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Parent

Glasgow, KY

#1 Oct 5, 2012
Does Metcalfe co. Schools teach evolution
UNGODLY

Glasgow, KY

#2 Oct 8, 2012
Parent wrote:
Does Metcalfe co. Schools teach evolution
Well I guess nobody cares,& yes they do,Christians Wake up,Evolutionist are calling our Heavenly Farther a Liar,they have ran God out, & let the devil in, WE HAVE TO STAND UP AGAINST THE DEVIL OR HES GOING TO GET OUR CHILDREN,WE GOT TO TAKE ACTION,UNLESS WE ARE OF THIS WORLD,IF WE ARE WE'RE OF THE DEVIL
youre retarded

Lexington, KY

#3 Oct 11, 2012
I never heard it mentioned when I went to school in Metcalfe County for 13 years. Wish I would have though.
informed

Glasgow, KY

#4 Oct 13, 2012
UNGODLY wrote:
<quoted text>Well I guess nobody cares,& yes they do,Christians Wake up,Evolutionist are calling our Heavenly Farther a Liar,they have ran God out, & let the devil in, WE HAVE TO STAND UP AGAINST THE DEVIL OR HES GOING TO GET OUR CHILDREN,WE GOT TO TAKE ACTION,UNLESS WE ARE OF THIS WORLD,IF WE ARE WE'RE OF THE DEVIL
Evolution is a touchy subject, for reasons as demonstrated by "ungodly." Evolution is not simply the belief that man transformed from fish into what we are today.

I'm a Christian, I go to church every Sunday. I read the bible, pray, and try to live a Godly example in my life. I try to bring others to Christ and serve the Lord anyway I possibly can. But I do believe in evolution.

I believe that God created man, and that the first humans were Adam and Eve, but that doesn't mean I can't believe in evolution. Evolution is suddle changes over time in populations. Humans are evolving today. People are taller today than they were 50 years ago. That's evolution. It doesn't have to be apes transforming to humans.

As an endnote, I graduated from MCHS. Evolution wasn't taught heavily, but it was mentioned very basically in class. There's absolutely nothing immoral or ungodly within evolution. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Christians believing in evolution or evolution being taught in schools.

Just my opinion I suppose.
Paul

Glasgow, KY

#5 Oct 17, 2012
informed wrote:
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Evolution is a touchy subject, for reasons as demonstrated by "ungodly." Evolution is not simply the belief that man transformed from fish into what we are today.
I'm a Christian, I go to church every Sunday. I read the bible, pray, and try to live a Godly example in my life. I try to bring others to Christ and serve the Lord anyway I possibly can. But I do believe in evolution.
I believe that God created man, and that the first humans were Adam and Eve, but that doesn't mean I can't believe in evolution. Evolution is suddle changes over time in populations. Humans are evolving today. People are taller today than they were 50 years ago. That's evolution. It doesn't have to be apes transforming to humans.
As an endnote, I graduated from MCHS. Evolution wasn't taught heavily, but it was mentioned very basically in class. There's absolutely nothing immoral or ungodly within evolution. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Christians believing in evolution or evolution being taught in schools.
Just my opinion I suppose.
Out of kindness they were giants in the old testament, we live by every word of God, scientist lean to their on understandind,not the Bible, they're foolishness to God, every form of evolution is against the true Word of God, we're either for him or against him, we got to stand for the truth
informed

Glasgow, KY

#6 Oct 17, 2012
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>Out of kindness they were giants in the old testament, we live by every word of God, scientist lean to their on understandind,not the Bible, they're foolishness to God, every form of evolution is against the true Word of God, we're either for him or against him, we got to stand for the truth
Every form of evolution is not against the true word of God. That is the most ignorant form of God.

The example I gave earlier of people being taller today than they were 50 years in no way, shape, or form violates the word of God. That is evolution. It didn't contradict the bible in 1962, and it doesn't contradict it today in 2012.

People have grown up thinking evolution is bad and 100% against the bible. I grew up the same way, but now after having classes that open your eyes to how broad it is you realize that there's nothing wrong with believing in both. Having tunnel vision towards evolution is nothing but pure ignorance.
Paul

Glasgow, KY

#7 Oct 18, 2012
informed wrote:
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Every form of evolution is not against the true word of God. That is the most ignorant form of God.
The example I gave earlier of people being taller today than they were 50 years in no way, shape, or form violates the word of God. That is evolution. It didn't contradict the bible in 1962, and it doesn't contradict it today in 2012.
People have grown up thinking evolution is bad and 100% against the bible. I grew up the same way, but now after having classes that open your eyes to how broad it is you realize that there's nothing wrong with believing in both. Having tunnel vision towards evolution is nothing but pure ignorance.
Out of kindness, I was talking about evolutionist that was going against the word God,that was my point to start with, we are made in Gods image,if you look at the history of height, it just depends on which man you want to listen to, some say we're taller some say we're shorter today, one of my Grandfathers was short & one was tall, I'm in between,my brother is taller then me, again we are made in Gods image from the first man Adam. out of kindness,if you want to call me ignorant thats fine. The tallest man in the world, Robert Wadlow 1918-1940, thats the way God made him.
informed

Glasgow, KY

#8 Oct 18, 2012
Look up the facts. They're there.
Paul

Glasgow, KY

#9 Oct 20, 2012
informed wrote:
Look up the facts. They're there.
My facts comes from the Holy Bible, my Heavenly Father is the Beginning and the End, men were a lot taller and bigger in parts of the old Testament than they are today, and thats out of the mouth of God,the one who created everything, I'll take his word, the scientist are foolishness to God, they think they know more than the one that created them, God hates a proud person, the cares of the world has choked out God, sad but true. with love
John

Means, KY

#10 Oct 20, 2012
Paul, do you comply with everything in the OT?
informed

Glasgow, KY

#11 Oct 20, 2012
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>My facts comes from the Holy Bible, my Heavenly Father is the Beginning and the End, men were a lot taller and bigger in parts of the old Testament than they are today, and thats out of the mouth of God,the one who created everything, I'll take his word, the scientist are foolishness to God, they think they know more than the one that created them, God hates a proud person, the cares of the world has choked out God, sad but true. with love
Please give me a book, chapter, and verse that says that people were larger in B.C. than they are today.
Paul

Glasgow, KY

#12 Oct 21, 2012
informed wrote:
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Please give me a book, chapter, and verse that says that people were larger in B.C. than they are today.
I think everybody knows the story about David and Goliath (1 sam:17-4)(amos:2:9-10) type gaints of the Bible, it seems we know what our facebook friends are doing, but we don't know our Bibles, sad but true, with love
informed

Glasgow, KY

#13 Oct 21, 2012
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>I think everybody knows the story about David and Goliath (1 sam:17-4)(amos:2:9-10) type gaints of the Bible, it seems we know what our facebook friends are doing, but we don't know our Bibles, sad but true, with love
Those are indeed to prime cases of tall people in the old testament. Two. 2. 1+1.

Evolution isn't based on one individual or even two individuals. It's based on changes in populations or entire species. Just because one of your grandparents was tall and the other was short neither supports or refutes evolution. Neither does David and Goliath or Amorites. Just because there was a couple tall people in the old testament it still doesn't refute the fact that the average height of a person has increased over time.

Lastly, please do not talk to me like I do not know my Bible. I stated earlier that I am a Christian. Do not talk to me like I am an Atheist.
Johny

Dickinson, TX

#14 Oct 21, 2012
Informed,
If you really did know the science maybe you would not be so trusting of it. "Science" is distorted to prop up evolution. For example, the Second Law of Thermodynamics (SLoT) is in direct conflict with the supposed development of life. The SLoT is all about the direction of processes. Processes that are entropy decreasing and moving away from equilibrium (like evolution) are resisted. The direct response of systems are such that they go to the most probable state. For example, air in a balloon where the opening is left open will rush out. This is the spontaneous direction. We do not see the air going in from the natural environment. This would violate the SLoT. The issue of evolution is that you need a vast number of mutations that are very specific to allow development to occur. The probability is too small to even expect any development - the same reason the SLoT holds true.
Johny

Dickinson, TX

#15 Oct 21, 2012
John wrote:
Paul, do you comply with everything in the OT?
The ceremonial and judicial law was done away with so we would not expect to comply with everything in the OT. In fact the law of the old testament was given to show us our sin and to lead us to Jesus Christ where we believe in Him to take away our sins and to make us right before God the Father (Rom 3:19-26,Gal 3:19-25).
Johny

Dickinson, TX

#16 Oct 21, 2012
Here is a good link to refute evolution. The Second Law is the cause for this.

http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.com/entry/...
informed

Glasgow, KY

#17 Oct 22, 2012
Johny wrote:
Informed,
If you really did know the science maybe you would not be so trusting of it. "Science" is distorted to prop up evolution. For example, the Second Law of Thermodynamics (SLoT) is in direct conflict with the supposed development of life. The SLoT is all about the direction of processes. Processes that are entropy decreasing and moving away from equilibrium (like evolution) are resisted. The direct response of systems are such that they go to the most probable state. For example, air in a balloon where the opening is left open will rush out. This is the spontaneous direction. We do not see the air going in from the natural environment. This would violate the SLoT. The issue of evolution is that you need a vast number of mutations that are very specific to allow development to occur. The probability is too small to even expect any development - the same reason the SLoT holds true.
1. No, you don't need a "vast number of mutations" to constitute a population evolving.

2. Thermodynamics and SLot have nothing to do with biological sciences. They are both chemistry/physics and have no relationship with evolution.

As for my knowledge of science, I never made below an A in any science and had a 103 in my Biological Evolution class.

Lastly, as I have stated multiple times before I am a Christian. I know the bible and I know how to get to heaven. I don't consider myself a scientist or chemist or any of that type of person. I am a Christian so please do not judge me based on my knowledge of subjects.

I do not think you are going to convince me that evolution is wrong. I also don't think I'm going to convince you that evolution doesn't refute the bible.

Either way, if we both believe in the Bible, have been saved and baptized, and live Godly lives, we will go to Heaven no matter our opinions of evolution.

Cheers.
Johny

Dickinson, TX

#18 Oct 23, 2012
informed wrote:
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1. No, you don't need a "vast number of mutations" to constitute a population evolving.
If you look at life from a systems perspective, you do need a large number of mutations to allow new function. Imagine the mutation of a new cell. How many mutations would this take? What is the probability of this? Even with a large population, the probability is too small - especially when you consider that the mutations must coalesce into one genome!
informed wrote:
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2. Thermodynamics and SLot have nothing to do with biological sciences. They are both chemistry/physics and have no relationship with evolution.
I am sorry my dear but you got this one wrong. Thermodynamics effects all systems in the universe, including life. Entropy has to do with the level of order. For example, if you take a fish tank and put a glass dividing wall in the tank with dyed water on one side with plain water on the next and lift the divider, you will expect the dye to diffuse into the whole tank. The closely ordered dye will tend to become less ordered with the molecules becoming more randomly distributed over the whole container. Even a small entropy change can have significant ramifications on the system. The natural direction is for ordered systems to move to less ordered systems! This is especially true for systems which do not have some ordering mechanism. With evolution the vast number of mutations lead to no increase in function, and the natural state tends to move to the most probable state - the one of greater entropy.
informed wrote:
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As for my knowledge of science, I never made below an A in any science and had a 103 in my Biological Evolution class.
So how come you think that the implications of thermodynamics does not effect all systems? Does not the second law of thermodynamics concern the direction of processes? Could we not look at any process and use thermodynamics to see if it will naturally proceed?
informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Lastly, as I have stated multiple times before I am a Christian. I know the bible and I know how to get to heaven. I don't consider myself a scientist or chemist or any of that type of person. I am a Christian so please do not judge me based on my knowledge of subjects.
So you can make idle statements about science and when someone calls you on it, then you don't want them to judge you. Hmmm.
informed wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not think you are going to convince me that evolution is wrong. I also don't think I'm going to convince you that evolution doesn't refute the bible.
Either way, if we both believe in the Bible, have been saved and baptized, and live Godly lives, we will go to Heaven no matter our opinions of evolution.
Cheers.
We need to confess our sin before God and live in faith that God will take us to heaven. Jesus died on the cross so that sinners may believe. Our works do not save us (Eph. 2:8,9) but Jesus' work on the cross does saves us - he takes our punishment and we take his perfect life lived in perfection without sin. The problem with evolution is that you must agree to naturalism which says that God cannot work miracles. Also, you will not believe in Genesis 1 & 2 where God made man and woman supernaturally. When you take the next step of denying the miracles of the Bible then you are left with nothing for Jesus would be only a liar or crazy man. He would not have the truth and your religion would be worthless!
Paul

Glasgow, KY

#19 Oct 23, 2012
Johny wrote:
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If you look at life from a systems perspective, you do need a large number of mutations to allow new function. Imagine the mutation of a new cell. How many mutations would this take? What is the probability of this? Even with a large population, the probability is too small - especially when you consider that the mutations must coalesce into one genome!
<quoted text>
I am sorry my dear but you got this one wrong. Thermodynamics effects all systems in the universe, including life. Entropy has to do with the level of order. For example, if you take a fish tank and put a glass dividing wall in the tank with dyed water on one side with plain water on the next and lift the divider, you will expect the dye to diffuse into the whole tank. The closely ordered dye will tend to become less ordered with the molecules becoming more randomly distributed over the whole container. Even a small entropy change can have significant ramifications on the system. The natural direction is for ordered systems to move to less ordered systems! This is especially true for systems which do not have some ordering mechanism. With evolution the vast number of mutations lead to no increase in function, and the natural state tends to move to the most probable state - the one of greater entropy.
<quoted text>
So how come you think that the implications of thermodynamics does not effect all systems? Does not the second law of thermodynamics concern the direction of processes? Could we not look at any process and use thermodynamics to see if it will naturally proceed?
<quoted text>
So you can make idle statements about science and when someone calls you on it, then you don't want them to judge you. Hmmm.
<quoted text> We need to confess our sin before God and live in faith that God will take us to heaven. Jesus died on the cross so that sinners may believe. Our works do not save us (Eph. 2:8,9) but Jesus' work on the cross does saves us - he takes our punishment and we take his perfect life lived in perfection without sin. The problem with evolution is that you must agree to naturalism which says that God cannot work miracles. Also, you will not believe in Genesis 1 & 2 where God made man and woman supernaturally. When you take the next step of denying the miracles of the Bible then you are left with nothing for Jesus would be only a liar or crazy man. He would not have the truth and your religion would be worthless!
(Amen)
Paul

Glasgow, KY

#20 Oct 23, 2012
informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are indeed to prime cases of tall people in the old testament. Two. 2. 1+1.
Evolution isn't based on one individual or even two individuals. It's based on changes in populations or entire species. Just because one of your grandparents was tall and the other was short neither supports or refutes evolution. Neither does David and Goliath or Amorites. Just because there was a couple tall people in the old testament it still doesn't refute the fact that the average height of a person has increased over time.
Lastly, please do not talk to me like I do not know my Bible. I stated earlier that I am a Christian. Do not talk to me like I am an Atheist.
A couple, maybe we need to close the science books, and open our Bibles, the world has choked out Gods people... with love

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