why do men lie??
Ten

United States

#86 May 17, 2013
actually ur wrong again wrote:
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But it does not state "Thou shalt not lie." Are you too stupid to not understand the difference between a general lie and lying about someone else? Nobody contradicted anything; you just continuously fail to comprehend. Make sure to run to the church doors this Sunday, as its clear your lack of comprehension needs as simple of an explanation as can be provided.
lmao! A lie is a lie! Whether you are lying about someone else or lying to someone about yourself. You are still bearing false witness against your neighbor. You just stated that bearing false witness was a lie. It's all in how you interpret the bible and all religions intrepret it differently. But I think they all agree that bearing false witness is a lie just like stated and the 9th commandment says that is a sin!
Answer

El Dorado, AR

#87 May 17, 2013
Men, like women, lie if they want someone to believe the truth is inaccurate.

You're welcome.
Answer

El Dorado, AR

#88 May 17, 2013
Lol. Really, everyone lies. Lying to spare someone's feelings about something minor, like cooking or a bad haircut is way way way different than lying to save your own ass from looking bad in front of someone, especially a partner. Its when someone does it over and over and regarding the same subject at hand that its becomes pathetic for both the liar and the weakling that is willing to be with the liar knowing he or she is a liar.

The better question is:

WHY THE F**K DO PEOPLE STAY WITH LIARS? Especially women.
actually

Rowlett, TX

#89 May 18, 2013
Ten wrote:
<quoted text>lmao! A lie is a lie! Whether you are lying about someone else or lying to someone about yourself. You are still bearing false witness against your neighbor. You just stated that bearing false witness was a lie. It's all in how you interpret the bible and all religions intrepret it differently. But I think they all agree that bearing false witness is a lie just like stated and the 9th commandment says that is a sin!
The 9th Commandment does not refer to just any lie. So, a lie is not a lie. People that view the 10 Commandments, or any law for that matter, and twist it into what YOU want to believe is what's wrong with this country. Until you create your own universe, DO NOT misconstrue the Word of God. You will do more harm than good.
Ten

United States

#90 May 18, 2013
actually wrote:
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The 9th Commandment does not refer to just any lie. So, a lie is not a lie. People that view the 10 Commandments, or any law for that matter, and twist it into what YOU want to believe is what's wrong with this country. Until you create your own universe, DO NOT misconstrue the Word of God. You will do more harm than good.
there are also places in the bible that say "thou shalt not lie or steal" pretty straight forward there hard to twist that around! Now you might want to read the bible because you will find plenty in there about Lying! I know you would like to justify to yourself and others that lying is ok in God's eyes but the bible talks enough about it that any person with a brain knows that God does not approve of lying!! But by all means lie, cheat , steal or do anything else the bible tells you not to I'm sure justifying it on topix will make it ok in God's eyes! Idiot!
actually

Dallas, TX

#91 May 18, 2013
Ten wrote:
<quoted text>there are also places in the bible that say "thou shalt not lie or steal" pretty straight forward there hard to twist that around! Now you might want to read the bible because you will find plenty in there about Lying! I know you would like to justify to yourself and others that lying is ok in God's eyes but the bible talks enough about it that any person with a brain knows that God does not approve of lying!! But by all means lie, cheat , steal or do anything else the bible tells you not to I'm sure justifying it on topix will make it ok in God's eyes! Idiot!
No, you're wrong again. "Thou shalt not steal" is another commandment. Also, you will not find "thou shalt not lie" or any alluding to a general lie being a sin.

Also, "Bible" should always be capitalized.

Also, you're showing your ignorance by misleading that I was justifying lying as being acceptible in the eyes of God. Feel free to look for a passage of God's dissatisfaction or approval of lying within The Bible. You will find nothing.

But, by bearing false witness to my comments, you have just sinned. And, by bearing false witness towards me as being an "idiot" is another son, and the act of calling somebody a fool, a synonym for an idiot, was your third sin. Please seek the council of a pastor as soon as you can tomorrow morning. You are in desperate need of it.
Friendly

Damascus, AR

#92 May 18, 2013
All men don't like thank you very much!

Women lie and cheat too. Just not all of them.
Ten

United States

#93 May 18, 2013
There are plenty of reference and statements in the Bible ( happy?) about lying. Sorry I have better things to do today than look them all up for you but I'm sure your pastor will be happy to do that for you because you probably have better things to do like lie and cheat! Obviously you will try to justify it by trying to argue what is in the bible! Why don't you go confess to your pastor tomorrow that you are an habitual liar and the Bible does not say that is a sin and you think it's fine to lie because God does not have a problem with it. I really want to know what your pastor says so please get back to me on that! Thank you!
actually

Dallas, TX

#94 May 18, 2013
Ten wrote:
There are plenty of reference and statements in the Bible ( happy?) about lying. Sorry I have better things to do today than look them all up for you but I'm sure your pastor will be happy to do that for you because you probably have better things to do like lie and cheat! Obviously you will try to justify it by trying to argue what is in the bible! Why don't you go confess to your pastor tomorrow that you are an habitual liar and the Bible does not say that is a sin and you think it's fine to lie because God does not have a problem with it. I really want to know what your pastor says so please get back to me on that! Thank you!
No there's not. If there was, you'd find one, just ONE, verse that refers to lying as a sin. Everybody knows you're lying, which is not a sin, about "having better things to do today." You're a manipulating sackofshit liar. Obviously, you are trying to make up that I'm trying to justify anything. I don't have to, as I have a healthy family and attend church regularly. You, on the otherhand, need Jesus. All yourpatheticass has to do is find one verse about the general act of lying as being a sin. God judges our morality, not you. If you have a problem with lying, it is apparent that you have something to hide. Until you can find one verse, nobody will hold another post of your's to any value of respect. False prophets are referenced in The Bible. And you are the result of the passage. How it must suck to be you.
Ten

El Dorado, AR

#95 May 18, 2013
Proverbs 6:16-19 there are six things The Lord hates , seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, A LYING TONGUE, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, A FALSE WITNESS WHO BREATHES OUT LIES, and one who sows discord among brothers! Psalms 101:7 no one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house, no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes! Proverbs 12:22 lying lips are an abomination to The Lord but those who act faithfully are his delight. Proverbs 19:9 a false witness will not go unpunished and he who breathes out lies will perish! I can go on and on! But I think that proves my point. Mr Christian did you just call me a sackofshit liar? That was a sin as well! Now why don't you show your pastor, wife your kids your post about your argument about lying I'm sure they would be proud of you! I think I just "check mate" your ass!
MyHumbleOpies

El Dorado, AR

#96 May 18, 2013
I hate when Topix threads end up being Biblical debates. Using the Bible to score points in an argument is just a little distasteful. However, interpretation is one thing... but when the Bible is word for word clear on something being wrong there is no room for inferences. The Bible is very clear in many verses that lying is wrong and has consequences. But God also knows our hearts and knows if we fib to spare someone's feelings about a haircut gone wrong or something.... He knows the difference between that and lying to spread discord between people, slander, disparagement or to spare yourself some trouble.

If you are going to debate the Bible, I think you should do it kindly, calmly and logically. Getting angry while debating the Bible is, again I say... distasteful, or perhaps a little inappropriate. Name calling and such is unnecessary. If someone debases their own intelligence and shows a tendency towards anger and irrationality when it comes to debating their opinion then I say let them do it, let them show their lesser nature. The person debating with the uncontrolled individual should not stoop themselves in retaliation.
MyHumbleOpies

El Dorado, AR

#97 May 18, 2013
Aside from the many verses on lying that can easily be googled or sought in the reference section of any Bible, I would like to add that Satan is often referred to as "The Father of Lies", and a "deceiver". Since Satan, the embodiment of evil itself, is referred to as such, I believe that having a deceitful or lying nature is looked upon as on of the greatest evils.

This is my personal opinion and an assumption, but I believe if anyone truly thinks that God is not displeased with a lying spirit, they must be pretty far removed from an understanding of His Word or His very nature as our creator and the source of all truth. Such individuals are often angry and bitter, oppressed by misery and have a tendency to lash out at others. It is sad and we should take pity on such people. That is a judgement, I admit. But one of discernment and not depreciation, which I believe is in proper accord with the right use of judgement. Depreciative judgment carries with it an intent to condemn, discerning judgement carries with it love or purity of truth, or both.

Goodness, I hope that doesn't spark a debate on judgement, lol.
typical

Plano, TX

#98 May 18, 2013
MyHumbleOpies wrote:
I hate when Topix threads end up being Biblical debates. Using the Bible to score points in an argument is just a little distasteful. However, interpretation is one thing... but when the Bible is word for word clear on something being wrong there is no room for inferences. The Bible is very clear in many verses that lying is wrong and has consequences. But God also knows our hearts and knows if we fib to spare someone's feelings about a haircut gone wrong or something.... He knows the difference between that and lying to spread discord between people, slander, disparagement or to spare yourself some trouble.
If you are going to debate the Bible, I think you should do it kindly, calmly and logically. Getting angry while debating the Bible is, again I say... distasteful, or perhaps a little inappropriate. Name calling and such is unnecessary. If someone debases their own intelligence and shows a tendency towards anger and irrationality when it comes to debating their opinion then I say let them do it, let them show their lesser nature. The person debating with the uncontrolled individual should not stoop themselves in retaliation.
Agreed. This "Ten" individual has definitely dropped off the deep end. Best for all of us to ignore this lunatic.
Morals

United States

#99 May 19, 2013
typical wrote:
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Agreed. This "Ten" individual has definitely dropped off the deep end. Best for all of us to ignore this lunatic.
i believe it was this "actually" person that was saying that lying was not a sin in the Bible. Saying that there was no reference in the Bible to say that lying was a sin. Ten just gave him the proof needed to show how God feels about liars and he does not approve of it. Maybe they should not have called them an idiot but I think "actually" called worse names and I think the person was referring to them. Actually was on here trying to deceive people about lying and trying to use the Bible to do that which is very inappropriate and I can't blame anyone for getting a little heated about that! This actually why doesn't he tell his wife and kids that lying is not a sin and then when he catches his kids lying all the time and they say "daddy you said lying is not a sin" then he can figure out how to handle that one.i agree with ten and can't blame them for standing their ground and moral values! I believe ten shut actually up and his argument about lying and gave proof from the Bible how God feels about liars! Good for them!
Reality Check

El Dorado, AR

#100 May 19, 2013
Answer wrote:
WHY THE F**K DO PEOPLE STAY WITH LIARS? Especially women.
Once a good man is taken, he is off the market. The women that don't get a good man early are stuck with trying to find a good man from the remaining pool of low life scumbags. Choose wisely early, and don't pick the man that every woman would like to be with. Pick the ugly, poor, shy guy.
lol

El Dorado, AR

#101 May 19, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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Once a good man is taken, he is off the market. The women that don't get a good man early are stuck with trying to find a good man from the remaining pool of low life scumbags. Choose wisely early, and don't pick the man that every woman would like to be with. Pick the ugly, poor, shy guy.
How foolish. Who do you know that gets married early and doesn't wind up divorced or with kids who have more than one father or mother? It is quite the opposite. The good ones wait because they are cautious to not make the mistake of getting serious too young only to have it end and have to start again. Only half of marriages last and even fewer when the couple is married before 30. Infidelity is rampant when you're talking about kids still in their twenties. The good ones know how to be patient and choose wisely and in today's world that takes a while longer. Only desperate people who don't want to be alone jump into marriage and those people have problems.
typical

Longview, TX

#102 May 19, 2013
Morals wrote:
<quoted text>i believe it was this "actually" person that was saying that lying was not a sin in the Bible. Saying that there was no reference in the Bible to say that lying was a sin. Ten just gave him the proof needed to show how God feels about liars and he does not approve of it. Maybe they should not have called them an idiot but I think "actually" called worse names and I think the person was referring to them. Actually was on here trying to deceive people about lying and trying to use the Bible to do that which is very inappropriate and I can't blame anyone for getting a little heated about that! This actually why doesn't he tell his wife and kids that lying is not a sin and then when he catches his kids lying all the time and they say "daddy you said lying is not a sin" then he can figure out how to handle that one.i agree with ten and can't blame them for standing their ground and moral values! I believe ten shut actually up and his argument about lying and gave proof from the Bible how God feels about liars! Good for them!
No, it was this "Ten" person that was saying that lying was a sin in the Bible. Saying that the 9th commandment referenced all lying as a sin in the Bible. This is clearly not the case.. Actually just gave Ten the proof needed to show that it only references one type of lying, which is "Do not bare false witness against thy neighbor." Maybe they should not have called them an idiot but I think "Ten" called worse names and I think the person was referring to them. Ten was on here trying to deceive people about lying and then recanted, changing the scope to all verses in the Bible. No one can blame actually for getting heated for that! This Ten why doesn't he tell his wife and kids that lying is a sin, ACCORDING TO THE 9TH COMMANDMENT, and watch others criticize and humiliate them, just as was done to Ten. I agree with actually and can't blame them for standing their ground and moral values! I believe actually shut ten up and his argument about lying when Ten realized that anyone with common sense knows that bearing false witness against their neighbor is completely different than telling someone they like their terrible haircut they're so proud of.
butbutt

El Dorado, AR

#103 May 19, 2013
typical wrote:
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No, it was this "Ten" person that was saying that lying was a sin in the Bible. Saying that the 9th commandment referenced all lying as a sin in the Bible. This is clearly not the case.. Actually just gave Ten the proof needed to show that it only references one type of lying, which is "Do not bare false witness against thy neighbor." Maybe they should not have called them an idiot but I think "Ten" called worse names and I think the person was referring to them. Ten was on here trying to deceive people about lying and then recanted, changing the scope to all verses in the Bible. No one can blame actually for getting heated for that! This Ten why doesn't he tell his wife and kids that lying is a sin, ACCORDING TO THE 9TH COMMANDMENT, and watch others criticize and humiliate them, just as was done to Ten. I agree with actually and can't blame them for standing their ground and moral values! I believe actually shut ten up and his argument about lying when Ten realized that anyone with common sense knows that bearing false witness against their neighbor is completely different than telling someone they like their terrible haircut they're so proud of.


Leviticus 19:11 You shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
Psalms 119:163 I hate and abhor lying: but your law do I love.
Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
Proverbs 13:5 A righteous man hates lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and comes to shame.

There are many, many more references to lying in the Bible as being deplorable in the eyes of God, as well as men of God speaking on lying as being abhorrent to God. Bearing false witness is also mentioned, of course, but that isn't in direct reference to being in a courtroom just because it uses the word "witness". I understand your reasoning, but I think you should do a little more research on Biblical references to lying before you make up your mind about the whole matter.

I definitely agree with "MyHumbleOpies" and you on your views about what I would call "little fibs". Lying to spare someone's feelings on small matter such as haircuts or cooking is probably, I'm assuming, different in the eyes of God. Of course, we could try and put things in a certain way that we are neither lying nor insulting anyone but most of us have not mastered that talent or level of tactfulness. I know I haven't. But I think the bottom line here is that most people need to do thorough research before making inferences about what the Bible says on any given subject. Using hearsay when it comes to the Word can often make us look foolish.

P.S. We also know you are "actually", pretending to be someone else agreeing with yourself. I really hope you work out whatever issues it is that makes you so afflicted with misery, such that you lash out at other people and lack reason because anger clouds your judgement. You don't have to lash out at someone just because they disagree with your point of view, and you certainly shouldn't be arguing with someone when they have already laid proof out in front of you. Accept that you are wrong and move on. You can't take a few verses of the Bible to argue your point then ignore the many other verses that reference the same subject. Like I said, do more research (the research that now three of us have laid out in front of you) and you will find that there are far more references to lying than just "bearing false witness". You shouldn't ignore the truth so you can still believe you are right, when other people see you are wrong yet you still argue, ignoring anything that doesn't align with your original point. It is like having blue paint on your hands that others can see yet you claim the paint is orange. I feel pity for you, I truly do, and so should other people.
Morals

United States

#104 May 19, 2013
typical wrote:
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No, it was this "Ten" person that was saying that lying was a sin in the Bible. Saying that the 9th commandment referenced all lying as a sin in the Bible. This is clearly not the case.. Actually just gave Ten the proof needed to show that it only references one type of lying, which is "Do not bare false witness against thy neighbor." Maybe they should not have called them an idiot but I think "Ten" called worse names and I think the person was referring to them. Ten was on here trying to deceive people about lying and then recanted, changing the scope to all verses in the Bible. No one can blame actually for getting heated for that! This Ten why doesn't he tell his wife and kids that lying is a sin, ACCORDING TO THE 9TH COMMANDMENT, and watch others criticize and humiliate them, just as was done to Ten. I agree with actually and can't blame them for standing their ground and moral values! I believe actually shut ten up and his argument about lying when Ten realized that anyone with common sense knows that bearing false witness against their neighbor is completely different than telling someone they like their terrible haircut they're so proud of.
anyone can take the ninth commandment and get their own interpretation just like different religions do. To me bearing false witness is lying! Actually stated that there was no place in the Bible that said lying was a sin! I think ten gave plenty of verses to prove that is is a sin and God is very displeased with liars. I think stupidshit liar, dumbass, and some other names to me is worse than idiot. Actually wants to deceive people with using the Bible to prove it is not wrong in Gods eyes to lie. Just wondering if he tells his wife, children, pastor and people in his church the same thing that he puts on here that lying is not a sin and there is no place in the Bible that states that. Would love to hear what his family and church family's response would be to that! Maybe actually should go read the verses that ten provided him and try to argue those because it is pretty clear throughout the Bible how God feels about liars whether that be the Ninth commandment, proverbs or any other verses listed above. I think this subject is closed an no one can argue about what the Bible says about lying!
decent guy

Sturgeon County, Canada

#105 May 19, 2013
your a sexist pig come on really? thats like asking if all women are total beaches at the end of the month that doesnt actually work cause mines true

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