3 mayors oppose any effort to stop beach driving

Jul 29, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Daytona Beach News-Journal Online

Looking south from the Flagler Avenue beach approach in New Smyrna Beach, beach lovers gather under umbrellas or cool off in the surf as temperatures hit the mid-90s Wednesday.

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Bob Gustavson

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Jul 29, 2010
 
How about beach parking only in very restricted areas, similar to a parking lot on the sand? No "cruising" up and down in traffic lanes.

We have to do something to stop the accidents, other than tell people to be more careful.
mom of 5

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Jul 29, 2010
 
If a child darted in front of cars at walmart would they close the parking lots? Did they close highway 11 after the kid darted into traffic? Don't think so. I managed to raise 5 kids without getting them run down on beach. All of them were 1-2 years apart so beach was a hassel when they were young,but was able to manage. These were terrible accidents. A parent needs to stay on their toes constantly and be ready for the unexpected with little ones. I am tired of the fact we are always trying to protect society from themselves. What happened to basic common sense. As I work with the public and talk to alot of people I don't see much of it anymore. Accidents happen.

Since: Jul 10

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Interesting, the jist of the article in the Observer is not that the mayors are all opposed to a ban on beach driving but rather opposed to a consultant. They want to raise beach driving fees in order to purchase land on the island for parking.

And I'll say it again, there are more people and more cars on the beaches now. I don't know when you raised your children here but even the last 10 years have had a huge increase in the numbers and it's no longer a safe thing to do.

I agree that we need more no-drive beaches. Just keep the driving beaches north of Flagler where there are more surfers and fisherman and less parking.

What's wrong with that?
mom of 5 in FL

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Raised all 5 here.Took them to beach in daytona every weekend as with 5 kids money was tight.Less traffic there now than before they ruined Daytona.Oldest is 26 youngest 19 and all still alive.Grandson 2 and loves beach with grandma&grandpa.HAVE TO WATCH THEM OUR JOB TO KEEP SAFE
bob

Orlando, FL

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Jul 29, 2010
 
mom of 5 in FL: we have traffic lights, speed limits, other places where cars cannot go. Do you think we should be able to drive into Disney or through parades, or into parks or other congested areas? Just tell parents to "be careful" while we drive around their kids. It's time to change the beach driving regulations. We've ruined things by thinking we have the right to drive where ever we want.
mom of 5 in FL

Ormond Beach, FL

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Aug 5, 2010
 
Daytona area beaches were always driven on.It is part of what makes Daytona.Do you know where the racing started here? Take away the little bit of history left here and you take away the few tourists we have left as our family afforadble motels on the beach are gone!There are non-driving areas on the beach if you cannot watch your children.USE THEM

Since: Jun 07

New Smyrna Beach

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Aug 7, 2010
 
bob wrote:
mom of 5 in FL: we have traffic lights, speed limits, other places where cars cannot go. Do you think we should be able to drive into Disney or through parades, or into parks or other congested areas? Just tell parents to "be careful" while we drive around their kids. It's time to change the beach driving regulations. We've ruined things by thinking we have the right to drive where ever we want.
"....thinking we have the right..."? Wrong! We do have the right. It is the law. Some want to take that right away from us.
NSB

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 7, 2010
 
ClamBob wrote:
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"....thinking we have the right..."? Wrong! We do have the right. It is the law. Some want to take that right away from us.
Its not a right, its a privilege. If it were a right, there would be more beaches that allow driving. As times change the rules have to change. The world and our beaches are becoming more populated with both cars and people.

None of us are probably old enough to remember when anyone of any age could drink and smoke, but those rules changed too. People oppose and challenge change, its only human. However, lives are being lost, and that is not fair to the children. People are looking around the beach while driving,instead of paying attention. How else does someone laying on the beach get run over, they didn't run in front of the vehicle while laying down.

If people want to drive on the beach, there needs be be a wall of parked cars between where driving is allowed and where people walk. That way when the kids dart from their cars, they will be running to the beach instead of into lanes of traffic.

Since: Jun 07

New Smyrna Beach

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Aug 7, 2010
 
You may call it a privilege if it pleases you, but until they pass a law against it, I have the right to drive on the beach. If you put it that way, drinking at a bar or owning a gun is a privilege until they outlaw guns and bars. Funny how something becomes a privilege just before it is taken away.
NSB

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 8, 2010
 
Owning a gun is a right that was given to us by our founding fathers, the right to bear arms.

Our rights are listed in the Bill of Rights, and I don't think I will find beach driving there, so I consider it a privilege. Privileges are being confused with rights when changes are considered.

There has to be a happy medium. Those who are in favor or beach driving don't want to find a happy medium, which is sad considering more lives could be lost if the rules don't change to benefit all.

I dont care if people drive on the beach, but there needs to be guidelines and rules to keep people safe.
magnumbob

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 8, 2010
 
How many drownings and shark attacks have we had on our beaches over the years?
Maybe we should just close those dangerous beaches down all together.

Since: Jun 07

New Smyrna Beach

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Aug 8, 2010
 
We have a right to anything a law is not written opposing it. I have a right to cross a street until a law is written against it. If you want to talk about civil rights, go ahead.

Yes there are laws written to preserve certain rights. Other laws are written to take away our rights.

I have made many suggestions. It seems there is no happy medium for those who OPPOSE beach driving, not those who support it.

Offer to lower the speed limit, make more sections non-driving, make sections one-way. But no...

How can you say it is those who support beach driving who can't find a happy medium. It is those who are intolerant who will not accept anything less than no beach driving.

Since: Jul 10

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 8, 2010
 
Lowering the 10MPH speed limit is not going to do anything to alleviate the dangerous conditions. I go to the beach often and though I have seen people doing stupid things while driving I would say that 95% of them are abiding by the laws. There are just too many people.

This morning we finally got some much needed rain and it kept a lot of people away from the beaches. I went down there at about 1:30 for a walk and it was great. There were hardly any cars, most of the people on the beach had walked there and it was just beautiful.

For all those of you who want to drive, I challenge you to go to the beach early in the morning when there are no cars driving through. The beaches are so beautiful at that time of day. I think it's a site many of you have never seen.

Since: Jun 07

New Smyrna Beach

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Aug 8, 2010
 
"Lowering the 10MPH speed limit is not going to do anything to alleviate the dangerous conditions."

Cutting the speed limit in half will do nothing? You are right, there is no middle ground. You are the proof.
NSBMom

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 8, 2010
 
ClamBob wrote:
We have a right to anything a law is not written opposing it. I have a right to cross a street until a law is written against it. If you want to talk about civil rights, go ahead.
Yes there are laws written to preserve certain rights. Other laws are written to take away our rights.
I have made many suggestions. It seems there is no happy medium for those who OPPOSE beach driving, not those who support it.
Offer to lower the speed limit, make more sections non-driving, make sections one-way. But no...
How can you say it is those who support beach driving who can't find a happy medium. It is those who are intolerant who will not accept anything less than no beach driving.
You have the right to cross a street, I agree, but the law says do it at a corner or your jay walking.

I have said to make the beach south of Flagler driving, north of Flagler non-driving, but that was shot down. So was the idea to put a buffer of parked cars between the driving area and the beach, but that wasn't liked either.

My friends who live on the beach are completely opposed to any restriction on beach driving, yet they take their grand children only to the non-driving beach. Imagine that

Since: Jul 10

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 9, 2010
 
ClamBob wrote:
"Lowering the 10MPH speed limit is not going to do anything to alleviate the dangerous conditions."
Cutting the speed limit in half will do nothing? You are right, there is no middle ground. You are the proof.
Sorry if I offended you but 10 miles an hour is pretty slow, it's hard to go much slower and not get caught in the sand at high tide.

You're right I don't like beach driving but as I've said before if people want it so badly then drive North of Flagler where there is little opportunity to create parking and make another no drive beach from Flagler to 8th where the city has approved the building of 7 story commercial buildings with business on the beach side. Mandate that new construction to include public beach parking. More beach parking, the city doesn't pay for it and there are safer beaches in the heart of the town. i don't see why you would be so opposed...sounds like compromise to me.
JFK_JR

Brentwood, TN

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Aug 13, 2010
 
Parents control your small children. Reopen the beach south of 27th Ave to spread the crowds. Lower the speed limit to 5 mph and strictly enforce it. Ban the jacked up pickup trucks from the beach. Strictly enforce the no beer/booze rules on the beach.

I've been driving on the New Smyrna Beach for thirty years and I want to continue doing so for at least fifteen more.
Lovely Rita

New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Aug 13, 2010
 
JFK_JR wrote:
Parents control your small children. Reopen the beach south of 27th Ave to spread the crowds. Lower the speed limit to 5 mph and strictly enforce it. Ban the jacked up pickup trucks from the beach. Strictly enforce the no beer/booze rules on the beach.
I've been driving on the New Smyrna Beach for thirty years and I want to continue doing so for at least fifteen more.
The folks south of 27th would never give up those no drive beaches! Frankly I envy them their lovely beaches, if only it was closer to the center of town.
We need more off beach parking for those days when the beaches are over crowded. People on my beach, 9th Ave double park on the busy days, it gets pretty crazy with people going up and down looking for a spot to park as well as moving cars back and forth in the soft sand!
word from off

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Aug 14, 2010
 
dam i miss the beach.
Jac

Elgin, TX

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Dec 2, 2010
 
There are plenty of no drive beaches to take your children to. Stop blaming your parenting negligence and poor choices on others!! My family has been visiting daytona beach drive friendly beaches for over 40 years without a single problem. Keep the beach open for driving. If you have small children and are fearful of an incident please take them to a nearby no drive beach!!!

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