Southeast Volusia pair face felony po...

Southeast Volusia pair face felony pot charge

There are 27 comments on the Daytona Beach News-Journal Online story from Dec 17, 2010, titled Southeast Volusia pair face felony pot charge. In it, Daytona Beach News-Journal Online reports that:

A former volunteer Edgewater firefighter and his wife were arrested after an anonymous tipster told the Sheriff's Office the couple were growing marijuana in a small room of their residence, according to an arrest report.

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Tommy

Clermont, FL

#1 Dec 18, 2010
Well you shouldn't be dealing weed and trying to represent the public image at the same time. Makes public service look bad!
Ho Lee Schitt

Richmond, IN

#2 Dec 18, 2010
Hopefully the vile snitch will get what's coming to them! Informants are the scum of the earth!
Tommy

Clermont, FL

#3 Dec 18, 2010
Hopefully the snitch, who is looking out for the interests of law enforcement, will get what's coming to them, in the form of blessings from God. Nothing wrong with true soldiers of justice who love the law and support our nation. May God rebuke you for what you have just said in the name of Jesus.
Tommy

Clermont, FL

#4 Dec 18, 2010
How do you even really know there was a snitch? And by snitch, do you mean informant? If I was being hurt or assaulted in my home, I would hope that my neighbors would call the police and REPORT crime like we're supposed to as our duty in this country. It's people like you, "Ho Lee Schitt" that make a bad image. You should be put in jail for even making a threat like that and I hope and pray you get arrested soon for something. May God our Father rebuke you with fire and cast you into outer darkness for all eternity in the name of Jesus our Messiah.

Shalom Aleichem
Tommy

Clermont, FL

#5 Dec 18, 2010
Why are informants the scum of the earth? How else can police get drug dealers off the streets? The scum of the earth ARE THE DRUG DEALERS. May God bless those who have the bravery to report crime and seek justice.

Shalom Aleichem
Gregor

Clermont, FL

#6 Dec 18, 2010
So Ho Lee Shit, if my neighbor is beating his wife night after night, I'm supposed to just ignore it and let it happen? If I report it to the police, do I become a scumbag too? Will something bad happen to me because I care about the law?
Tom

Edgewater, FL

#7 Dec 19, 2010
Interesting that some people think growing some pot plants is on the same level as assault and murder... Perhaps we should have just one penalty for all crimes - Death! Kill someone - Death!- Run a red light - Death! Steal some food - Death! You have to admit that would make for a more orderly society! Of course, the rich would avoid these penaltys because... well, they are just better than everyone else!
Bob

Clermont, FL

#8 Dec 19, 2010
Laws are laws. This wasn't a case of people growing pot plants. It's a case of two people who represent the community, one an advertising executive for a local newspaper, the other a firefighter, who were SELLING ILLEGAL DRUGS. They are DRUG DEALERS. Yes, it's on the same level as assault and murder because drugs kill people. That's why they're illegal. Funny how pot smokers come up with all kinds of reasons to justify their crimes and try and downsize it, but in the end it's a harmful chemical being smoked by their victims, which eventually leads to lung cancer, heart disease and death.
Felicia

Clermont, FL

#9 Dec 19, 2010
tom i'm not sure where you were raised but i was taught in school to report crime if i know it's happening the police are good people and pot messes up yer brain and turns you into a vegtable
Fleming Rasmussen

Clermont, FL

#10 Dec 21, 2010
Tom wrote:
Interesting that some people think growing some pot plants is on the same level as assault and murder... Perhaps we should have just one penalty for all crimes - Death! Kill someone - Death!- Run a red light - Death! Steal some food - Death! You have to admit that would make for a more orderly society! Of course, the rich would avoid these penaltys because... well, they are just better than everyone else!
Apparently you don't know how to read an article idiot. No one was growing plants here. they suspected there was a grow, but it turns out the situation was much worse, these alleged trusted members of the government service community were dealing drugs to our children and ruining people's lives. I wouldn't want a strung out pot head drug dealer coming to my house in an emergency situation that requires good decision making ability that an EMT or Firefighter is supposed to have.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#11 Dec 21, 2010
Bob wrote:
Laws are laws. This wasn't a case of people growing pot plants. It's a case of two people who represent the community, one an advertising executive for a local newspaper, the other a firefighter, who were SELLING ILLEGAL DRUGS. They are DRUG DEALERS. Yes, it's on the same level as assault and murder because drugs kill people. That's why they're illegal. Funny how pot smokers come up with all kinds of reasons to justify their crimes and try and downsize it, but in the end it's a harmful chemical being smoked by their victims, which eventually leads to lung cancer, heart disease and death.
Bob,

Cannabis is illegal not because it kills people (FYI, it doesn't), but because a few influential persons manipulated the law for their own personal gain. Alcohol and tobacco kill over 100,000 people a year yet are legal. There has been no link between cannabis and cancer. Vaporization negates any risk of smoking.
If you don't believe me, look up it's origins for yourself.
Cannabis is illegal because of money, nothing else.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#12 Dec 21, 2010
Felicia wrote:
tom i'm not sure where you were raised but i was taught in school to report crime if i know it's happening the police are good people and pot messes up yer brain and turns you into a vegtable
Felicia,

Please tell me you are kidding. You can't possibly be that misinformed regarding cannabis.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#13 Dec 21, 2010
Tommy wrote:
How do you even really know there was a snitch? And by snitch, do you mean informant? If I was being hurt or assaulted in my home, I would hope that my neighbors would call the police and REPORT crime like we're supposed to as our duty in this country. It's people like you, "Ho Lee Schitt" that make a bad image. You should be put in jail for even making a threat like that and I hope and pray you get arrested soon for something. May God our Father rebuke you with fire and cast you into outer darkness for all eternity in the name of Jesus our Messiah.
Shalom Aleichem
Tommy,

there's a big difference between someone being assaulted and someone having cannabis. Assaults have a victim, someone with cannabis in their house, does not. Only the ignorant would even think to compare the two.
It is self-righteous folks like yourself that "make a bad image". You come off as this wonderful religious, God fearing person, then you wish someone get arrested and wish damnation on him??? All because he took umbrance with someone who reported a guy with an HERB in his house???
Before you go damning anyone else, why don't you look up the origins of this prohibition that you see as so righteous. When you see how it was acheived, and the persons who acheived it, you may just change your tune.
Fleming Rasmussen

Clermont, FL

#14 Dec 21, 2010
Len and the other potheads, bottom line is this: The law of the land says Marijuana is illegal. I've met many drug addicts who have stolen from our business, I believe it impairs judgment. As for comparing the legality of it and alcohol, our family doesn't condone tobacco or drunkeness either. We have wine at the Lord's Supper, on the Paschal meals, but not to indulge in personal pleasure. Many people will disagree with you simply because they believe in self sacrifice, and they put other people before themselves. To live a life of self sacrifice and follow after the Great Teacher we must abandon chasing after selfish personal things.

No one is damning anyone here. Most people seem to be in support of law enforcement and the laws that protect our citizens from drug dealers.
Fleming Rasmussen

Clermont, FL

#15 Dec 21, 2010
Len, I really don't care why cannabis is illegal according to you. The state and the school system have taught us that it is a drug, it impairs one's ability to make proper and quick decisions, it impairs driving, it slows down people, it adds fat lipids to cells in males that shouldn't have fat buildup, and bottom line over all: YOU DON'T REALLY NEED IT. YOU CAN LIVE A HAPPY LIFE WITHOUT IT.

I have seen how irritable people get when they don't have it also. Like someone else said, spend your time and money doing something constructive with your life. Use your education and think. Why waste it burning out your mind's cells on a self indulgence?

Seek service for others. That's the key to happiness.
Gregor

Clermont, FL

#16 Dec 22, 2010
Len in NY wrote:
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Felicia,
Please tell me you are kidding. You can't possibly be that misinformed regarding cannabis.
How is she misinformed? Ever look at the mental health of a 50-60 year old pot smoker? Ever see how lacking they are in common courtesy and decency with people? Most pot heads are just like any other drug addict, self centered, reserved, lacking in social skills, and angry when they don't have their crutch addiction.

Felicia, you keep on doing what you were taught in school, SAY NO TO DRUGS, and yes Marijuana is a drug, it will mess up your life and it's very difficult to quit drugs once you start. It also leads to other drug abuse with adolescents in many cases where if Marijuana had not been introduced to them, they would never have been susceptible to suggestion for other drugs through peers.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#17 Dec 22, 2010
Fleming Rasmussen wrote:
Len and the other potheads, bottom line is this: The law of the land says Marijuana is illegal. I've met many drug addicts who have stolen from our business, I believe it impairs judgment. As for comparing the legality of it and alcohol, our family doesn't condone tobacco or drunkeness either. We have wine at the Lord's Supper, on the Paschal meals, but not to indulge in personal pleasure. Many people will disagree with you simply because they believe in self sacrifice, and they put other people before themselves. To live a life of self sacrifice and follow after the Great Teacher we must abandon chasing after selfish personal things.
No one is damning anyone here. Most people seem to be in support of law enforcement and the laws that protect our citizens from drug dealers.
If you believe in "self sacrifice" then that's great for you. It's nice to have that choice, isn't it??? All that a lot of consenting adults would like is the choice to have an alternative to alcohol. Your personal preference should not be a litmus for the law that the rest of us must live by. Especially when that law was developed for the wrong reasons. Your refusal to look it up for yourself denotes a blind faith in the law which is dangerous to any "democracy" or "free nation". Then again, i guess you like having every aspect of your life controlled, either by Gov't or by God. Great way to avoid any responsibility, eh???
You've met many "drug addicts" who have stolen, etc. So what??? I've met many who don't use who are miserable people who would just as soon throw you under the bus in order for them to get ahead. Just because someone is a theif, it does not make them an addict and vice-versa.
Your comments show that you do not know the difference between cannabis and other "drugs", nor do you realize that just because someone enjoys cannabis or alcohol does not mean that they are not giving of themselves. True, one does not "need" any substance in order to enjoy life, but there is nothing wrong with enjoying it. Ther is a big difference between needing and liking.
Your stance on that comes off as extremely self-righteous and judgmental.
As for the "damning", here is your quote "May God our Father rebuke you with fire and cast you into outer darkness for all eternity in the name of Jesus our Messiah."
Now I may not be a religious fanatic like yourself, but that sounds liek damning words to me.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

New York, NY

#18 Dec 22, 2010
Gregor wrote:
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How is she misinformed? Ever look at the mental health of a 50-60 year old pot smoker? Ever see how lacking they are in common courtesy and decency with people? Most pot heads are just like any other drug addict, self centered, reserved, lacking in social skills, and angry when they don't have their crutch addiction.
Felicia, you keep on doing what you were taught in school, SAY NO TO DRUGS, and yes Marijuana is a drug, it will mess up your life and it's very difficult to quit drugs once you start. It also leads to other drug abuse with adolescents in many cases where if Marijuana had not been introduced to them, they would never have been susceptible to suggestion for other drugs through peers.
Seems you are just as misinformed as she is. But let me answer your question first.
She states that cannabis “messes up yer brain and turns you into a vegetable”. That is simply not the case. Is it “healthy” to smoke? No (though vaporization will negate the harm of smoking). Is it as bad as we were taught in school? Again, no. It’s time for real education regarding cannabis instead of the scare tactics that have done nothing but erode kids’ trust in their authority figures after they find out those figures had been lying to them. If we were upfront and honest in explaining that it is not good for developing brains and bodies but will not kill you (which it won’t), you’d see a greater positive response regarding the rejection of cannabis by kids. After all, even you must admit that the status quo does not work.
Some light reading for you, if you actually want to open up your brain and read some facts rather than just propagandist opinion..
http://www.whitman.edu/biology/Stuproj/YoungB...

Your comments denote your buying in to the stereotyping and the misinformation given by a gov’t with a financial interest in keeping the prohibition alive (ie lobbies from the alcohol, pharma, prisons, assorted law enforcement which “contribute “ to pols coffers and have their ears). Your reference to the gateway theory is proof positive. The only way that cannabis even remotely acts as a “gateway”, is because prohibition allows the criminal element to have a monopoly on the industry. These folks will not only sell to ANYONE who has cash, but will be the force in introducing others to the harder stuff that they are trying to peddle.
As for your 50-60 yr old reference, I’ve seen a lot of people who don’t use anything who have no courtesy and I know cannabis users who are some of the nicest people I’ve ever met. Anecdotal evidence (which may or may not be true) is not a valid reason to keep a prohibition that has done more harm in this country than cannabis ever will.
Gregor

Clermont, FL

#19 Dec 22, 2010
Len, I think you're over analyzing a lot of this. Simple fact is this: A person should be able to live a life happy and free of any substance use or abuse.

As for all the "control" mechanisms, you have an extremely poor view of the spiritual nature of life with our Elohim. People who love Yahweh and honor his commandments have a firm grasp on this. The key Len, is to let go of that resentful personal ego you have and see things from the other person's perspective.

In this case here, we're talking about people that were breaking the law. Bottom line: The law is the law. In the United States of America, active laws are in place against controlled substances for a reason OTHER than what you think. You'd like to think it's all about taxes and government control and whatever other paranoid irrational thought pops into your pot-head brain cell.

The real truth is this: Pot is not needed. Try jogging or walking the beach sometime or doing something out in the sun tomorrow.

Oh, wait, you're in New Jersey slinging hash in some shit house, and banging your boss probably.

On second though, go phuck yourself.

“Good luck with that !!!!”

Since: Dec 10

Yonkers, NY

#20 Dec 22, 2010
Gregor wrote:
Len, I think you're over analyzing a lot of this. Simple fact is this: A person should be able to live a life happy and free of any substance use or abuse.
As for all the "control" mechanisms, you have an extremely poor view of the spiritual nature of life with our Elohim. People who love Yahweh and honor his commandments have a firm grasp on this. The key Len, is to let go of that resentful personal ego you have and see things from the other person's perspective.
In this case here, we're talking about people that were breaking the law. Bottom line: The law is the law. In the United States of America, active laws are in place against controlled substances for a reason OTHER than what you think. You'd like to think it's all about taxes and government control and whatever other paranoid irrational thought pops into your pot-head brain cell.
The real truth is this: Pot is not needed. Try jogging or walking the beach sometime or doing something out in the sun tomorrow.
Oh, wait, you're in New Jersey slinging hash in some shit house, and banging your boss probably.
On second though, go phuck yourself.
Wow Greg, you can't counter reason so you bring religion into it. You could not counter one point that I'd made, so you bring up that it's "against the law". A law that you are either unwilling or unable to look up it's origins.
You are correct, cannabis is NOT needed, but rather enjoyed by millions who are able to lead happy normal lives without it taking over. Too bad you can't understand this. Guess you're one of those who is so miserable that you need to dictate to others how they should live even though they don't hurt anyone.
You've made assumptions regarding who I am, and you've eaten the stereotype with a spoon.
The reasons for cannabis prohibition are available if you can step out of your self-righteous comfort zone long enough to give it a look.
You are a phony of the highest proportions. I know this because you come off with all of your religious diatribe, then you end up making assumptions that you cannot back (kind of like your stance on cannabis) and tell me to go phuck myself. You are a phony and a lemming. Enjoy your blind faith in the law, I just hope that one day the gubment doesn't look to ban something you enjoy because a few influentials desire it.

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