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Concerned parent

United States

#23972 Mar 19, 2013
Yes!!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23974 Mar 20, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Ive been harping on that for years, I want the goverment to go after those lawbreakers who hire & work the Illegals. Punish them so severely no one would dare work illegals. And they would leave in droves. My digs at Rand Paul where aimed at Raptor because of her infatuation with Ron Paul and her putting the pauls on a pedistal. She apparently believed their star shined brighter than all the other politicans. But Paul letting them become citizens makes the solution of going after the lawbreaking employers worthless.
The democrats don't care about the illegal alien, they care about the illegal alien VOTE!

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#23975 Mar 20, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>The democrats don't care about the illegal alien, they care about the illegal alien VOTE!
What would be the motivation for Republicans, to help illegal aliens become citizens?

..........

The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.

Sen. Rand Paul
guest

United States

#23976 Mar 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
What would be the motivation for Republicans, to help illegal aliens become citizens?
..........
The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.
Sen. Rand Paul
Once again, your post goes more to proving the point that you are trying to refute then helping your own weak agenda. Keep up the good work of proving the errors of liberals!
curmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#23977 Mar 20, 2013
The parlament in Cyprus voted down the tax on bank accounts. It sees the russian Mafia has billons in those banks. you dont rob from the Russian Mafia. Those folks saved their lives by voting it down. The Russians will take over Cyprus money affairs after they let the Russians have the rights to the Gas reserves and the navil base.
curmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#23978 Mar 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
What would be the motivation for Republicans, to help illegal aliens become citizens?
..........
The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.
Sen. Rand Paul
The only motivation would to be to court votes. Anyone who would sell out just for votes isnt any good. They dont have the contrys best interest in mind. They are doing it for selfesh political gain. There are lots of US citizens who are here legally who wish to work. and there isnt a place for them. Of course they dont work for slave lablor wages and live 18 to a room like the illegals. After they gain citizenship the illegals wont work so cheap.
curmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#23979 Mar 20, 2013
One could only laugh as such a comment; of course Cyprus was complacent about laundering. To think otherwise was and is nai&#776;ve. Ah, but now you’ve stolen Russia money... or soon shall depending upon the vote in the Cypriot parliament... and that is dangerous... very. One does not steal Russian mafia money and get away with it. There are fewer statements of fact that are more certain, more factual, more unyielding than this statement. Russian Mafia figures do not take well to being stolen from, and they take even less well to be made fools of. We see no reason to mince words at this point: People will be hurt over this decision; some shall be killed."

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#23980 Mar 20, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Once again, your post goes more to proving the point that you are trying to refute then helping your own weak agenda. Keep up the good work of proving the errors of liberals!
What a surprise, ask you a simple question you cannot answer and your straw man pops up.

And tell me, just what point was I allegedly trying to refute.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23981 Mar 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
What would be the motivation for Republicans, to help illegal aliens become citizens?
..........
The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.
Sen. Rand Paul
There is no motivation. Illegal aliens are a drain on society.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23982 Mar 20, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> The only motivation would to be to court votes. Anyone who would sell out just for votes isnt any good. They dont have the contrys best interest in mind. They are doing it for selfesh political gain. There are lots of US citizens who are here legally who wish to work. and there isnt a place for them. Of course they dont work for slave lablor wages and live 18 to a room like the illegals. After they gain citizenship the illegals wont work so cheap.
WASHINGTON – Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., the winner of the Conservative Political Action Conference straw poll for 2016 only days ago, is denying an Associated Press report that he supports a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.

The AP’s Erica Werner reported Paul told a Hispanic business group that illegal aliens should be allowed to become U.S. taxpayers and ultimately get a shot at citizenship.


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However, Paul told the Washington Post, which carried the original story, the reporting was inaccurate.

“I didn’t use the word citizenship at all this morning,” he said.“Basically what I want to do is to expand the worker visa program, have border security and then as far as how people become citizens, there already is a process for how people become citizens.”

Paul said the “main difference is I wouldn’t have people be forced to go home.”

“You’d just get in line. But you get in the same line everyone is in,” he said.

At RedState.com , Erick Erickson backed Paul.

“I have read the entirety of Rand Paul’s speech. I have spoken directly to the senator,” he said.“Nowhere in his speech does he use the word ‘citizenship.’ In fact, the word citizen is only used once, in reference to Rand Paul himself saying,‘As a teenager, I was not always the model citizen that I am today.’”

The RedState report said Paul was talking about fixing the guest worker program, not giving citizenship.

On social media, the senator said:“In the 1986 immigration plan, border security was promised in exchange for what amounted to amnesty. It never happened. I’m opposed to amnesty and my plan demands a secure border before immigration reform.”

On his U.S. Senate website, he makes clear he does not support amnesty and considers illegal immigration a “clear threat to our nation’s security”:


I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.

I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.

Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation’s security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/rand-paul-flip-flo...
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Kansas City, MO

#23983 Mar 20, 2013
...ok
what

Fairview Heights, IL

#23984 Mar 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
What a surprise, ask you a simple question you cannot answer and your straw man pops up.
And tell me, just what point was I allegedly trying to refute.
Can't you read and understand your own posts?
Hmmm

United States

#23985 Mar 20, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you call responsible government, sound economic policy and logical taxation "insane?"
Because it has proven responsible only to those in power and neglects the changing demographics of this country.

Because presently it has been proven from experience to be a flawed and eventually failed economic philosophy. One must use common sense when examining a flat tax as a alternative.

Because it won't work, not enough revenue to feed the necessities required to keep this nation viable in a changing world. Because it will only further concentrate wealth and power into the hands of those already controlling much of government.

But mostly, because a political movement somewhat populated by doomsday preppers and secessionist radicals will eventually destroy democracy and it's inherent freedom.
curmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#23986 Mar 20, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it has proven responsible only to those in power and neglects the changing demographics of this country.
Because presently it has been proven from experience to be a flawed and eventually failed economic philosophy. One must use common sense when examining a flat tax as a alternative.
Because it won't work, not enough revenue to feed the necessities required to keep this nation viable in a changing world. Because it will only further concentrate wealth and power into the hands of those already controlling much of government.
But mostly, because a political movement somewhat populated by doomsday preppers and secessionist radicals will eventually destroy democracy and it's inherent freedom.
Its not a democracy. Its a Republic. A republic where the counstitional god given rights of the few cannott be infringed by the wishes of the many. Even if the few is just one person and the many is everyone else. Democracy is nothing but mob rule. deomcracy is two wolves & a sheep voting on what to eat for supper. There is not a inherent freedom in a democracy.
curmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#23987 Mar 20, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
WASHINGTON – Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., the winner of the Conservative Political Action Conference straw poll for 2016 only days ago, is denying an Associated Press report that he supports a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.
The AP’s Erica Werner reported Paul told a Hispanic business group that illegal aliens should be allowed to become U.S. taxpayers and ultimately get a shot at citizenship.
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However, Paul told the Washington Post, which carried the original story, the reporting was inaccurate.
“I didn’t use the word citizenship at all this morning,” he said.“Basically what I want to do is to expand the worker visa program, have border security and then as far as how people become citizens, there already is a process for how people become citizens.”
Paul said the “main difference is I wouldn’t have people be forced to go home.”
“You’d just get in line. But you get in the same line everyone is in,” he said.
At RedState.com , Erick Erickson backed Paul.
“I have read the entirety of Rand Paul’s speech. I have spoken directly to the senator,” he said.“Nowhere in his speech does he use the word ‘citizenship.’ In fact, the word citizen is only used once, in reference to Rand Paul himself saying,‘As a teenager, I was not always the model citizen that I am today.’”
The RedState report said Paul was talking about fixing the guest worker program, not giving citizenship.
On social media, the senator said:“In the 1986 immigration plan, border security was promised in exchange for what amounted to amnesty. It never happened. I’m opposed to amnesty and my plan demands a secure border before immigration reform.”
On his U.S. Senate website, he makes clear he does not support amnesty and considers illegal immigration a “clear threat to our nation’s security”:
I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.
Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.
I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.
Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation’s security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/rand-paul-flip-flo...
The main difference I wouldnt have people forced to go home." thats enough! come here illegaly and after your here he wouldnt deport them. that the same thing as just putting out a welcome sign.
Hmmm

United States

#23988 Mar 20, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text>Its not a democracy. Its a Republic. A republic where the counstitional god given rights of the few cannott be infringed by the wishes of the many. Even if the few is just one person and the many is everyone else. Democracy is nothing but mob rule. deomcracy is two wolves & a sheep voting on what to eat for supper. There is not a inherent freedom in a democracy.
Federal
Main article: Federal state
States in which the federal government shares power with semi-independent regional governments. The central government may or may not be (in theory) a creation of the regional governments; prime examples are Switzerland and the United States.
Argentina (23 provinces and one autonomous city (Buenos Aires)
Australia (six states and three territories)
Austria (nine states)
Belgium (three regions and three linguistic communities)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Republika Srpska and their condominium Br&#269;ko District)
Brazil (26 states and the Federal District)
Canada (ten provinces and three territories)
Comoros (Anjouan, Grande Comore, Mohéli)
Ethiopia (nine regions and three chartered cities)
Germany (16 states)
India (28 states and seven union territories)
Iraq (18 governorates and one one region (Iraqi Kurdistan)
Malaysia (13 states and three federal territories)
Mexico (31 states and one federal district (Mexico City)
Federated States of Micronesia (Chuuk, Kosrae, Pohnpei and Yap)
Nepal (14 zones)
Nigeria (36 states and one federal territory (the Federal Capital Territory)
Pakistan (4 provinces, 2 autonomous areas and 2 territories)
Russia (46 oblasts, 21 republics, nine krais, four autonomous okrugs, two federal cities, one autonomous oblast)
Saint Kitts and Nevis (two states)
South Sudan (10 states)
Sudan (17 states)
Switzerland (26 cantons)
United Arab Emirates (seven emirates)
United States (50 states, one incorporated territory, and one federal district (Washington, D.C.)
Venezuela (23 states, one cap

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23989 Mar 20, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it has proven responsible only to those in power and neglects the changing demographics of this country.
Because presently it has been proven from experience to be a flawed and eventually failed economic philosophy. One must use common sense when examining a flat tax as a alternative.
Because it won't work, not enough revenue to feed the necessities required to keep this nation viable in a changing world. Because it will only further concentrate wealth and power into the hands of those already controlling much of government.
But mostly, because a political movement somewhat populated by doomsday preppers and secessionist radicals will eventually destroy democracy and it's inherent freedom.
Individuals do not have freedom in a democracy! In a democracy the majority rules. Think about what that can do to freedom when the majority are blood-sucking parasites.
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#23990 Mar 20, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
.
"Because it won't work, not enough revenue to feed the necessities required"

What do you call the NECESSITIES? You mean like entitlements so many able body people have come to enjoy?
WARRIOR

Washington, DC

#23991 Mar 20, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text>Its not a democracy. Its a Republic. A republic where the counstitional god given rights of the few cannott be infringed by the wishes of the many. Even if the few is just one person and the many is everyone else. Democracy is nothing but mob rule. deomcracy is two wolves & a sheep voting on what to eat for supper. There is not a inherent freedom in a democracy.
Good post!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23992 Mar 20, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> The main difference I wouldnt have people forced to go home." thats enough! come here illegaly and after your here he wouldnt deport them. that the same thing as just putting out a welcome sign.
Of course I don't agree with Paul on that. But who running for office is going to say send them home? Tom Tancredo maybe...and you saw what happened to him. He had a great illegal immigration plan...and he is no longer in office....so his plan does absolutely NOTHING to fix the problem.

The more I think about it, I'd rather see a politician say he wont send them home, get elected, and then....send them home!

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