El Dorado Conference Center loses $352,000 in 2013

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The El Dorado newspaper recently reported a loss at the conference center and the City (taxpayers will be responsible for ponying up 1/2 of the loss over $300,000 or $26,000.)
As people say, if you limit parking you limit business activity. Many people and organizations will not schedule events here because of the shortage of on site parking. Other conference managers around the state know this and use it against us when recruiting events. The few on site parking spaces are taken by students and employees.

I hope the organization putting together El Dorado Festivals plan to take into consideration the large number of parking spaces required to attract customers to shows. Its ridiculus to jam in more buildings and objects that remove parking. This area of town in order to handle many customers and guests needs more parking-- not less. Businesses left downtown in the 1960's because parking was such an inconvenience-- hence the shopping center, mall and stand alone structures with ample parking (Bookshire- Walmart).
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You hope our leaders would have learned something from the last time they killed the downtown area.
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The El Dorado newspaper recently reported a loss at the conference center and the City (taxpayers will be responsible for ponying up 1/2 of the loss over $300,000 or $26,000.)
As people say, if you limit parking you limit business activity. Many people and organizations will not schedule events here because of the shortage of on site parking. Other conference managers around the state know this and use it against us when recruiting events. The few on site parking spaces are taken by students and employees.
I hope the organization putting together El Dorado Festivals plan to take into consideration the large number of parking spaces required to attract customers to shows. Its ridiculus to jam in more buildings and objects that remove parking. This area of town in order to handle many customers and guests needs more parking-- not less. Businesses left downtown in the 1960's because parking was such an inconvenience-- hence the shopping center, mall and stand alone structures with ample parking (Bookshire- Walmart).
No,$352,000 was SPENT on the Conference Center in 2013. It actually turned a profit because of the demand for it. The agreement between the college and the city stated that the two would split any costs over $300,000 in a year. Expenses were higher than normal because of maintenance needs. The Conference Center has been very successful and almost always has some activities going on (other than just the usual college business).
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This place don't need any more parking. There is plenty parking for no more than is going to come to it. It will always be a joke and cost the tax payers. It's tits on a bore hog, USELESS.
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No,$352,000 was SPENT on the Conference Center in 2013. It actually turned a profit because of the demand for it. The agreement between the college and the city stated that the two would split any costs over $300,000 in a year. Expenses were higher than normal because of maintenance needs. The Conference Center has been very successful and almost always has some activities going on (other than just the usual college business).
Nice try, but you must have a different definition of profit from the rest of us. The first paragraph of the newspaper article says "The El Dorado Conference Center is spending more money than it's taking in. A lot more." According to the rest of the article, total revenue was $338538.51 and total expenses were $683591.55.
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This place don't need any more parking. There is plenty parking for no more than is going to come to it. It will always be a joke and cost the tax payers. It's tits on a bore hog, USELESS.
There's enough parking for those creating the expenses; there's not enough for those providing the revenue.
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Who's idea was this tax payers nightmare anyway? He needs his a$$ kicked
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The idea was OK. They could have picked a better location.
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The idea was OK. They could have picked a better location.
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Mike Dumas wrote:
Who's idea was this tax payers nightmare anyway? He needs his a$$ kicked
I am so amazed at the Monday morning quarterbacking. I guess you have a lot better ideas on what El Dorado needs. What are your ideas. Maybe you are one of those that thinks we have all we need her;. if not let's hear it!
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I am unsure how they can expect events at the center to cover all costs of running it. This is not just used for events then locked up till another event. It is used 5 to 6 days a week by college, people coming and going all day using the facility. This constant use will result in higher utilities and maintenance costs obviously. Think someone should have thought out complete situation before saying city money would be used to pay operating costs for college campus building because that is what it is except when vent is there. The fact we used city money to build this center that is used daily by college should have been enough. We need to get our agencies and commissions busy booking events that will draw more people to town and maybe better events that would include large spectrum of people not just select groups.

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The only big success there so far that I remember had some theme like "outdoors" with lots of vendors offering interesting stuff to buy...

Are there other themes that might do as well? Sports? Trucks? Food? Politics? Religion? Arts? Music? Internet?
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If I recall, the Conference Center was to be a music venue, but the acoustics didn't turn out that well.
More of the vendor fairs might help.
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The only big success there so far that I remember had some theme like "outdoors" with lots of vendors offering interesting stuff to buy...
Are there other themes that might do as well? Sports? Trucks? Food? Politics? Religion? Arts? Music? Internet?
For those unaware "roboblogger 2" is the topixFag. Just a tidbit for U. This is also FreakFagFriday, the btch will be on topix ALL day.
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The only big success there so far that I remember had some theme like "outdoors" with lots of vendors offering interesting stuff to buy...
Are there other themes that might do as well? Sports? Trucks? Food? Politics? Religion? Arts? Music? Internet?
What I remember about the "outdoor" show was there wasn't hardly anything outdoor about it. I like ribs but if you want to have an outdoor show get some 4 wheelers, boats, guns, and outdoor accessories. I went inside the building and saw a that crap that didn't have anything to do with outdoors. No fishing, No hunting and Jason D Williams. I wont go back.
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What I remember about the "outdoor" show was there wasn't hardly anything outdoor about it. I like ribs but if you want to have an outdoor show get some 4 wheelers, boats, guns, and outdoor accessories. I went inside the building and saw a that crap that didn't have anything to do with outdoors. No fishing, No hunting and Jason D Williams. I wont go back.
This is theFag answering 'roboblogger 2', his own ignorantAzz self. Talk to yourself dikBreath, U fkingAids infested homosexual, welfare POS. LMAO. How ignorant R U Gooberlips?
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Watch the Homo Go---Queer up
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well wrote:
If I recall, the Conference Center was to be a music venue, but the acoustics didn't turn out that well.
More of the vendor fairs might help.
Wrong. The conference center was first and foremost meant to be a conference center. As for the acoustics, it was identified as a problem for *any* event that used microphones and speakers, not just music events.
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Janis wrote:
The El Dorado newspaper recently reported a loss at the conference center and the City (taxpayers will be responsible for ponying up 1/2 of the loss over $300,000 or $26,000.)
As people say, if you limit parking you limit business activity. Many people and organizations will not schedule events here because of the shortage of on site parking. Other conference managers around the state know this and use it against us when recruiting events. The few on site parking spaces are taken by students and employees.
I hope the organization putting together El Dorado Festivals plan to take into consideration the large number of parking spaces required to attract customers to shows. Its ridiculus to jam in more buildings and objects that remove parking. This area of town in order to handle many customers and guests needs more parking-- not less. Businesses left downtown in the 1960's because parking was such an inconvenience-- hence the shopping center, mall and stand alone structures with ample parking (Bookshire- Walmart).
A parking structure *was* planned for in El Dorado Festivals and Events' long range plans, the last time I asked.
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sos wrote:
I am unsure how they can expect events at the center to cover all costs of running it. This is not just used for events then locked up till another event. It is used 5 to 6 days a week by college, people coming and going all day using the facility. This constant use will result in higher utilities and maintenance costs obviously. Think someone should have thought out complete situation before saying city money would be used to pay operating costs for college campus building because that is what it is except when vent is there. The fact we used city money to build this center that is used daily by college should have been enough. We need to get our agencies and commissions busy booking events that will draw more people to town and maybe better events that would include large spectrum of people not just select groups.
From the very beginning, the conference center was to serve a dual purpose: host events and to house offices for the college. And from the very beginning, the college had agreed to cover all annual operating deficits up to $300,000 each year, and the city had agreed to split the expenses over $300,000. The situation *was* thought out.

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