Rethink your perceptions

Rethink your perceptions

There are 28 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Apr 12, 2008, titled Rethink your perceptions. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

In the middle of the night, 17 years ago in the Ukraine, an old man in old clothes knocked on Vasily Draka's door.

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Erin Krauss

Savannah, GA

#22 Apr 15, 2008
Rob,

I wanted to attempt to add some balance to the extremely radical, anti-immigrant sentiment the on-line postings tend to represent. Mainly, I want to say thank you for daring to write such a compelling, well rounded and affective article for our area community members to reflect on. Thank you for also sharing the stories of people who often to do get heard. I commend you for your efforts and recognize that if your article were not so powerful, you would not have generated such an obviously scared reaction from all of the raging anti-immigrant activists who are scared to see this country's face be one of color as well as white. I am sure you have also reached people who will give this topic some genuine, critical and humanist thought.
Erin Krauss

Savannah, GA

#23 Apr 15, 2008
"thank you for sharing the stories of people who often DO NOT get heard..."

Since: Feb 07

Ashevegas

#24 Apr 15, 2008
some very fundamental questions that are a part of the immigration equation remain unanswered and often, unasked.
One is, do we have a right to measure our situation and put limits on growth, both of development and of population? Granted, we are a nation that was built by immigrants, but perhaps that time is over. We well may have exceeded the level of density necessary to use our resources effectively, and are now seeing the effects of overcrowding, and poorly planned growth.
Another question that other countries ask, but we seem reluctant to visit, is whether or not people wanting to enter this country have qualifications that would benefit our economy right away, or are they just hoping to improve their own lot in life? All to often we are being used as a bandaid for the problems that plague other nations rather than forcing those regions to make the basic changes to improve their own situations.

Since: Oct 07

Easley, SC

#25 Apr 15, 2008
Not addressing the needs of those who gained political & religious assylom previously, but have not been Naturalized as of yet, I agree with the intent of Shuler's bill.
Having been aware of undocumented workers for many years & having had to compete with them for employment, etc, I want each & every one accounted for. We the people need to know who is here & why & where.
Because of the illegal attack, invasion & oiccupation of Iraq by Herr bushishito, there are millions of people who are refugees that WE must try & accomidate. Plus the ill effects of such places like Darfor. Just because a person can physically come here is no excuse.
There must be order & a systematic enforcement of OUR laws while equally protecting everyone's Naturally inherent inalienable rights to be humanely treated.
The cost of removing undocumenteds should be borne by their employers, if they knowingly dis-obeyed OUR immigration laws.
There are people who truly need to be here. They come first. This can only be accomplished by orderly & lawful immigration enforcement.
Bitter EX democrackkk

Dillon, SC

#26 Apr 15, 2008
lawnguy wrote:
some very fundamental questions that are a part of the immigration equation remain unanswered and often, unasked.
One is, do we have a right to measure our situation and put limits on growth, both of development and of population? Granted, we are a nation that was built by immigrants, but perhaps that time is over. We well may have exceeded the level of density necessary to use our resources effectively, and are now seeing the effects of overcrowding, and poorly planned growth.
Another question that other countries ask, but we seem reluctant to visit, is whether or not people wanting to enter this country have qualifications that would benefit our economy right away, or are they just hoping to improve their own lot in life? All to often we are being used as a bandaid for the problems that plague other nations rather than forcing those regions to make the basic changes to improve their own situations.
Most of the illegals we are talking about have nothing to offer but the sweat of their brow and a bent back. This is not about allowing talented individuals into the country to become productive and inventive citizens, it's about providing back breaking labor that few if any, natural born citizens are willing or capable of doing and our industries do not want to pay too high a price for.

Tell us lawnguy, do you employ any Mexicans? If you don;t it must put you at a disadvantage competing against those who do.
Whoa

Asheville, NC

#27 Apr 15, 2008
Bitter EX democrackkk wrote:
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Ah, the myopic yankee witch with another brilliant statement. where do you get these ideas from, your arse?
IMPOSTER ARSE! You know we love Susan Boyer! Susan this aint the real Bitter EX talking above.
Instead it is one of the imposters trying to steal my enlightened cleverness...
Ghost Dog

United States

#28 Apr 15, 2008
One business in Macon county has gotten rich using illegals. They get all the county and town jobs relating to landscaping. They have redone the town square using mexicans. Guess the Macon County and Franklin governments don't mind breaking the law to use illegals! Aren't governments supposed to uphold the law?

“Dimensions Beyond Left & Right”

Since: Feb 07

Asheville

#29 Apr 15, 2008
lawnguy wrote:
some very fundamental questions that are a part of the immigration equation remain unanswered and often, unasked.
One is, do we have a right to measure our situation and put limits on growth, both of development and of population? Granted, we are a nation that was built by immigrants, but perhaps that time is over. We well may have exceeded the level of density necessary to use our resources effectively, and are now seeing the effects of overcrowding, and poorly planned growth.
Another question that other countries ask, but we seem reluctant to visit, is whether or not people wanting to enter this country have qualifications that would benefit our economy right away, or are they just hoping to improve their own lot in life? All to often we are being used as a bandaid for the problems that plague other nations rather than forcing those regions to make the basic changes to improve their own situations.
You're right lawnguy. Those questions should be asked and discussed.

As to the first question regarding placing limits on our population growth, overcrowding and poorly planned growth, one of the obvious solutions would be to prevent people from breeding so much. Naturally, that's a dicey topic. But its the high numbers of people that create the population density problems. Less breeding = less people.

On the second question regarding the qualifications of people coming to this country, its my understanding there are, already in place, qualifications a person must meet in order to become a legal citizen of the U.S. It would be useful to research exactly what those qualifications are and determine if they need to be adjusted.

My biggest question related to the issue of immigration and overcrowding has to do with the massive illegal immigration that is being allowed. Why, in two terms of the Bush presidency, has the Bush administration not seen fit to enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books?

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