good news atwoods is coming
Woohoo

El Dorado, AR

#125 Feb 26, 2013
Love Atwoods. Daddy going to get some new boots
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#126 Feb 26, 2013
Nope wrote:
Ok, build a river in El Dorado and convince the state to put up a billion dollars. There you go, problem solved...
my point was we need to concentrate more on industry not retail, would not have to be a steel mill like oceola, just industry.....real jobs.....not shifting retail jobs from one location to another, and if you don't think that is exactly what is about to happen then just hide and watch.
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#127 Feb 26, 2013
Woohoo wrote:
Love Atwoods. Daddy going to get some new boots
So this is the first pair of boots daddy has ever bought ?
CPA passin wit Dsss

Rowlett, TX

#128 Feb 26, 2013
CPA wrote:
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my point was we need to concentrate more on industry not retail, would not have to be a steel mill like oceola, just industry.....real jobs.....not shifting retail jobs from one location to another, and if you don't think that is exactly what is about to happen then just hide and watch.
This couldn't be further from the truth.
nutural

El Dorado, AR

#129 Feb 26, 2013
CPA passin wit Dsss wrote:
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This couldn't be further from the truth.
I agree with CPA, u couldnt be further from the truth.
This city and county lacks the skills to bring in factories and any type of large industrial employers so they have to settle for retail recuits to try to justify some reason for keeping them around, it will take a hell of alot more than retail to save this town, someone has to make some money to spend at those stores, Obamas freebies will run dry someday.
NATural

Rowlett, TX

#130 Feb 26, 2013
nutural wrote:
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I agree with CPA, u couldnt be further from the truth.
This city and county lacks the skills to bring in factories and any type of large industrial employers so they have to settle for retail recuits to try to justify some reason for keeping them around, it will take a hell of alot more than retail to save this town, someone has to make some money to spend at those stores, Obamas freebies will run dry someday.
A "nut" would agree with that crazy bullshit posted by CPA.
Or maybe

El Dorado, AR

#131 Feb 27, 2013
CPA wrote:
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my point was we need to concentrate more on industry not retail, would not have to be a steel mill like oceola, just industry.....real jobs.....not shifting retail jobs from one location to another, and if you don't think that is exactly what is about to happen then just hide and watch.
Why can't we do both? Thermaflight has 30 manufacturing employees and is adding more, and the city recruited them. If we have all industry and no retail options, nobody will want to move here. Playing protectionism games doesn't do anyone any good.
Agreed

Dallas, TX

#132 Feb 27, 2013
Or maybe wrote:
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Why can't we do both? Thermaflight has 30 manufacturing employees and is adding more, and the city recruited them. If we have all industry and no retail options, nobody will want to move here. Playing protectionism games doesn't do anyone any good.
Well said!
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#133 Feb 27, 2013
Or maybe wrote:
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Why can't we do both? Thermaflight has 30 manufacturing employees and is adding more, and the city recruited them. If we have all industry and no retail options, nobody will want to move here. Playing protectionism games doesn't do anyone any good.
Nothing wrong with having both, that is the way it is suppose to work, but we have lost thousands of industrial jobs over the past few years (several thousand) so you think by thermflite bringing in 30 jobs will support all the new retail ? HARDLY ! IT JUST DON'T WORK THAT WAY, we are trying to put the cart ahead of the horse, sorry that dog won't hunt.
Nope

El Dorado, AR

#134 Feb 27, 2013
CPA wrote:
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Nothing wrong with having both, that is the way it is suppose to work, but we have lost thousands of industrial jobs over the past few years (several thousand) so you think by thermflite bringing in 30 jobs will support all the new retail ? HARDLY ! IT JUST DON'T WORK THAT WAY, we are trying to put the cart ahead of the horse, sorry that dog won't hunt.
So what's your idea, genius? Set a goal of industrial jobs, and don't recruit retail until you hit that goal? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

In the meantime, our sales tax dollars will remain lower than they could have been, because you don't want any new retail. Higher sales tax collections mean more economic development funding, which could translate into more projects like Thermaflight.

Sorry, your dog is the lazy one.
actually

Maumelle, AR

#135 Feb 27, 2013
CPA wrote:
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Nothing wrong with having both, that is the way it is suppose to work, but we have lost thousands of industrial jobs over the past few years (several thousand) so you think by thermflite bringing in 30 jobs will support all the new retail ? HARDLY ! IT JUST DON'T WORK THAT WAY, we are trying to put the cart ahead of the horse, sorry that dog won't hunt.
Sounds like your hunting dog got hit by a car. We have not "lost thousands of industrial jobs over the past few years (several thousand)." We lost a couple thousand jobs over 10 years ago (closer to 15 or 20 years ago). In the past few years, more jobs have been added by small employers and retail than by large employers. More industrial jobs is not the answer. The large corporations here have been steadily hiring, and new small and mid-size businesses opening up have been the greatest benefit to our workforce. Putting all your eggs in one basket, crossing your fingers, and hoping one large company will come in and answeruall of our prayers is just as ridiculous as believing one group or family spends more here than a group of 20 or more families that are hired by a new employer. Chipping away at local unemployment with new retail, restaurants, and entertainment will entice more business owners to consider moving their operations here, creating an environment of success and prosperity. So you can understand: that dog will track em every time!
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#136 Feb 27, 2013
Nope wrote:
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So what's your idea, genius? Set a goal of industrial jobs, and don't recruit retail until you hit that goal? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
In the meantime, our sales tax dollars will remain lower than they could have been, because you don't want any new retail. Higher sales tax collections mean more economic development funding, which could translate into more projects like Thermaflight.
Sorry, your dog is the lazy one.
There will not be more sales tax collected, there is only one PIE in Eldorado you can only slice that pie so many times then no one is making a profit.....atwoods is not bringing in one item that you could not have already have bought in Eldorado at competitive prices, so how are they going to increase tax dollars ? after you deduct the tax dollars from the sales lost to them from other local merchants it will all equal the same, Ask Magnolia , Camden, Crossett how many more tax dollars are collected now with atwoods than before, Now if add a few hundred industrial jobs to the area you will see a brisk tax increase because there will be more money to spend.

Pilgrims pride...gone
cooper tire ....gone
precolite.....gone
georgia pacific.....gone
many, many other real jobs gone, and all we can do is recuit retail to choke out the retail we already have, THIS MAKES SENSE TO YOU ?

ASK THE CHINESE BUFFETS IN TOWN HOW THEY LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE LOOKING FOR THERE FUTURE.
Nope

El Dorado, AR

#137 Feb 27, 2013
CPA wrote:
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There will not be more sales tax collected, there is only one PIE in Eldorado you can only slice that pie so many times then no one is making a profit.....atwoods is not bringing in one item that you could not have already have bought in Eldorado at competitive prices, so how are they going to increase tax dollars ? after you deduct the tax dollars from the sales lost to them from other local merchants it will all equal the same, Ask Magnolia , Camden, Crossett how many more tax dollars are collected now with atwoods than before, Now if add a few hundred industrial jobs to the area you will see a brisk tax increase because there will be more money to spend.
Pilgrims pride...gone
cooper tire ....gone
precolite.....gone
georgia pacific.....gone
many, many other real jobs gone, and all we can do is recuit retail to choke out the retail we already have, THIS MAKES SENSE TO YOU ?
ASK THE CHINESE BUFFETS IN TOWN HOW THEY LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE LOOKING FOR THERE FUTURE.
You're still wrong. The more retail we have, the more money people will spend here. Atwoods is a perfect example. You say we have everything we need. Then why do I hear about so many people in El Dorado who drive to an Atwoods in another town? That's why having a successful mall is so important. It keeps people from going out of town to shop so often, and it also gets people to come to town to spend money when otherwise they would not.

You're doing this silly either/or thing. We need more retail AND more good-paying industrial jobs.
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#138 Feb 27, 2013
Nope wrote:
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You're still wrong. The more retail we have, the more money people will spend here. Atwoods is a perfect example. You say we have everything we need. Then why do I hear about so many people in El Dorado who drive to an Atwoods in another town? That's why having a successful mall is so important. It keeps people from going out of town to shop so often, and it also gets people to come to town to spend money when otherwise they would not.
You're doing this silly either/or thing. We need more retail AND more good-paying industrial jobs.
OK, WHEN WE START SEEING TUMBLEWEEDS BLOWING DOWN N.W. AVE I WILL COME BACK HERE AND REMIND YOU WHY.
actually

United States

#139 Feb 28, 2013
CPA wrote:
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There will not be more sales tax collected, there is only one PIE in Eldorado you can only slice that pie so many times then no one is making a profit.....atwoods is not bringing in one item that you could not have already have bought in Eldorado at competitive prices, so how are they going to increase tax dollars ? after you deduct the tax dollars from the sales lost to them from other local merchants it will all equal the same, Ask Magnolia , Camden, Crossett how many more tax dollars are collected now with atwoods than before, Now if add a few hundred industrial jobs to the area you will see a brisk tax increase because there will be more money to spend.
Pilgrims pride...gone
cooper tire ....gone
precolite.....gone
georgia pacific.....gone
many, many other real jobs gone, and all we can do is recuit retail to choke out the retail we already have, THIS MAKES SENSE TO YOU ?
ASK THE CHINESE BUFFETS IN TOWN HOW THEY LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE LOOKING FOR THERE FUTURE.
Pilgrims Pride is the only one you listed that's closed the past 10 years. This shows how out of date your information is, how misinformed, and how out of touch with the basic laws of supply and demand you really are.
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#140 Feb 28, 2013
actually wrote:
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Pilgrims Pride is the only one you listed that's closed the past 10 years. This shows how out of date your information is, how misinformed, and how out of touch with the basic laws of supply and demand you really are.
g.p. and P.P. both have close in the past 5 years, the others probably 10 or more, also shows no ability to bring in new industry, not a good thing.
Nope

El Dorado, AR

#141 Feb 28, 2013
CPA wrote:
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g.p. and P.P. both have close in the past 5 years, the others probably 10 or more, also shows no ability to bring in new industry, not a good thing.
First off, the city has brought in new industry. Second off, the city is supporting expansions of existing industry that are HUGE - hundreds of new jobs and m illions of dollars in construction.

We haven't lost a single industry in the last 3 or 4 years. At what point do you quit whining about something that happened awhile back and start focusing on the present and the future?
CPA

El Dorado, AR

#142 Feb 28, 2013
yeah right.
Nope

El Dorado, AR

#143 Feb 28, 2013
CPA wrote:
yeah right.
Brilliant response.
actually

United States

#144 Feb 28, 2013
CPA wrote:
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g.p. and P.P. both have close in the past 5 years, the others probably 10 or more, also shows no ability to bring in new industry, not a good thing.
GP is: not in El Dorado or in Union County; 2) did not shut down. They laid off one division. And didn't Thermaflite JUST come in??? Weren't you bitching about them??? Atwoods??? TJ Maxx??? What's not a "good thing" is you piss-poor attitude filled with negativity. It's YOUR problem. Don't make it contageous.

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