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gooberman

El Dorado, AR

#21 Dec 21, 2013
Keep the trash talk comin
ACNLP

Hamburg, AR

#22 Dec 22, 2013
Acer Rubrum 'October glory'
Scratching Head

United States

#23 Dec 28, 2013
ACNLP wrote:
Acer Rubrum 'October glory'
I guess you are saying that this is what they planted? I'm no arborist, so they looked like gum to me. Tell us more; we are here to debate the situation. If you have good information that will put me in my place, then please speak up. Of course, this doesn't put to rest the issues of the hand rails, the building maintenance, or the signage.
Scratched Ass

Little Rock, AR

#24 Dec 28, 2013
Scratching Head wrote:
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I guess you are saying that this is what they planted? I'm no arborist, so they looked like gum to me. Tell us more; we are here to debate the situation. If you have good information that will put me in my place, then please speak up. Of course, this doesn't put to rest the issues of the hand rails, the building maintenance, or the signage.
But nothing you are whining about is an "issue." Therefore, nobody has to go to any effort to put you there. Enjoy your "place."
Zippy

El Dorado, AR

#25 Dec 28, 2013
girly girl wrote:
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That money should have been spent to increase the parking spaces for visitors. People have broken bones,legs,noses and lacerations from sidewalk falls caused by tree roots busting the sidewalk.
can't sue the city
well

Chicago, IL

#26 Dec 28, 2013
Discussion is better with those whose minds aren't closed or continually in denial or just plain stupid.
Scratched Ass

Killeen, TX

#27 Dec 28, 2013
well wrote:
Discussion is better with those whose minds aren't closed or continually in denial or just plain stupid.
Finally, someone that is not closed-minded.
for real

El Dorado, AR

#28 Dec 28, 2013
I think sidewalk debacle just tip of what is going on in downtown El Dorado. I have noticed that a few stores that sell childrens clothing, glassware, and others are leaving Main street area. Wonder if business climate downtown has changed or if sidewalk issues just final straw. The whole area seems to be going towards the food and night life theme. There are still a variety of stores downtown but wonder just how much of the money for the entertainment venues billed as Mainstreet Events is really going to help the businesses in the downtown area and how much is not. I always thought it was weird that one area of a town as small as El Dorado could generate enough for these acts to come and why it is only downtown that does it. Usually one of the big plants here is main funder for Musicfest, and other entertainment venues, so why does it only help downtown? This is a beautiful town, of course it has lower kept up areas but this is still beautiful town and it ALL needs to be taken care of. All the parks need to be equipped for kids and planted in grass that kids can play on. Neighborhood areas owned by city need to be kept up and citizens need to take pride in their blocks. Businesses need to keep their landscaping up and keep the trash picked up. If we all put out just a little this can be a city to be proud of not one to be avoided.
Confused

United States

#29 Jan 2, 2014
I guess you have to walk between the parked cars or in traffic if you're crossing Jefferson on the South Side of Main Street?
Tranquil

El Dorado, AR

#30 Jan 2, 2014
Its ok wrote:
Give it a little time. It's really going to be nice once it's all done. It can't happen over night. Even repairs to the buildings take time. Everything has to be brought before the historical board, approved, then work can begin. It's all going to be ok. Calm down.
Yes, the City does such nice work....like the "green space" in the middle of the street in front of the College, which was a real winner, and then changing part of NW Avenue from 4 lanes to 2, and bottle-necking traffic, planting those trees downtown, in the first place, which totally screwed up the sidewalks....and then spending a ton more money to fix their first mistake, and , yes, I agree when pedestrians cross Jefferson going East on Main, it is a little confusing where you are suppose to go. Wait until we get the forthcoming rotaries, at major intersections....that will be the ultimate, as numerous school aged children depend on traffic lights to cross those busy intersections, and the lights will be gone. WHAT are they thinking? Wish they would skip all this and fix the major potholes in the streets around town, and maybe use some of those inmates to pick up the trash that the people around here who have no civic pride throw out ....beer cans, dirty diapers, food containers, etc.
FYI

El Dorado, AR

#31 Jan 2, 2014
Tranquil wrote:
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Yes, the City does such nice work....like the "green space" in the middle of the street in front of the College, which was a real winner, and then changing part of NW Avenue from 4 lanes to 2, and bottle-necking traffic, planting those trees downtown, in the first place, which totally screwed up the sidewalks....and then spending a ton more money to fix their first mistake, and , yes, I agree when pedestrians cross Jefferson going East on Main, it is a little confusing where you are suppose to go. Wait until we get the forthcoming rotaries, at major intersections....that will be the ultimate, as numerous school aged children depend on traffic lights to cross those busy intersections, and the lights will be gone. WHAT are they thinking? Wish they would skip all this and fix the major potholes in the streets around town, and maybe use some of those inmates to pick up the trash that the people around here who have no civic pride throw out ....beer cans, dirty diapers, food containers, etc.
I don't remember seeing you during the city cleanup day. Easy to sit behind a keyboard, complain and tell everyone else what THEY need to do. Where were you?!
How do we fix this

United States

#32 Jan 3, 2014
Has anyone asked the city to answer for this during a city council meeting? Is a council meeting the proper forum to get the city to acknowledge this, or is there an alternative that would be more appropriate? I live outside the city limits so I'm not sure that it would be right for me to do this, but I will. I DO earn my income, spend my money, and volunteer my time in El Dorado, and AM a lifelong resident of Union County, so maybe it would be acceptable for me to attend a council meeting and ask about this.

On another note, can someone elaborate on the "intersection rotaries" that were mentioned in a previous post?
How do we fix this

Euless, TX

#33 Jan 5, 2014
This made the front page of Saturday's newspaper with a picture of pedestrians climbing around this thing. Hopefully the city will get this fixed soon. They made mention of some of the upcoming sidewalk projects, and I have to say that some seem to be unnecessary to me. I haven't surveyed the areas myself, but based on my recollection there are some of these areas that don't need attention. Who makes these decisions? The citizens? The city council?The mayor? The public works director? I think these issues should go on a ballot. The portion of Main opposite the Courthouse, on the south side of the street is next to be stripped of the beautiful trees. If I understood the article correctly, they will also eventually be "improving" other stretches of sidewalk across a twenty block area West/East between North West Avenue and South Jackson, and South/North between Cedar and Peach. Hopefully they avoid other screw-ups like this.
Gene

Smackover, AR

#34 Jan 5, 2014
How do we fix this wrote:
This made the front page of Saturday's newspaper with a picture of pedestrians climbing around this thing. Hopefully the city will get this fixed soon. They made mention of some of the upcoming sidewalk projects, and I have to say that some seem to be unnecessary to me. I haven't surveyed the areas myself, but based on my recollection there are some of these areas that don't need attention. Who makes these decisions? The citizens? The city council?The mayor? The public works director? I think these issues should go on a ballot. The portion of Main opposite the Courthouse, on the south side of the street is next to be stripped of the beautiful trees. If I understood the article correctly, they will also eventually be "improving" other stretches of sidewalk across a twenty block area West/East between North West Avenue and South Jackson, and South/North between Cedar and Peach. Hopefully they avoid other screw-ups like this.
You did vote on these improvements. Each time we have a local election voters elect mayor, county judge, city council, etc. We elect leaders to make decisions for us. We don't need to place every idea on a ballot. If we did we wouldn't need elected officials. The new sidewalks have been a great improvement to our downtown i think we need to continue to replace the rest If you read the article you woul know that the state highway department designed the controversial corner. All in all they have gone a great job.
How do we fix this

Euless, TX

#36 Jan 5, 2014
Gene wrote:
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You did vote on these improvements. Each time we have a local election voters elect mayor, county judge, city council, etc. We elect leaders to make decisions for us. We don't need to place every idea on a ballot. If we did we wouldn't need elected officials. The new sidewalks have been a great improvement to our downtown i think we need to continue to replace the rest If you read the article you woul know that the state highway department designed the controversial corner. All in all they have gone a great job.
Thank you for the perspective Gene. I guess I never really considered (for this issue) that we elected the council members and Mayor with the expectation that they were competent enough to make these decisions for us, as well as in our best interest. I, as well as most others take these elected officials for granted until they do something of which I/we disapprove. BTW, I live outside of the city limits, but do consider myself an El Dorado resident. I also appreciate the clarification regarding the AHTD's role in this project; they do deserve the "blame". I do agree that the sidewalk improvements are definitely an improvement, and look forward to the rest. I did not finish editing my last post regarding my position on the future phases of this project; at first I understood it to read that they were planning to do only Peach Street and Cedar Street. I edited the post after I re-interpreted that it described the 20-block area, but I failed to notice and revise the disapproving and negative remarks earlier in the paragraph. I may be wrong, but I do think that we could have saved a substantial amount of money by excluding a couple of the blocks from the project. For example, my recollection of the condition of the stretch of sidewalks in the same block as Bancorp South, 2Fifty2, and the stretch opposite First Presbyterian Church was that there were minimal to no defects. If that WAS the case, then I hope they exercise a little better decision making in the future.

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