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Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#28760 Jan 22, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
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The fact that 3 Republican political activist judges said it was unconstitutional is a given.
Good grief Charley Brown, of course it was legal for Bush, that is why it was just as legal when Obama did it, and has been the last 100 plus years.
What the Republicans were doing at the time was most relevant. It was the appeals court that upheld what the Republicans were doing as legal, which in their OPINION made Obama's appointments unconstitutional.
Do you even know who the two parties are behind this law suite pending before SCOTUS?
Obviously you are clueless of the chain events that led to Obama making those appointments.
Good grief man, if you are going to argue a point it would help if you knew what you was talking about
Ok, when you wipe away all the asterisks liberals use to justify their argument you are still left with the FACT that legally appointed judges saw Obama's actions as unconstitutional. It wasn't just their opinion but rather how the actions were defined as they stacked up against the way the Constitution was written. Who is behind the lawsuit has no relevance as to whether or not Obama's actions were constitutional or not. They certainly were a result of the unconstitutional ruling but weren't even a thought when Obama decided to act unconstitutionally. If you were going to argue a point it would help if you would not add circumstances and events that happened after the fact to the point being argued. This is a great example of how liberals only want things their way. When John Roberts literally changed the Obama Administrations argument for them from Obamacare being argued as a fine to Obamacare being a tax in the court case on whether or not the law was constitutional or not, liberals had no argument but rather hailed John Roberts as a hero that transcends today's partisan politics. Why? because he voted their way. Now this decision goes against the liberal way and all of a sudden there are political activist running wild and circumstances happening at the time of the appointments were crucial. So crucial, in fact, that they couldn't even be brought up in the case. Maybe they were brought up and liberals still lost.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#28761 Jan 22, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
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Frankly Scarlett, you don't have to be educated to be smart.
You must not be educated because you think you are smart! LOL!

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28762 Jan 22, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
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Ok, when you wipe away all the asterisks liberals use to justify their argument you are still left with the FACT that legally appointed judges saw Obama's actions as unconstitutional. It wasn't just their opinion but rather how the actions were defined as they stacked up against the way the Constitution was written. Who is behind the lawsuit has no relevance as to whether or not Obama's actions were constitutional or not. They certainly were a result of the unconstitutional ruling but weren't even a thought when Obama decided to act unconstitutionally. If you were going to argue a point it would help if you would not add circumstances and events that happened after the fact to the point being argued. This is a great example of how liberals only want things their way. When John Roberts literally changed the Obama Administrations argument for them from Obamacare being argued as a fine to Obamacare being a tax in the court case on whether or not the law was constitutional or not, liberals had no argument but rather hailed John Roberts as a hero that transcends today's partisan politics. Why? because he voted their way. Now this decision goes against the liberal way and all of a sudden there are political activist running wild and circumstances happening at the time of the appointments were crucial. So crucial, in fact, that they couldn't even be brought up in the case. Maybe they were brought up and liberals still lost

As I said, it is a given, what the Appeals Court ruling was.

Now please tell me what,

"circumstances and events that happened after the fact to the point being argued"

did I add?

The bottom line is, the only thing you know for sure is what the appeals court ruling was, you are clueless to the rest of the story, hearing only what you want hear,and making yourself look foolish trying to convince yourself and everyone else you have a clue about what you are talking about.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28763 Jan 22, 2014
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>You must not be educated because you think you are smart! LOL!

Naw, its like I have told you before boy, I am not saying I am smart, just smarter than you, and that is not saying a whole Hell of a lot.
Joe

Chesapeake, VA

#28764 Jan 22, 2014
stress management wrote:
STRESS MANAGEMENT:
In case you are having a rough day, here's a stress management technique recommended in all the latest psychological journals.
The funny thing is that it really does work and will make you smile.
1. Picture yourself lying on your belly on a warm rock that hangs out over a crystal clear pond.
2. Picture yourself with both your hands dangling in the cool water.
3. Birds are sweetly singing in the cool mountain air.
4. No one knows your secret place.
5. You are in total seclusion from that hectic place called the world.
6. The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity.
7. The water is so clear that you can make out the face of the Congressman you are holding underwater.
See, it worked. You feel better already.
nope.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#28765 Jan 22, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
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Naw, its like I have told you before boy, I am not saying I am smart, just smarter than you, and that is not saying a whole Hell of a lot.
That would be almost believable if I didn't have to correct almost every post you post.
Hell that would be believable if YOU didn't have to correct EVERY post you post!
thewritingonthew all

Netherlands

#28767 Jan 22, 2014
Prominent indicators confirm that the U.S. is the chief facilitator of the persecution of Christians around the world today.

According to the recently released 2014 World Watch List, which ranks the 50 nations where Christians are most persecuted, Syria is the third worst nation in the world in which to be Christian, Iraq is fourth, Afghanistan fifth, and Libya 13th. All four countries receive the strongest designation,“extreme persecution”(other designations are “severe,”“moderate,” and “sparse” persecution).

Aside from being so closely and harshly ranked, these four nations have something else in common: heavy U.S. involvement. Three — Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya — were “liberated” thanks to U.S. forces, while in the fourth, Syria, the U.S. is actively sponsoring “freedom fighters” against the regime, many of whom would be better labeled “terrorists.”

The Syrian situation alone indicts U.S. foreign policy. According to Reuters:

Open Doors, a non-denominational group supporting persecuted Christians worldwide, said on Wednesday it had documented 2,123 “martyr” killings, compared with 1,201 in 2012. There were 1,213 such deaths in Syria alone last year, it said.“This is a very minimal count based on what has been reported in the media and we can confirm,” said Frans Veerman, head of research for Open Doors. Estimates by other Christian groups put the annual figure as high as 8,000.

While most Americans are shielded from the true nature of the war by the U.S. media’s reluctance to report on it, Arabic media, websites, and activists daily report and document atrocity after atrocity — beheadings and bombed churches, abducted nuns, Christians slaughtered for refusing to convert to Islam, and countless abducted for ransom or rape — at the hands of those whom the U.S. supports.

It’s enough to point out that “the largest massacre of Christians in Syria,” to quote a top religious leader, was left wholly unreported by any major U.S. news network.
Reality Check

Camden, AR

#28768 Jan 22, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said, it is a given, what the Appeals Court ruling was.
Now please tell me what,
"circumstances and events that happened after the fact to the point being argued"
did I add?
The bottom line is, the only thing you know for sure is what the appeals court ruling was, you are clueless to the rest of the story, hearing only what you want hear,and making yourself look foolish trying to convince yourself and everyone else you have a clue about what you are talking about.
I didn't WANT to hear anything. The decision was what the decision was and it was based on the actions of Obama. You adding your little footnotes of why Obama did what he did is irrelevant. That's like saying a jury finding a man guilty of murder should have their decision thrown out because they had no idea the man killed was sleeping with the killers wife. Or as you would put it "the circumstances leading up to his decision to pull the trigger". It doesn't matter because as long as you, your views, and the people you support who share your views are shed in a negative light, you will continue to make excuses in order to make things right in your mind.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28769 Jan 22, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't WANT to hear anything. The decision was what the decision was and it was based on the actions of Obama. You adding your little footnotes of why Obama did what he did is irrelevant. That's like saying a jury finding a man guilty of murder should have their decision thrown out because they had no idea the man killed was sleeping with the killers wife. Or as you would put it "the circumstances leading up to his decision to pull the trigger". It doesn't matter because as long as you, your views, and the people you support who share your views are shed in a negative light, you will continue to make excuses in order to make things right in your mind.
Tell me something , what did Obama do that made his recess appointment unconstitutional ? What was different in what he did and what has been done over the last 100 + years.

“Frankly my dear...”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#28770 Jan 22, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Frankly Scarlett, you don't have to be educated to be smart.
Frankly Barney, discernment and wisdom are much more becoming than professing education and 'smarts'.
"Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Discernment reveals who's who.
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#28771 Jan 22, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
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Tell me something , what did Obama do that made his recess appointment unconstitutional ? What was different in what he did and what has been done over the last 100 + years.
You know what he did or should I say when he did. He made "recess" appointments when the Senate was not in recess thus bypassing the Senate's constitutional authority to advise and consent on the appointments of high ranking executive branch officials. It still doesn't change the fact that it was unconstitutional (and it was). Besides, recess appointments are constitutional via The Recess Appointments Clause which says that the “President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate." I would argue that had the judges been liberal, Obama would have been found right in his actions though he clearly was not. Just give it up Barney, your president is unconstitutional.
Old Army

Greenbrier, AR

#28772 Jan 23, 2014
BARNEYII wrote:
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I don't care about you, but how are the dogs doing?
Welcome back.
Thank you for the warm welcome. We gained one dog but lost another. Hate to say it but they don't give a damn about you either. How's Rick?
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#28773 Jan 23, 2014
This new Obama Care is laughable. Liberals ruin everything they touch. All government should stay the hell out of our personal business..
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#28774 Jan 23, 2014
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#28775 Jan 23, 2014
What does big government lead to? Coming to a city near you.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/22/uk...

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28776 Jan 23, 2014
Old Army wrote:
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Thank you for the warm welcome. We gained one dog but lost another. Hate to say it but they don't give a damn about you either. How's Rick?
Your welcome, sorry about your loss.

He pops in ever now and then ,I suppose he is doing well.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#28777 Jan 23, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
What does big government lead to? Coming to a city near you.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/22/uk...
You are correct. It's what LIBERALISM brings. It won't be long before the people paying for everything in this country run out of money or refuse to pay for the lazy people anymore and our streets will be on fire also. I have prepared for that day. Bring it.........
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#28778 Jan 23, 2014
WARRIOR wrote:
This new Obama Care is laughable. Liberals ruin everything they touch. All government should stay the hell out of our personal business..
The insurance companies are now saying that the low Obamacare enrollment numbers are going to drive them out of business. Exactly what Obama wants. He and his administration have lobbied for single payer since the beginning and they are now working towards just that. The website debacle wasn't an accident but rather by design to give the insurance companies flawed data. This way the insurance companies can't accurately quote anyone making it look like they have no idea what they are doing. I'm not sure the low enrollment numbers are not by design either but that won't be known until the single payer system gets in place. If, when we are forced to switch to single payer, and the number of enrollees skyrocket we will know that the low initial sign-ups were by design.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#28779 Jan 23, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what he did or should I say when he did. He made "recess" appointments when the Senate was not in recess thus bypassing the Senate's constitutional authority to advise and consent on the appointments of high ranking executive branch officials. It still doesn't change the fact that it was unconstitutional (and it was). Besides, recess appointments are constitutional via The Recess Appointments Clause which says that the “President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate." I would argue that had the judges been liberal, Obama would have been found right in his actions though he clearly was not. Just give it up Barney, your president is unconstitutional.
I know what he did,and when he did it.

Now that you have some -what of an idea of what you are talking about, lets look a little deeper.

First of all it was Congress that was in recess, not just the Senate.

The problem is ,Congress was in recess.

They had this scheme of how we can go back to our districts and claim we are in session at the same time by using Parliamentary procedure.

They leave one Republican behind to come to a empty gallery every few days bang the gavel
and declare congress in session, till they get back from vacation. HOW CLEVER

Now, don't you think it would have been rather difficult for the Senate to debate and

"advise and consent on the appointments of high ranking executive branch officials"

when they were not in Washington D.C ?.

Although it made it very easy for Republicans to strip the President of his constitutional authority to use the,

Recess Appointments Clause which says that the “President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate."

The ,Recess Appointments Clause, has been the law for well over a hundred years now.

Do you really think that Congress was the first to come with the Idea to use this procedure to block a recess appointment.

I would highly doubt it, just the only ones arrogant , and stupid enough, VIA -
TEA PART, to try and pull it off.

If the decision that is expected in June comes down against the Republicans, I would just about bet the decision will not be released till after mid term elections.

If it goes against the Democrats I would say this Republican stacked court will issue its ruling well before mid- term election.

We shall see how it plays out.

There you have it have my man.

A small group of Right Wing extremist was having their cake and eating it too, just as a added bonus they strip the President of his constitutional authority.

How do defend that?
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#28780 Jan 23, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
The insurance companies are now saying that the low Obamacare enrollment numbers are going to drive them out of business. Exactly what Obama wants. He and his administration have lobbied for single payer since the beginning and they are now working towards just that. The website debacle wasn't an accident but rather by design to give the insurance companies flawed data. This way the insurance companies can't accurately quote anyone making it look like they have no idea what they are doing. I'm not sure the low enrollment numbers are not by design either but that won't be known until the single payer system gets in place. If, when we are forced to switch to single payer, and the number of enrollees skyrocket we will know that the low initial sign-ups were by design.
We tried to tell them that.

Liberals see the world the way they want it to be, Conservatives see the world the way it is.......

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