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Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#20024 Dec 29, 2012
Redd wrote:
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When you and your constitutes learn that the purpose of government is not to adopt certain principles reflecting one side vs the other, but only to govern the whole, then maybe we can get back to the business of making America work again.
The worst calamity that could befall us this past four decades was provided by none other than Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority. Turned Christian against Christian and opened the door for extremest elements on the Far Right.
It's amazing what a few con men (Falwell, Murdoch, Limbaugh) can accomplish when handed the keys to the kingdom by a gullible public.
Do you mean the principles set forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Those are the principles that this country was founded on and those are also the principles that Obama is throwing in the trash. What Obama is trying to do is take America back to the form of government our founders left in Great Brittain. Should we all have to suffer for the sake of a few? That is how socialism works. Our founding documents paved the way to capitlaism where everyone has a chance to succeed. If they don't then it's certainly not because they didn't have the opportunity. Bad things happen to good people but you can't blame every bad thing that happens on capitalism and that is exactly what the democratic party is doing. There is no more gullible public than the public that supports a socialistic government.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20025 Dec 29, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
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Do you mean the principles set forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Those are the principles that this country was founded on and those are also the principles that Obama is throwing in the trash. What Obama is trying to do is take America back to the form of government our founders left in Great Brittain. Should we all have to suffer for the sake of a few? That is how socialism works. Our founding documents paved the way to capitlaism where everyone has a chance to succeed. If they don't then it's certainly not because they didn't have the opportunity. Bad things happen to good people but you can't blame every bad thing that happens on capitalism and that is exactly what the democratic party is doing. There is no more gullible public than the public that supports a socialistic government.
It's quite apparent that some of you don't think you now have the chance to succeed in America, funny that so many seem to be doing quite well. If you've paid attention, got a education, determine to make a place for yourself and your family, work your ass off, save a few bucks and become flexible to relocating if needed, there's no reason to think you can't live the American dream.

It's still there, and if a dumb-ass like myself can see it, so should most of you..
guest

Blytheville, AR

#20027 Dec 29, 2012
Billy Bob wrote:
<quoted text> You would think that the Republicans won the election. They are trying to run this country.
They are trying to simply fix the mess that democrats and the president have made over the past six years.
swamp donkey

Oklahoma City, OK

#20028 Dec 29, 2012
Time to get white power back
Old Army

Damascus, AR

#20029 Dec 29, 2012
Billy Bob wrote:
<quoted text> His Name is "General Herbert "Stormin Norman" Schwarzkopf" not black head or fat general. Show some respect for a grate man that lead our forces to victory. You bring dishonor to his name and his memory with such anti-Americana comments. You call yourself "Old Army". You must not of served in the US Army to make such comments.
Actually, General Schwarzkopf didn't like the name Herbert nor the nickname Stormin Norman. He preferred "Bear". I probably shouldn't have called him fat but it appeared to me that he didn't meet the Army's weight control standards that caused a lot of good soldiers to be booted out just before retiring. Schwarz means black in German and kopf means head. I served in Vietnam about the time he did but I wasn't the hero that he was. I also served under his command in Southwest Asia during Desert Shield and Desert Storm. I just did my small part but I'm proud to be a retired soldier. Now Dumbkopf, you go ahead and wrap yourself in your Americana flag and continue to attack me.
Reaity Check

Little Rock, AR

#20030 Dec 29, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
It's quite apparent that some of you don't think you now have the chance to succeed in America, funny that so many seem to be doing quite well. If you've paid attention, got a education, determine to make a place for yourself and your family, work your ass off, save a few bucks and become flexible to relocating if needed, there's no reason to think you can't live the American dream.
It's still there, and if a dumb-ass like myself can see it, so should most of you..
I don't know if you have ever owned your own business but I can tell you that business owners are not as wealthy as most Americans believe. The "profits" a business is taxed on is not the number in the checkbook and for most businesses it's very hard to scrape up enough money to pay the taxes the government says you should pay. So with the new taxes coming down the pike reguardless of whether or not we go over the cliff, it will be significantly more difficult for the "average" American to reach prosperity. Your point about Americans doing quite well is spot on when comparing it to the rest of the world but not by American standards which is what every American compares themselves to. The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to.
Billy Bob

Fayetteville, AR

#20031 Dec 29, 2012
Old Army wrote:
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Actually, General Schwarzkopf didn't like the name Herbert nor the nickname Stormin Norman. He preferred "Bear". I probably shouldn't have called him fat but it appeared to me that he didn't meet the Army's weight control standards that caused a lot of good soldiers to be booted out just before retiring. Schwarz means black in German and kopf means head. I served in Vietnam about the time he did but I wasn't the hero that he was. I also served under his command in Southwest Asia during Desert Shield and Desert Storm. I just did my small part but I'm proud to be a retired soldier. Now Dumbkopf, you go ahead and wrap yourself in your Americana flag and continue to attack me.
Yer right so you say.... I could wright a lot on here too but doesn't mean its true. and after your past post's its hard to be-leave anything you say.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20032 Dec 29, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
It's quite apparent that some of you don't think you now have the chance to succeed in America, funny that so many seem to be doing quite well. If you've paid attention, got a education, determine to make a place for yourself and your family, work your ass off, save a few bucks and become flexible to relocating if needed, there's no reason to think you can't live the American dream.
It's still there, and if a dumb-ass like myself can see it, so should most of you..
I see it everyday, from my own children.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20033 Dec 29, 2012
Redd wrote:
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I, for one, don't mind paying a little more tax if it helps my Country.
Then by all means, please do. The IRS takes cash, checks and money orders.

I, for one, choose not to be an enabler. The more I send them, the more they waste. I don't approve of much of what they waste it on either.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20034 Dec 29, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
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I don't know if you have ever owned your own business but I can tell you that business owners are not as wealthy as most Americans believe. The "profits" a business is taxed on is not the number in the checkbook and for most businesses it's very hard to scrape up enough money to pay the taxes the government says you should pay. So with the new taxes coming down the pike reguardless of whether or not we go over the cliff, it will be significantly more difficult for the "average" American to reach prosperity. Your point about Americans doing quite well is spot on when comparing it to the rest of the world but not by American standards which is what every American compares themselves to. The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to.
"The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to."
You nailed that spot on!
shut up please

Jonesboro, AR

#20035 Dec 29, 2012
I wish you idiots would just shut y'all's mouth and quit embarrassing yourselves. Go kill yourselves.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20036 Dec 29, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if you have ever owned your own business but I can tell you that business owners are not as wealthy as most Americans believe. The "profits" a business is taxed on is not the number in the checkbook and for most businesses it's very hard to scrape up enough money to pay the taxes the government says you should pay. So with the new taxes coming down the pike reguardless of whether or not we go over the cliff, it will be significantly more difficult for the "average" American to reach prosperity. Your point about Americans doing quite well is spot on when comparing it to the rest of the world but not by American standards which is what every American compares themselves to. The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to.
He made a "great point" , I have to agree with you to that fact.

Was the point over your head, or did you understand it and subjectively hijacke it, spinning it into Right wing propaganda .

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say

I really suspect it was the latter.
Reaity Check

Little Rock, AR

#20037 Dec 29, 2012
BARNEYII wrote:
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He made a "great point" , I have to agree with you to that fact.
Was the point over your head, or did you understand it and subjectively hijacke it, spinning it into Right wing propaganda .
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say
I really suspect it was the latter.
Redd's entire post opened up the "American's doing just fine" aspect not me. Do you disagree with what I pointed out? If so, then why?
Reaity Check

Little Rock, AR

#20038 Dec 29, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Then by all means, please do. The IRS takes cash, checks and money orders.
I, for one, choose not to be an enabler. The more I send them, the more they waste. I don't approve of much of what they waste it on either.
Oh no, no, no. Liberals just want to use your money to do good and not theirs. Too much risk.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20040 Dec 29, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Redd's entire post opened up the "American's doing just fine" aspect not me. Do you disagree with what I pointed out? If so, then why?
Your spin;

"American's doing just fine

Redds Quote;

"that so many seem to be doing quite well"

Seems to me your translation lost all scope of of Redds original meaning'

Something you can tell me Mr. Business, if you took every dollar the socialist government pumps into this capitalistic economy VIA social and welfare programs today, how many of you would be in business tomorrow?

Now how many times does that dollar change hand in the community?

Seems to me that "socialist government" is propping you up Mr. Capitalist.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20041 Dec 29, 2012
That should have read:

if you took away every dollar
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20042 Dec 30, 2012
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Your spin;
"American's doing just fine
Redds Quote;
"that so many seem to be doing quite well"
Seems to me your translation lost all scope of of Redds original meaning'
Something you can tell me Mr. Business, if you took every dollar the socialist government pumps into this capitalistic economy VIA social and welfare programs today, how many of you would be in business tomorrow?
Now how many times does that dollar change hand in the community?
Seems to me that "socialist government" is propping you up Mr. Capitalist.
Yep Barney, you and I are just too stupid to realize that the world is coming to an end.....and that Obama is the anti-Christ, people like us, his minions. I guess we're out of place among all the fine, law abiding citizens of such high moral standard...real authentic American Patriots, defenders of the Constitutions and Motherhood.

A bit of advice Barney, don't get in front of these people at a all you can eat, ten dollar buffet....they'll trample your ass.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20043 Dec 30, 2012
shut up please wrote:
I wish you idiots would just shut y'all's mouth and quit embarrassing yourselves. Go kill yourselves.
Times on your side, some of us old folks will pass eventually.

Just be patient.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#20044 Dec 30, 2012
Redd wrote:
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Yep Barney, you and I are just too stupid to realize that the world is coming to an end.....and that Obama is the anti-Christ, people like us, his minions. I guess we're out of place among all the fine, law abiding citizens of such high moral standard...real authentic American Patriots, defenders of the Constitutions and Motherhood.
A bit of advice Barney, don't get in front of these people at a all you can eat, ten dollar buffet....they'll trample your ass.
LMAO, cheap food, and plenty of it, get the hell out of the way!!!!!!!!
shut up please

Jonesboro, AR

#20045 Dec 30, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>Times on your side, some of us old folks will pass eventually.

Just be patient.
I really wish I wouldn't have said that. I was in a bad mood and I apologize.

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