have tried to mollify any sensible workplace safety regulations...have fought any environmental policies, clean air, water acts...any responsibility in the welfare of it's workers, any minimum wage standards, while doing everything possible to aid the captains of industry and their interests.
And still do.
Do you not agree that some workplace regulations need to be reduced or eased in leiu of common sense? The same goes for environmental regulations. I'm not saying that we should have no regulation but the regulation shouldn't choke out an industry either. I'm not sure where you got that republicans are the ones that are negating any responsibility of welfare recipients. Ironically, I am in the process of studying the argument that minimum wage is harmful and repressive so I can't comment on that. But again, whether or not they are beholden to this or that industry, that still doesn't affect someone who wants to succeed and is willing to do what it takes and be disciplined and not careless in their dicisions. It does however affect everyone that works and pays federal income taxes when over half the population is allowed on social welfare programs and not expected to pay those federal income taxes.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20305 Jan 5, 2013
Old Army wrote:
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That's not true.
With the exception of Teddy Roosevelt, the first true Progressive, that is the profile of most Republican administrations.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20306 Jan 5, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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Do you not agree that some workplace regulations need to be reduced or eased in leiu of common sense? The same goes for environmental regulations. I'm not saying that we should have no regulation but the regulation shouldn't choke out an industry either. I'm not sure where you got that republicans are the ones that are negating any responsibility of welfare recipients. Ironically, I am in the process of studying the argument that minimum wage is harmful and repressive so I can't comment on that. But again, whether or not they are beholden to this or that industry, that still doesn't affect someone who wants to succeed and is willing to do what it takes and be disciplined and not careless in their dicisions. It does however affect everyone that works and pays federal income taxes when over half the population is allowed on social welfare programs and not expected to pay those federal income taxes.
I don't think I mentioned welfare recipients, there was a reason that I didn't, don't you think?
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20307 Jan 5, 2013
Redd wrote:
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With the exception of Teddy Roosevelt, the first true Progressive, that is the profile of most Republican administrations.
That's not true either.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20308 Jan 5, 2013
Old Army wrote:
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That's not true either.
Prove it.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#20309 Jan 5, 2013
Redd wrote:
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I don't think I mentioned welfare recipients, there was a reason that I didn't, don't you think?
After reading it again, it makes sense why it didn't make sense. Sorry.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20310 Jan 5, 2013
Redd wrote:
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Prove it.
You first. You're the one that made a blanket statement about Republicans that you know is not true.
Fallacious at Best

Greenville, SC

#20311 Jan 5, 2013
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Reality Check wrote:
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I don't like working my tail off only to see my hard earned money go to those that work the system... When people choose welfare over working for a living, something is wrong with the social welfare system... women having children for more income.... tell them to act crazy to get an SSI check ...people wasting food stamp money on luxury items such as lobster... When you have waste and abuse of programs like this then the system is broken and needs to be fixed... No person should have to work 2-3 jobs making minimum wage only to have someone that doesn't even work make more than they do. It's wrong and immoral.
I get your frustration, but you make so many unsupported & judgmental assertions I wonder if they are factual or just perceptual. The real problem lies not so much in the welfare system as in the disparity & bureaucracy that underpins our current economic system (esp. in places like AR where the min. wage is 4th lowest in the nation). I would wager that no one comes of age dreaming of the day when s/he can finally qualify for a few hundred $ worth of food stamps or similar benefits. Given the oppt'y, reasonable individuals prefer to (at min) earn a living wage, & (at best) earn enough to indulge some of their wants as well as their basic needs. I have occasionally contemplated returning to El Dorado. Imagine my shock when routine searches turn up jobs that I know will barely keep my head above water. I have seen announcements for jobs that require, college degrees, special skills, several years of work experience, etc. and pay in the neighborhood of $1,500 to $2,000/mo. Adjusting for taxes, rent/mortgage, utilities, car payment, home/auto/med insurance, fuel, childcare, groceries, work wardrobe, etc., the worker-- no matter how motivated or well-intended-- will likely end up in the red. Factor in intangibles like reduced discretionary time, personal stress, cronyism, nepotism,'good ol' boy', and other office politics, and it's not an attractive proposition. Regardless of one's personal value system, it is very disheartening to give it your all 40+ hrs/week, and STILL not be able to make ends meet. When one considers that so many of the jobs in El Dorado are not even F/T, the picture is gloomier still. From such a perspective, it's not so hard to understand why some SETTLE for social welfare benefits. I know people who lost their jobs in the recession and were treated like scum because they dared to claim unemployment benefits for which they'd paid into 'the system' for 20-25 yrs. Imagine going from earning six or eight grand/mo to receiving $300-$400/wk that won't even cover your house payment, all the while having presumptuous people look down their noses at you for being "lazy, trifling and shiftless'. Imagine facing the dilemma of accepting or rejecting the first low-paying job that comes along, knowing it will both render you unavailable to look for more suitable work, skew your salary history, and ensure that you won't be able to meet your current expenses that were based on a substantially higher income. As far as disability goes, it takes a lot of players to scam that system. Perhaps we should reserve some of our vitriol for the doctors and lawyers who profit from encouraging and supporting fraudulent claims as well as the obviously inept administrators who approve them. What is "wrong and immoral" is that ANYONE should HAVE to work 2-3 jobs at all. Some of this is attributable to employers who also game the system by hiring only P/T workers to avoid providing benefits, paying certain workers (like wait staff) a fraction of the minimum wage, encouraging high turnover in low-skilled jobs to keep certain costs down, etc. These "broken" social welfare programs underwrite their bottom line by lowering their costs of doing business. As a business owner, I would hope that your concern is an indication that you are part of the solution and not the problem. Best.
Change

Batesville, AR

#20312 Jan 5, 2013
Think ill puke wrote:
<quoted text> We are not California, queer.
Ah, personal insults! the last bastion of the bitter and ignorant. Believe me, no one is mistaking this place for California. You see in California they are open minded, educated and pay in more taxes then they take out. The President himself once said very insightfully "when faced with change people hold on tightly to religion and guns". You see the majority of Americans re-soundly rejected your archaic beliefs. The majority of people in this Country have said "we want change, we want to join the world community". No longer will the close minded and superstitious call the shots. President Obama has made it quite clear that America will play by UN rules. He is a great man leading this Nation to the light. Have you ever noticed that not once has he ever said "sovereign nation" when referring to America? he understands that this Country is part of the global community. Do a little research, UN peace keeping troops are currently running drills in Colorado and South Carolina. For years other Nations have had to live with American troops on their soil, why shouldn't you play by the same rules?



Rather then stick your head deeper in the sand why not try and educate yourself? the Center for accountability in media listed Barack Obama as the most liberal Senator (a compliment) 2 years in a row. The Rand Corporation think tank named him the most progressive Senator ever (a massive compliment). And how did the American public process this information? they elected him President, twice. Still want to tell me how things won't change? my poor uninformed friend, the ice is melting all around you. The old America with it's have and have not's, with it's hands in everyone's business and with an armed violent public is gone, and it's never coming back. The new America that is a tenant of this planet, no better no worse, one that gives it's fair share and takes care of people is just being born. It is my feeling that President Brack Obama will go down as one of the greatest Americans ever.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20313 Jan 5, 2013
Old Army wrote:
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You first. You're the one that made a blanket statement about Republicans that you know is not true.
How did I know, in advance, what your response would be.

Two years experience reading your posts.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#20314 Jan 5, 2013
Fallacious at Best wrote:
[<quoted text>
I get your frustration, but you make so many unsupported & judgmental assertions I wonder if they are factual or just perceptual. The real problem lies not so much in the welfare system as in the disparity & bureaucracy that underpins our current economic system (esp. in places like AR where the min. wage is 4th lowest in the nation). I would wager that no one comes of age dreaming of the day when s/he can finally qualify for a few hundred $ worth of food stamps or similar benefits. Given the oppt'y, reasonable individuals prefer to (at min) earn a living wage, & (at best) earn enough to indulge some of their wants as well as their basic needs. I have occasionally contemplated returning to El Dorado. Imagine my shock when routine searches turn up jobs that I know will barely keep my head above water. I have seen announcements for jobs that require, college degrees, special skills, several years of work experience, etc. and pay in the neighborhood of $1,500 to $2,000/mo. Adjusting for taxes, rent/mortgage, utilities, car payment, home/auto/med insurance, fuel, childcare, groceries, work wardrobe, etc., the worker-- no matter how motivated or well-intended-- will likely end up in the red. Factor in intangibles like reduced discretionary time, personal stress, cronyism, nepotism,'good ol' boy', and other office politics, and it's not an attractive proposition. Regardless of one's personal value system, it is very disheartening to give it your all 40+ hrs/week, and STILL not be able to make ends meet. When one considers that so many of the jobs in El Dorado are not even F/T, the picture is gloomier still. From such a perspective, it's not so hard to understand why some SETTLE for social welfare benefits. I know people who lost their jobs in the recession and were treated like scum because they dared to claim unemployment benefits for which they'd paid into 'the system' for 20-25 yrs. Imagine going from earning six or eight grand/mo to receiving $300-$400/wk that won't even cover your house payment, all the while having presumptuous people look down their noses at you for being "lazy, trifling and shiftless'. Imagine facing the dilemma of accepting or rejecting the first low-paying job that comes along, knowing it will both render you unavailable to look for more suitable work, skew your salary history, and ensure that you won't be able to meet your current expenses that were based on a substantially higher income. As far as disability goes, it takes a lot of players to scam that system. Perhaps we should reserve some of our vitriol for the doctors and lawyers who profit from encouraging and supporting fraudulent claims as well as the obviously inept administrators who approve them. What is "wrong and immoral" is that ANYONE should HAVE to work 2-3 jobs at all. Some of this is attributable to employers who also game the system by hiring only P/T workers to avoid providing benefits, paying certain workers (like wait staff) a fraction of the minimum wage, encouraging high turnover in low-skilled jobs to keep certain costs down, etc. These "broken" social welfare programs underwrite their bottom line by lowering their costs of doing business. As a business owner, I would hope that your concern is an indication that you are part of the solution and not the problem. Best.
I didn't think anyone other than "Change" from Batesville could make "Dont know nothin" look like a genius, but I was wrong. You are dumber than a stump. Keep up the good work Redd.

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