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Mar 31, 2013
 
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Something for all you "Doomsayers" to consider.
The US produces domestically 83.2% of the total energy it consumes now and production is still in it's infancy.
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Posted on 03/28/2013 by Juan Cole
It turns out that 25% of Republicans don’t like their own party.
The Republican Party has a structural problem, in that it has only two main constituencies: the very wealthy and the white Religious Right. Both are tiny but powerful minorities. Neither is at all representative of the US population. Both want to impose policies on the whole country that suit them but which are unwelcome to most people.
The poll also shows that 60% of Americans in general don’t like the GOP, which is what pollsters call “high negatives.” It is one thing to be an independent or generally a Democratic, another to actively despise the Republican Party. Even 60% of independents don’t like the GOP.
The Republican business elite wants to avoid paying taxes and to saddle the middle class with the tax burden instead. The evangelicals and right-wing Catholics want to impose their moral strictures on the rest of the country. Both policies look selfish and unfair.
It is their indebtedness to the religious Right that causes Republicans to oppose things like gay marriage, which now has the support of some two-thirds of Americans. As they move out of the mainstream to the margins of national politics, they look narrow-minded and selfish.
Then there are those who generally vote republican, who aren't very wealthy or extremely religious, like me, who believe in the right keep their hard-earned money and the right to defend ourselves, but have almost no other options to vote for besides republicans that will half-heartedly fight for those rights.

In reality, both parties need to relinquish control of other peoples lives. I don't need someone else deciding that I need to wear a seatbelt, have an airbag or have my trans fats limited.

And someone else doesn't need to be told who they can have a relationship with.

The pursuit of happiness means different things to different people. As long as nobody's rights are being infringed on, I don't give a crap what anyone else does. And they don't need to worry about me either.

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If what you say is correct then answer me this. Why is it that with leaders like Reagan in office 401K's soared? The upper class were rich and the the middle and lower classes were comfortable. Taxes were low and disposable income was plentiful. This is an undeniable fact. Contrast that with Obama. 401K's are depleted or gone altogether. The rich are comfortable and the middle and lower classes are suffering terribly. Taxes are soaring with promises that they WILL go up for everyone though Obama promised otherwise. As for disposable income, it's a rare thing for most. The contrast is as clear as night and day and I don't know how any American, especially one who was able to work in the era of Reagan, could defend this president's policies.
I don't defend this presidents policies, but if someones 401k is depleted or gone, I can't say Obama had anything to do with that.

I was not working during the Reagan years, but I was during Bush, Clinton and Bush. I do remember a time when things were good. The economy was soaring. Home values were rising fast. Everyone was spending like crazy,(including money they didn't yet have). People were all buying houses, or multiple houses, even if they couldn't afford them. Families all had new cars in the driveway, that depreciated over time, and many years of car payments. Tons of debt, and no guarantees of jobs that lasted forever. Yeah; I remember those days.

That was all fake. People with any sense knew that couldn't last. People with any sense saved for hard times. Even squirrels know they should save for hard times.
Nobody can blame a president for the hard times of citizens. Not Obama. Not Bush.

The correction that was coming happened. Most people created the mess they are in now by not preparing for it when they had a chance. Back when they were spending like crazy, including all those interest payments to credit cards and car companies. Let's not forget cigarettes, alcohol, lottery tickets, casinos, restaurants, fast foods, tanning booths, gym memberships, cable tv, etc.

But I must say, Obama has hurt the poor or middle class making the situation they got themselves into even worse.
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I don't defend this presidents policies, but if someones 401k is depleted or gone, I can't say Obama had anything to do with that.
I was not working during the Reagan years, but I was during Bush, Clinton and Bush. I do remember a time when things were good. The economy was soaring. Home values were rising fast. Everyone was spending like crazy,(including money they didn't yet have). People were all buying houses, or multiple houses, even if they couldn't afford them. Families all had new cars in the driveway, that depreciated over time, and many years of car payments. Tons of debt, and no guarantees of jobs that lasted forever. Yeah; I remember those days.
That was all fake. People with any sense knew that couldn't last. People with any sense saved for hard times. Even squirrels know they should save for hard times.
Nobody can blame a president for the hard times of citizens. Not Obama. Not Bush.
The correction that was coming happened. Most people created the mess they are in now by not preparing for it when they had a chance. Back when they were spending like crazy, including all those interest payments to credit cards and car companies. Let's not forget cigarettes, alcohol, lottery tickets, casinos, restaurants, fast foods, tanning booths, gym memberships, cable tv, etc.
But I must say, Obama has hurt the poor or middle class making the situation they got themselves into even worse.
Agreed. Good post
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Was it Obama or Lenin who said thiese things:

The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.

The surest way to destroy a nation is to debauch its currency.

Destroy the family, you destroy the country.

A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.

Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.

We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.



--- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

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So how can over 873,000 people come off the unemployment rolls when there were only a little over 114,000 jobs created? Below is a transcript of a conversation between two eminent economists discussing this very question!

COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .

ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: You just said 7.8%.

ABBOTT: 7.8% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 7.8% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 14.7% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 7.8% or 14.7%?

ABBOTT: 7.8% are unemployed. 14.7% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, Congress said you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed.

You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: BUT THEY ARE OUT OF WORK!!!

ABBOTT: No, you miss his point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To whom?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ALL of them are out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work. Those who are out of work gave up looking and if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment roles that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how they get it to 7.8%. Otherwise it would be 14.7%. Our govt. Doesn't want you to read about 14.7% unemployment.



COSTELLO: That would be tough on those running for reelection.



ABBOTT: Absolutely.



COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?
ABBOTT: Bingo.
COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to have people stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an Economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like Congress

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WARRIOR wrote:
Was it Obama or Lenin who said thiese things:
The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.
The surest way to destroy a nation is to debauch its currency.
Destroy the family, you destroy the country.
A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.
Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.
We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.
--- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
I bet you find no hypocrisy at all in trying to make a political statement by writing words,

"which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with" you.

Excuse me if misinterpreted the meaning of your post, but I suspect it was not meant to reflect kindly on President Obama.

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So how can over 873,000 people come off the unemployment rolls when there were only a little over 114,000 jobs created?
This will bring some jobs to your state,

The Environmental Protection Agency declared the Arkansas leak a “major spill,” a label put on any spill of 250 barrels or more.


Posted: 01 Apr 2013 07:00 AM PDT

Video taken by a resident of Northwoods subdivision in Mayflower, Arkansas of oil seeping up from the ground.

The Exxon Pegasus tar sands pipeline, which was shut down on March 29 after a rupture was detected in Arkansas, will need to be excavated as the company looks to determine what caused the breach, a spokeswoman said.

There is still no specific estimate of how much crude oil had spilled, but Exxon said on Sunday that 12,000 barrels of oil and water had been recovered - up from 4,500 barrels on Saturday. Inside Climate News reports that the Environmental Protection Agency has estimated the spill at 84,000 gallons

Exxon was hit with a $1.7 million fine by regulators just last week over a 2011 spill in the Yellowstone River.

“This latest pipeline incident is a troubling reminder that oil companies still have not proven that they can safely transport Canadian tar sands oil across the United States without creating risks to our citizens and our environment,
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BARNEYII wrote:
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This will bring some jobs to your state,
The Environmental Protection Agency declared the Arkansas leak a “major spill,” a label put on any spill of 250 barrels or more.
Posted: 01 Apr 2013 07:00 AM PDT
Video taken by a resident of Northwoods subdivision in Mayflower, Arkansas of oil seeping up from the ground.
The Exxon Pegasus tar sands pipeline, which was shut down on March 29 after a rupture was detected in Arkansas, will need to be excavated as the company looks to determine what caused the breach, a spokeswoman said.
There is still no specific estimate of how much crude oil had spilled, but Exxon said on Sunday that 12,000 barrels of oil and water had been recovered - up from 4,500 barrels on Saturday. Inside Climate News reports that the Environmental Protection Agency has estimated the spill at 84,000 gallons
Exxon was hit with a $1.7 million fine by regulators just last week over a 2011 spill in the Yellowstone River.
“This latest pipeline incident is a troubling reminder that oil companies still have not proven that they can safely transport Canadian tar sands oil across the United States without creating risks to our citizens and our environment,
Not until Obama decided to go after the oil companies did we ever hear about all the spills that occur every year. The U.S. government estimates that there are approximately 20,000 oil spills each year and it's been that way for quite a while. Obama wants to get the support for the uninformed voter so he demonizes the profits oil companies make. He also wants to fill his and his cronies pockets so he demonizes the "harmful effects" of oil spills on the environment in order to gain support for the green movement. It's really pathetic that Obama uses these tactics but it's even more pathetic that people actually believe him. Your post is a perfect example.
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BARNEYII wrote:
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I bet you find no hypocrisy at all in trying to make a political statement by writing words,
"which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with" you.
Excuse me if misinterpreted the meaning of your post, but I suspect it was not meant to reflect kindly on President Obama.
No, the fact that the man you blindly and ignorantly worship, our president, Obama is copying communists and socialists is not supposed to "reflect kindly" on him. Unless, of course, as you have made us well aware you agree with the way he is purposefully hurting American citizens for "the fundamental transformation of America."
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BARNEYII wrote:
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I bet you find no hypocrisy at all in trying to make a political statement by writing words,
"which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with" you.
Excuse me if misinterpreted the meaning of your post, but I suspect it was not meant to reflect kindly on President Obama.
You're excused!
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BARNEYII wrote:
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This will bring some jobs to your state,
The Environmental Protection Agency declared the Arkansas leak a “major spill,” a label put on any spill of 250 barrels or more.
Posted: 01 Apr 2013 07:00 AM PDT
Video taken by a resident of Northwoods subdivision in Mayflower, Arkansas of oil seeping up from the ground.
The Exxon Pegasus tar sands pipeline, which was shut down on March 29 after a rupture was detected in Arkansas, will need to be excavated as the company looks to determine what caused the breach, a spokeswoman said.
There is still no specific estimate of how much crude oil had spilled, but Exxon said on Sunday that 12,000 barrels of oil and water had been recovered - up from 4,500 barrels on Saturday. Inside Climate News reports that the Environmental Protection Agency has estimated the spill at 84,000 gallons
Exxon was hit with a $1.7 million fine by regulators just last week over a 2011 spill in the Yellowstone River.
“This latest pipeline incident is a troubling reminder that oil companies still have not proven that they can safely transport Canadian tar sands oil across the United States without creating risks to our citizens and our environment,
This is Obama's fault..

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guest wrote:
<quoted text>No, the fact that the man you blindly and ignorantly worship, our president, Obama is copying communists and socialists is not supposed to "reflect kindly" on him. Unless, of course, as you have made us well aware you agree with the way he is purposefully hurting American citizens for "the fundamental transformation of America."
Do you think your, copying of communists and socialists strategies reflect kindly, or wisely, on you?

You must!
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BARNEYII wrote:
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Do you think your, copying of communists and socialists strategies reflect kindly, or wisely, on you?
You must!
DO you think your, following of communists and socialists strategies reflect kindly, or wisely on you?

You must!
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Vote for what oblama lives like a 1 percenter, a gang of eight without asking you are going to bring 30 million mexicans into the country, if your black your gonna vote for a blackperson no matter they hate the country and want it to be gay. What in the h@ll are you voting for?
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vote wrote:
Vote for what oblama lives like a 1 percenter, a gang of eight without asking you are going to bring 30 million mexicans into the country, if your black your gonna vote for a blackperson no matter they hate the country and want it to be gay. What in the h@ll are you voting for?

IM voting to keep your deranged ass away from the computer.
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Big Ed wrote:
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IM voting to keep your deranged ass away from the computer.
I'm voting to send your dumb ass back to Salem!
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BARNEYII wrote:
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Do you think your, copying of communists and socialists strategies reflect kindly, or wisely, on you?
You must!
If I had, I would not, but since I did not, I can not for something I did not do.

Nice try, but your own hypocrisy and ingorance got in the way... again.
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It's your right !!!
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<quoted text>If I had, I would not, but since I did not, I can not for something I did not do.
Nice try, but your own hypocrisy and ingorance got in the way... again.
Oh really, I ask that question of the Warrior.

Why are you replying?

After all you two are different people, as you said, right?

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WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>DO you think your, following of communists and socialists strategies reflect kindly, or wisely on you?
You must!
Oh really, I ask that question of the Guest.

Why are you replying?

After all you two are different people, as you said, right?

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