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Concerns over attacks on Indian immigrants in Edison -

There are 19 comments on the Newsday story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Concerns over attacks on Indian immigrants in Edison -. In it, Newsday reports that:

Police in Edison report eight incidents such as assaults and vandalism involving Indian victims at the Durham Woods complex since June, although some area residents say the real number may be higher since new ...

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Martin Bormann

New York, NY

#1 Oct 14, 2007
OF COURSE, Newsday once again omits salient information, creating a false impression in the minds of its readership as well as endangering the public.
As local Chanel reported (in the very last sentence from the on-site reporter) the perpetrators was a gang of "African-American" teens.

What the hell have Indians ever done to blacks to provoke this sort of disgusting, cowardly attack? But most of you will be too busy gnashing your teeth and pulling your hair over the non-story in Jena, and won't give a thought to these Indians nor to the rabbi who was attacked with a baseball bat -by a black man shouting anti-semitic epithets! The silence is deafening!
black citizen

Virginia Beach, VA

#2 Oct 15, 2007
Martin Bormann wrote:
OF COURSE, Newsday once again omits salient information, creating a false impression in the minds of its readership as well as endangering the public.
As local Chanel reported (in the very last sentence from the on-site reporter) the perpetrators was a gang of "African-American" teens.
What the hell have Indians ever done to blacks to provoke this sort of disgusting, cowardly attack? But most of you will be too busy gnashing your teeth and pulling your hair over the non-story in Jena, and won't give a thought to these Indians nor to the rabbi who was attacked with a baseball bat -by a black man shouting anti-semitic epithets! The silence is deafening!
I agree with what you have stated. These teens should brought up on charges for their cowardly act. We can't scream injustice and over look justice. This is just a memo to Al and Jesse. Fairness for all.

“Atheists are Non-Prophet”

Since: Sep 07

Long Island

#3 Oct 15, 2007
Martin Bormann wrote:
OF COURSE, Newsday once again omits salient information, creating a false impression in the minds of its readership as well as endangering the public.
As local Chanel reported (in the very last sentence from the on-site reporter) the perpetrators was a gang of "African-American" teens.
What the hell have Indians ever done to blacks to provoke this sort of disgusting, cowardly attack? But most of you will be too busy gnashing your teeth and pulling your hair over the non-story in Jena, and won't give a thought to these Indians nor to the rabbi who was attacked with a baseball bat -by a black man shouting anti-semitic epithets! The silence is deafening!
Yes we should be reporting the story completely but why is it an assumption by you that they attacked Indians because they (attackers) were black?

In Jena they hung nooses from a tree. Do you know the connotation? the incident and the prosecution had everything to do with race.

The act is racist if it was commited because of the race of the victim. The race of the perp is a secondary factor, sometimes contributing to the actual attack sometimes not, but always contributes to the culture and the climate.
Martin Bormann

New York, NY

#4 Oct 15, 2007
God is make believe wrote:
<quoted text> Yes we should be reporting the story completely but why is it an assumption by you that they attacked Indians because they (attackers) were black?
In Jena they hung nooses from a tree. Do you know the connotation? the incident and the prosecution had everything to do with race.
The act is racist if it was commited because of the race of the victim. The race of the perp is a secondary factor, sometimes contributing to the actual attack sometimes not, but always contributes to the culture and the climate.
your pathetic attempt to parse the facts amply demonstrates why "hate crimes" are idiotic and will not be applied even-handedly.
You really think you can get in the head of an assailant? Motive is not an element needed to be proven in any common-law crime. It's nice to have because it builds a case, but it is really not logical, and also has free-thought implications.
FYI, the victims claim they have been targeted because they are Indians. Why won't you take them at their word, when you would take the word of any black assaulted by a white without question?
The very notion of a "hate crime" is idiotic. I would add that many, many white tourists or other whites are regularly targeted in inner city neighborhoods for robbery or worse.(I recall several incidents of murder of European tourists in Miami years back -- clearly targeted because of their race --but no hate crime indictment.It's all a joke, and you know it!)
Martin Bormann

New York, NY

#5 Oct 15, 2007
Martin Bormann wrote:
OF COURSE, Newsday once again omits salient information, creating a false impression in the minds of its readership as well as endangering the public.
As local Chanel reported (in the very last sentence from the on-site reporter) the perpetrators was a gang of "African-American" teens.
What the hell have Indians ever done to blacks to provoke this sort of disgusting, cowardly attack? But most of you will be too busy gnashing your teeth and pulling your hair over the non-story in Jena, and won't give a thought to these Indians nor to the rabbi who was attacked with a baseball bat -by a black man shouting anti-semitic epithets! The silence is deafening!
Sorry, that was "local channel 9" -- merely a typo.
Martin Bormann

New York, NY

#6 Oct 15, 2007
black citizen wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with what you have stated. These teens should brought up on charges for their cowardly act. We can't scream injustice and over look justice. This is just a memo to Al and Jesse. Fairness for all.
I will take you at your word. It is this double standard that angers and frustrates many whites of good will. What's good for the goose...but because Al and Jesse cannot get any money or shake down any local pols or attack any white people (politicians, usually) don't hold your breath. This will be ignored.
I'll tell you this -- if either of them would go there and condemn these attacks, they would generate a lot of positive support from white America. But we know better --these are the same guys who defend Sonny Carson, who during the Crown Heights riots referred to Asian shopkeepers as "yellow monkeys" and encouraged an illegal boycott and threats, and neither man condemned him.

“Atheists are Non-Prophet”

Since: Sep 07

Long Island

#7 Oct 15, 2007
Martin Bormann wrote:
<quoted text>
your pathetic attempt to parse the facts amply demonstrates why "hate crimes" are idiotic and will not be applied even-handedly.
You really think you can get in the head of an assailant? Motive is not an element needed to be proven in any common-law crime. It's nice to have because it builds a case, but it is really not logical, and also has free-thought implications.
FYI, the victims claim they have been targeted because they are Indians. Why won't you take them at their word, when you would take the word of any black assaulted by a white without question?
The very notion of a "hate crime" is idiotic. I would add that many, many white tourists or other whites are regularly targeted in inner city neighborhoods for robbery or worse.(I recall several incidents of murder of European tourists in Miami years back -- clearly targeted because of their race --but no hate crime indictment.It's all a joke, and you know it!)
I never said I was for Hate Crime status or believe in hate crime as a lable.

Racism is hate PERIOD.
RNNTV COM

Pearl River, NY

#8 Oct 15, 2007
The intifada started in Genesis 16:12

And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

ISHMAEL IS THE FOUNDER OF Jebusites, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines, Hivites, Hittites, Midianites, Amalekites, Egyptians, Chaldeans, Babylonians, Arabs, Medes and Persians.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Moses of Israel won and Pharaoh of Egypt lost.

David of Israel won and Goliath of Philistines lost.

I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.

“Atheists are Non-Prophet”

Since: Sep 07

Long Island

#9 Oct 16, 2007
RNNTV COM wrote:
The intifada started in Genesis 16:12
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
ISHMAEL IS THE FOUNDER OF Jebusites, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines, Hivites, Hittites, Midianites, Amalekites, Egyptians, Chaldeans, Babylonians, Arabs, Medes and Persians.
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Moses of Israel won and Pharaoh of Egypt lost.
David of Israel won and Goliath of Philistines lost.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
So that would make you a Justincaseian.
larry

Hauppauge, NY

#10 Oct 16, 2007
God is make believe wrote:
<quoted text>
So that would make you a Justincaseian.
lolol clever
guest

United States

#11 Oct 18, 2007
The same juvenile group routinely harrases Indian women in the complex. They flash themselves and shout "go back to your country". Would you label these as Racist ?
one indian

Abingdon, VA

#12 Oct 18, 2007
same thing is happening in journal square's most secure area near social security centre . i heard 4-5 incidents happened in last 15 days. nd all victims were indian nd attackers were american-african. but nobody complaint to police as they thought police never gonna help them. i don't know why r they targeting indian..
Raj Shekhar

Hackettstown, NJ

#13 Oct 18, 2007
It is racist indeed. In 2004, I had faced one. I did call 911 - cops never showed up. I was thrown snow ball on my car. Edison has most incompetent cops.
Ravi Shankar

Hackettstown, NJ

#14 Oct 18, 2007
Yes it is indeed racist. I have to see what Choi does before he comes for next election. Cops must meet people and assure them of safety, so that they can speak out. Also a police round up is must. I remember anti Indian graffiti - I had myself reported cops and NYT(sic - they never published) and it was hushed p by apartment complex maintenence folks. Wake up Choi.
Adah J

Medford, NJ

#15 Oct 21, 2007
Let me express this as my "opinion." It took blacks , esp, YEARS to get equal justice. New immigrants is the key word here. I know exactly where this apartment complex is and the place is Flooded with people from India. When they are walking in the middle of the road, have their children riding bikes in the middle of the street, not speaking a word of english in the middle of the street but its okay. I am not agreeing that anyone should target another bc of race, gender or religion. From my experience,lack of manners, quick to receive government benefits also, BO that should be address and the airborne smell from their cooking. Iam tired of hearing how beautiful their counrty is while Iam still scratching my head wondering why the heck are you here??? As long as blacks folks are the attackers it's okay to have the issue get exposed. How many times have these individuals been called racist names, OH I forgot their ENGLISH IS NO GOOD...but they can understand that blacks are making racist comments and telling them to go back to their country.. Funny have quickly the tables get turned. Check their immigration status and report that also. Give the tax payers statistics on who really lives in that one apartment complex alone. Last time I checked if your illegal thats is a felony,so start the deportation process. Maybe thats the reason no one wants to say anything. Or maybe the 5% of black and whites that are left in the complex, others can't wait to get them forced out.In the next report can the stats also be supplied to the Edison community, the number of ER visits from attacked victims.Then have Mr. Mayor report illegal asians in Edison..IS YOUR ENGLISH STILL NO GOOD??
Martin Bormann

New York, NY

#16 Oct 23, 2007
Adah J wrote:
Let me express this as my "opinion." It took blacks , esp, YEARS to get equal justice. New immigrants is the key word here. I know exactly where this apartment complex is and the place is Flooded with people from India. When they are walking in the middle of the road, have their children riding bikes in the middle of the street, not speaking a word of english in the middle of the street but its okay. I am not agreeing that anyone should target another bc of race, gender or religion. From my experience,lack of manners, quick to receive government benefits also, BO that should be address and the airborne smell from their cooking. Iam tired of hearing how beautiful their counrty is while Iam still scratching my head wondering why the heck are you here??? As long as blacks folks are the attackers it's okay to have the issue get exposed. How many times have these individuals been called racist names, OH I forgot their ENGLISH IS NO GOOD...but they can understand that blacks are making racist comments and telling them to go back to their country.. Funny have quickly the tables get turned. Check their immigration status and report that also. Give the tax payers statistics on who really lives in that one apartment complex alone. Last time I checked if your illegal thats is a felony,so start the deportation process. Maybe thats the reason no one wants to say anything. Or maybe the 5% of black and whites that are left in the complex, others can't wait to get them forced out.In the next report can the stats also be supplied to the Edison community, the number of ER visits from attacked victims.Then have Mr. Mayor report illegal asians in Edison..IS YOUR ENGLISH STILL NO GOOD??
You are a prime example of who the REAL haters and bigots are in the USA today. While I have encountered some of the stereotypes you cite, they are just as often not true, whereas when it comes to blacks, virtually every negative stereotype is on brilliant display every single time I encounter one. As a member of a group who supposedly still suffers from "racism", you ought to be ashamed of yourself for saying and thinking what you do.(but I guess blacks have no shame...)
cvanderbilt

Mahopac, NY

#17 Oct 23, 2007
black citizen wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with what you have stated. These teens should brought up on charges for their cowardly act. We can't scream injustice and over look justice. This is just a memo to Al and Jesse. Fairness for all.
Very well said.
David C

Atlanta, GA

#18 Oct 25, 2007
Indian Hindu people are the biggest racist alive on this planet. They beleive that lower class people or lower cast people were put on earth to serve them because that is there kharma and if they are good poop cleaners or whatever after they die then they get to come back as first class citizens. So it is o.k. to be poor and black and get kicked around. Do you have any idea how much rage a black has to deal with because of the way religous racist scum treat them."...how very easy it is to cloak your prejudice in piety and find a following for intolerance."
David C

Atlanta, GA

#19 Oct 25, 2007
Iam not saying that violance is o.k. and I DON'T hold anything against Indian Hindus. I think they are an asset to America and the next time I meet a Hindu I am going to say welcome to America. I am truly sorry that the people in Plainfield were assalted but I find Hindu religon confusing like all religon. People say one thing and do another.I beleive we are all brothers, every race. But don't jive me please.

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