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Billy Bob

Fayetteville, AR

#20031 Dec 29, 2012
Old Army wrote:
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Actually, General Schwarzkopf didn't like the name Herbert nor the nickname Stormin Norman. He preferred "Bear". I probably shouldn't have called him fat but it appeared to me that he didn't meet the Army's weight control standards that caused a lot of good soldiers to be booted out just before retiring. Schwarz means black in German and kopf means head. I served in Vietnam about the time he did but I wasn't the hero that he was. I also served under his command in Southwest Asia during Desert Shield and Desert Storm. I just did my small part but I'm proud to be a retired soldier. Now Dumbkopf, you go ahead and wrap yourself in your Americana flag and continue to attack me.
Yer right so you say.... I could wright a lot on here too but doesn't mean its true. and after your past post's its hard to be-leave anything you say.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20032 Dec 29, 2012
Redd wrote:
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It's quite apparent that some of you don't think you now have the chance to succeed in America, funny that so many seem to be doing quite well. If you've paid attention, got a education, determine to make a place for yourself and your family, work your ass off, save a few bucks and become flexible to relocating if needed, there's no reason to think you can't live the American dream.
It's still there, and if a dumb-ass like myself can see it, so should most of you..
I see it everyday, from my own children.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20033 Dec 29, 2012
Redd wrote:
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I, for one, don't mind paying a little more tax if it helps my Country.
Then by all means, please do. The IRS takes cash, checks and money orders.

I, for one, choose not to be an enabler. The more I send them, the more they waste. I don't approve of much of what they waste it on either.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#20034 Dec 29, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
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I don't know if you have ever owned your own business but I can tell you that business owners are not as wealthy as most Americans believe. The "profits" a business is taxed on is not the number in the checkbook and for most businesses it's very hard to scrape up enough money to pay the taxes the government says you should pay. So with the new taxes coming down the pike reguardless of whether or not we go over the cliff, it will be significantly more difficult for the "average" American to reach prosperity. Your point about Americans doing quite well is spot on when comparing it to the rest of the world but not by American standards which is what every American compares themselves to. The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to.
"The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to."
You nailed that spot on!
shut up please

Jonesboro, AR

#20035 Dec 29, 2012
I wish you idiots would just shut y'all's mouth and quit embarrassing yourselves. Go kill yourselves.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20036 Dec 29, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
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I don't know if you have ever owned your own business but I can tell you that business owners are not as wealthy as most Americans believe. The "profits" a business is taxed on is not the number in the checkbook and for most businesses it's very hard to scrape up enough money to pay the taxes the government says you should pay. So with the new taxes coming down the pike reguardless of whether or not we go over the cliff, it will be significantly more difficult for the "average" American to reach prosperity. Your point about Americans doing quite well is spot on when comparing it to the rest of the world but not by American standards which is what every American compares themselves to. The world standards is as good of an argument for staying away from socialism as there is. There is no better financial structure than capitalism so you make a great point even if you may not have meant to.
He made a "great point" , I have to agree with you to that fact.

Was the point over your head, or did you understand it and subjectively hijacke it, spinning it into Right wing propaganda .

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say

I really suspect it was the latter.
Reaity Check

Little Rock, AR

#20037 Dec 29, 2012
BARNEYII wrote:
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He made a "great point" , I have to agree with you to that fact.
Was the point over your head, or did you understand it and subjectively hijacke it, spinning it into Right wing propaganda .
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say
I really suspect it was the latter.
Redd's entire post opened up the "American's doing just fine" aspect not me. Do you disagree with what I pointed out? If so, then why?
Reaity Check

Little Rock, AR

#20038 Dec 29, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Then by all means, please do. The IRS takes cash, checks and money orders.
I, for one, choose not to be an enabler. The more I send them, the more they waste. I don't approve of much of what they waste it on either.
Oh no, no, no. Liberals just want to use your money to do good and not theirs. Too much risk.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20040 Dec 29, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
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Redd's entire post opened up the "American's doing just fine" aspect not me. Do you disagree with what I pointed out? If so, then why?
Your spin;

"American's doing just fine

Redds Quote;

"that so many seem to be doing quite well"

Seems to me your translation lost all scope of of Redds original meaning'

Something you can tell me Mr. Business, if you took every dollar the socialist government pumps into this capitalistic economy VIA social and welfare programs today, how many of you would be in business tomorrow?

Now how many times does that dollar change hand in the community?

Seems to me that "socialist government" is propping you up Mr. Capitalist.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20041 Dec 29, 2012
That should have read:

if you took away every dollar
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20042 Dec 30, 2012
BARNEYII wrote:
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Your spin;
"American's doing just fine
Redds Quote;
"that so many seem to be doing quite well"
Seems to me your translation lost all scope of of Redds original meaning'
Something you can tell me Mr. Business, if you took every dollar the socialist government pumps into this capitalistic economy VIA social and welfare programs today, how many of you would be in business tomorrow?
Now how many times does that dollar change hand in the community?
Seems to me that "socialist government" is propping you up Mr. Capitalist.
Yep Barney, you and I are just too stupid to realize that the world is coming to an end.....and that Obama is the anti-Christ, people like us, his minions. I guess we're out of place among all the fine, law abiding citizens of such high moral standard...real authentic American Patriots, defenders of the Constitutions and Motherhood.

A bit of advice Barney, don't get in front of these people at a all you can eat, ten dollar buffet....they'll trample your ass.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20043 Dec 30, 2012
shut up please wrote:
I wish you idiots would just shut y'all's mouth and quit embarrassing yourselves. Go kill yourselves.
Times on your side, some of us old folks will pass eventually.

Just be patient.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20044 Dec 30, 2012
Redd wrote:
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Yep Barney, you and I are just too stupid to realize that the world is coming to an end.....and that Obama is the anti-Christ, people like us, his minions. I guess we're out of place among all the fine, law abiding citizens of such high moral standard...real authentic American Patriots, defenders of the Constitutions and Motherhood.
A bit of advice Barney, don't get in front of these people at a all you can eat, ten dollar buffet....they'll trample your ass.
LMAO, cheap food, and plenty of it, get the hell out of the way!!!!!!!!
shut up please

Jonesboro, AR

#20045 Dec 30, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>Times on your side, some of us old folks will pass eventually.

Just be patient.
I really wish I wouldn't have said that. I was in a bad mood and I apologize.
Billy Bob

Fayetteville, AR

#20046 Dec 30, 2012
guest 2 wrote:
Guess what folks we are going over the cliff. Thank your mighty fine president for this he doesn't want to cut spending he wants us to go over the cliff then he gets what he wants. Get ready those paychecks in January are going to be a lot smaller. When he's out of office in four years our debt will be 24 trillion, Obama wouldn't know how to cut spending if it bit him on the butt after all he loves spending your money, it sure ain't coming out of his pocket. So how do you like that 5 million dollar Hawaiian vacation(paid by tax payers) for him and his family for Christmas. Must be nice I've never been able to afford a vacation at Christmas what about any of you?
Last I herd it was Obama that won the election not John Boehner. And yet John Boehner has done nothing but dictate the lower house of congress not to cooperate. It is so obvious that he is protecting his rich buddy's and not thinking about the country. The Republicans can not get over the fact that they lost the election and there ego has been bruised now instead of working together for the grater good of the country they try to block everything. We will not get "tax hikes" the tax will just go back to when Clinton was President and the last time I checked the USA was doing pretty good under his economics. Now before you fools start throwing the word "liberal" around it should be known that I do not like Obama and I didn't like Romney ether I liked Bill Clinton didn't like G.W.Bush liked John McCain didn't like Serra Palin. I'm not a Democrat or a Republican I'm independent. As I'm not blinded by one side or the other I can see the best and worst from both sides. And for the record get ready as when Obama goes out next election Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President as I can not see anyone in the Republican party that is worthy of doing the job. And as for "vacation's" I get to go on one every year with my family. ITS CALLED BUDGETING. Try it.
Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20047 Dec 30, 2012
shut up please wrote:
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I really wish I wouldn't have said that. I was in a bad mood and I apologize.
No need to worry yourself, this is really just a gathering place for a few old vagrant cowpokes formerly employed by the infamous "Circle J Ranch and House of Prostitution"....plus a few strays.
Reaity Check

Little Rock, AR

#20048 Dec 30, 2012
BARNEYII wrote:
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Your spin;
"American's doing just fine
Redds Quote;
"that so many seem to be doing quite well"
Seems to me your translation lost all scope of of Redds original meaning'
Something you can tell me Mr. Business, if you took every dollar the socialist government pumps into this capitalistic economy VIA social and welfare programs today, how many of you would be in business tomorrow?
Now how many times does that dollar change hand in the community?
Seems to me that "socialist government" is propping you up Mr. Capitalist.
You pointed out one of the major flaws in the liberal line of thinking. That is making decisions based on perception. Agreed, I should have taken Redd's statement at face value but instead I gave him the credit for being decisive and firm in his beliefs. Guilty as charged. Liberals say "this group of people seem to be wealthy so lets levy them with X% increase in income taxes and give it to this group who seems to be not doing so well". The reality is that the wealthy group isn't doing near as well as liberals might think and those who are not doing so good are doing far better than liberals might think. Now how can I say that? Because I am one of the ones the liberals think is doing so well and I am not doing near as well as the liberals think. I wish I was. The less fortunate I see are doing far better than many I know that are keeping a 40+hr per week job. They have nicer phones, clothes, cars, and in some case houses and many of them don't even work. One of my tenants is in one of my most expensive houses ($600 per mo.) and she doesn't work at all. Her entire income comes from the government. She drives a solid running car, has a flatscreen tv, comes in and tells me she is buying new things like furniture, she dresses nice, and she also never fails to mention that she has to do this or that to keep her benefits so she doesn't have to go to work. So I am not talking from perception of a government that needs votes and money, I am speaking from what I see and hear from the people living in their very real situations. As for if the government took away the money from the social welfare programs, that depends. If the government gave it back to the working people in the form of lower taxes, I would be doing great, just like I was back pre-Obama. Best years my company ever had were in 2007 and 2008 despite all of the rhetoric about us being in a recession. What about now when government is pumping far more into the social welfare programs? My business is down to 2005 levels by the numbers. If you take the value of the dollar then vs the value of the dollar now, I am probably doing the worst since the company was founded but I have no way to quantify that. The one bright spot is that Obama's capitalist destroying economy has cause me to take a very hard look at the flow of money in and out of my business and as a result we are actually making decent profits but it's at the expense of offering my customers less of the things they need when they come in my store. In other words my business has slowed it's growth to a crawl. My wife and I are not extravagant spenders and we have taken a $15,000 cut in income and with it the ability to have a savings account in order to make sure our business stays strong. So we are living in excess according to the government but reality is far different. We have a good strong business but not near as good and strong as the liberal socialistic government we are living under "percieves" us to have, yet we are paying taxes on that "perception" and it's going to people who don't work like the tenant I described who don't contribute at all to society.
Billy Bob

Fayetteville, AR

#20049 Dec 30, 2012
5 kids, 1 adult die when SUV goes off road into creek. This is sad BUT does this mean we have to ban all SUV's? http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/29/16...

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20050 Dec 30, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
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You pointed out one of the major flaws in the liberal line of thinking. The reality is that the wealthy group isn't doing near as well as liberals might think and those who are not doing so good are doing far better than liberals might think. Now how can I say that? Because I am one of the ones the liberals think is doing so well and I am not doing near as well as the liberals think. I wish I was. The less fortunate I see are doing far better than many I know that are keeping a 40+hr per week job. They have nicer phones, clothes, cars, and in some case houses and many of them don't even work. One of my tenants is in one of my most expensive houses ($600 per mo.) and she doesn't work at all. Her entire income comes from the government. She drives a solid running car, has a flatscreen tv, comes in and tells me she is buying new things like furniture, she dresses nice, and she also never fails to mention that she has to do this or that to keep her benefits so she doesn't have to go to work. So I am not talking from perception of a government that needs votes and money, I am speaking from what I see and hear from the people living in their very real situations. As for if the government took away the money from the social welfare programs, that depends. If the government gave it back to the working people in the form of lower taxes, I would be doing great, just like I was back pre-Obama. Best years my company ever had were in 2007 and 2008 despite all of the rhetoric about us being in a recession. What about now when government is pumping far more into the social welfare programs? My business is down to 2005 levels by the numbers. If you take the value of the dollar then vs the value of the dollar now, I am probably doing the worst since the company was founded but I have no way to quantify that. The one bright spot is that Obama's capitalist destroying economy has cause me to take a very hard look at the flow of money in and out of my business and as a result we are actually making decent profits but it's at the expense of offering my customers less of the things they need when they come in my store. In other words my business has slowed it's growth to a crawl. My wife and I are not extravagant spenders and we have taken a $15,000 cut in income and with it the ability to have a savings account in order to make sure our business stays strong. So we are living in excess according to the government but reality is far different. We have a good strong business but not near as good and strong as the liberal socialistic government we are living under "percieves" us to have, yet we are paying taxes on that "perception" and it's going to people who don't work like the tenant I described who don't contribute at all to society.
Tell me something, which is the worst?

1.someone who "who don't contribute at all to society", but still pays you an income of $600.00 a month.

2. You losing $600.00 in rental income a month.

Being you are renting to that person makes the question a rhetorical one.

BTW- the unemployment rate in April of 2008 starting shooting up fast till it peaked at around 10%. Millions of jobs were lost, this all happening on the watch of one lowest rated Presidents in US history, a self proclaimed Passionate Conservative.


Now just think about that for a minute, why would your business had not done better, before the economy had to be rebuilt.

It took Bush eight years to tear it down, and the socialist Blackman is being hanged because he has not got back to where we were the last time we had a Democrat in the White House


Bottom line, your business is feeling the pain we all felt, and it did not come from a Democrat administration.

Redd

Little Rock, AR

#20051 Dec 30, 2012
Reaity Check wrote:
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You pointed out one of the major flaws in the liberal line of thinking. That is making decisions based on perception. Agreed, I should have taken Redd's statement at face value but instead I gave him the credit for being decisive and firm in his beliefs. Guilty as charged.
Yeah!! I get it now, you seem to think that by my not feeling your pain due to a increasing tax burden, which BTW only restores it to 2004 levels, makes me indecisive and lacking perception.

That's fine.

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