Searching for relatives

Searching for relatives

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Benedikte Gijsbregs

Beringen, Belgium

#1 Jan 22, 2012
Dear,

My name is Benedikte Gijsbregs, I’m teaching Dutch and history at a secondary school in Belgium. I am writing you because of my search for people in your area.

Because of my interests in World War II, I adopted the grave of an American soldier, Donald Ward (+ 16 Nov. 1944), at the military cemetery at Henri-Chapelle in Belgium. I think this is a great way to pay tribute to our liberators, to help ensure that the sacrifices they made ​​will be not forgotten. Since I was assigned to the grave, I searched for more information about Donald because it is my wish to locate relatives and contact them. I recently got the information that he was survived by two daughters who probably grew up in Ecorse, Michigan. Their mother Louise Helen Ward remarried in 1948, her name changed to McMillan and the family moved from Canonsburg to Ecorse. The names of Donald’s daughters are Donna Sue Ward, born 4 November 1940 and Mary Ellen Ward, born 2 January 1944. Their last known address was 58 West Glenwood Ecorse, Michigan.

Is there any possibility that you could do an appeal to trace Donna Sue and Mary Ellen Ward? It would mean a lot to me. Every time I visit the grave of their father I wonder how he lived, what kind of person he was, how he looked like. I would be so happy to have a picture of him, so I can give "my" soldier a face.

I hope my letter gets your attention. I add a summary of relevant information below.I hope my questions will be answered some day. Thank you so much for your time.



Sincerely,



Benedikte Gijsbregs

Vechmaallaan, 51

3870 Heers

Belgium



[email protected] m

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Donald Ward

Army Serial number: 33709983
Unit: K. Company, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Infantry Division
Born: 15 April 1913 Place: State:
Died: 16 Nov 1944 Place: Hürtgen Forrest, Germany
Date of final Burial: at: American Military Cemetery Henri-Chapelle (Belgium)
Location: Plot: G. Row: 13. Grave: 37.
Wife: Louise Helen Ward
Daugthers: Donna Sue Born: 4 November 1940 and Mary Ellen Born: 2 Januari 1944
Address: 501 South Central Avenue, Canonsburg, PA
Grand-Mother: Lena Ward
Last known address: 281 Baird Avenue, Washington, PA
Half-Brother: John Wolfe
Last Known Address: 435½ Baird Avenue, Washington, PA
Wife Remarried:(1948) Louise Helen McMillan
New Address: 58 West Glenwood Ecorse, Michigan
6thGenerationFS

UK

#2 Dec 31, 2013
Benedikte, I hope someone warned you about the troll Howard 555 on your citydata thread. Nicholas Howard Gill born May 20, 1951 currently residing at 718 Third St Rock Hill, SC, formerly of Metarie and Gretna Louisiana. He is a nasty man who stalks people and makes a game out of messing up the threads of non-Americans with lots of nonsense and incorrect facts. He has a criminal record for his desire for little boys. Google "Louisiana v Nicholas Gill" to read one of the kidnapping cases against him. Notice the court-appointed psychiatrist deemed him mentally ill and blames his mother for his fear and loathing of his own homosexuality. So he takes it out on little boys and vulnerable people searching for relatives on the peoplesearch forum.
He pretends to be a search helper but he's a fake. He goes to the links the search helpers post, and copies the info they found. Then he reposts it in the thread with lots of silly remarks and questions, trying to knock the thread off topic and distract you from the real help people like Historyfan are giving you. He thinks this is funny, to hijack the thread. Every time a search helper posts, he runs in and posts after them. He has a mental illness need to keep his name at the top of the forum. Notice none of the search helpers talk to him at all, even though he posts there a dozen times a day. Everyone hates him.

After he makes you think he is a real search helper, he will pretend he "knows someone who can help you" and tells you he must talk to you in private. He tries to get you to talk to only him, in private, by making false promises that he has someone to help you. But help never comes. He just pushes into your private life, looking for an opportunity to use you. He will ask for more and more of your own private information. After leading you on with false promises, he will state asking for money for the search, or he will ask to stay at your home if he visits your country. Of course he will want to know if you have little boys and he will want pictures. He will stalk you and bother you forever if he gets your personal information.
It is best to ignore him. You can go to your profile and put him on "ignore" so you don't have to see his posts at all. or just read them but don't answer. If you get involved with him, he will make you sorry. Everyone else on your thread is a trustworthy person trying to help you. Howard is trying to use you.

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Since: Aug 12

Zwalm, Belgium

#5 Jan 1, 2014
OMG!! I'm so upset by reading this! I thougt he was a nice, friendly man willing to help me. Thnak you for the warning!!!!
Kind regards from Belgium,
Benedikte
dave

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Jan 1, 2014
Read his Janice35 threads to see his hate for his mother and sister. Read his Naeem5 threads to see the extent of his obsessions including possible involvement with his father's death and subsequent cheating his sister out of her share of the estate, and his hopes to get his hands on his mother's estate, too. He even asked how long a diabetic could survive if separated from their insulin supply, then he said his sister was diabetic. I fear for her.

His obsessions are money, hate for women and attraction to young boys. He's so jealous of the search helpers on the forum he stalks them endlessly, trying to get them to leave. He got one person's email address then wrote "do you know where your children are?" with a link to him asking on her city forum what preschools were in her area. Another he did the same thing with a link to him asking what high school in Colorado would be for that searcher's neighborhood after finding she had a teen daughter, and another asking about Charlotte, NC to stalk a person on the Charlotte forum. He uses his other names a lot to do this and then denies it was him, tells the mods someone came to his house and borrowed his computer. Sometimes he has these alternate usernames talk to each other, to make it look like it's not him, but the writing is so distinct you can tell. He doesn't get banned because they only ban for what you post, not off forum stalking and threats. When you ask him about all these posts that come up revealing these things he lies and says it's a hoax. But there is a whole huge number of people who will verify similar problems with him. There's even a petition to have him banned. But there is a whole huge number of people who will verify similar problems with him. There's even a petition to have him banned. Everyone hopes he gets arrested again soon. He does not attempt to be your friend unlesss he wants something. Be very very cautious. Read his posts under his alternative names and you'll see the pattern.

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Zwalm, Belgium

#10 Jan 1, 2014
In that case I'm glad living far away in Belgium! Thanks for the warning!!!
friend

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#12 Jan 3, 2014
The etiquette on the search forum is such that if a respected searcher is working on a thread the other respected searchers leave it alone, so the thread does not become a confusing mess. If someone finds something helpful they send a message directly to the searcher working on it. It's his search and he gets the credit for it.

Howard does not obey that rule and butts into threads to steal credit. Then he brags how great he is while the true searcher who worked so hard for many hours gets ignored. So searchers get tired of not getting thanked for days/weeks of search work and they stop posting. Howard wins. So sad, so many really good searchers have left. He also used to bait them with insults and lies. Now everyone has him on "ignore" so when he tells lies like "the so-called pros use pay sites" it gets no reaction, even though that is a terrible slander accusing the pros of something that is illegal in their profession. The pros at cd only use the same free information on the net as everyone else and on their own time, not the company's. They just are better at it and that makes howard jealous.

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#13 Jan 3, 2014
Historyfan is doing great work for you. When your thread started, I started researching it too. Everything historyfan has told you is what I found too. You can trust him to take good care of your search. The 2 trees you posted about today are the same 2 that historyfan told you about very early in the thread. They are basically the same - one copied the other- and they have some un-sourced claims plus nothing about Donald or his wife, or anyone of that generation.

Howard is taking you off-track by constantly bringing up old stuff on the dead generations. If you want a family tree of the dead generations historyfan can make it for you. Heck, I could do it right here. But you said your goal was to find Donald's living children and to get a picture of him. Those goals are getting lost and no one is working on them because howard has refocused everyone on on the ancestors instead of the descendants. What you need is a searcher who excels at finding adopted children and it's not done by the methods currently on your thread. There is one, but they won't post on a thread howard has hijacked.

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friend

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#14 Jan 3, 2014
And Hopes is not going to find a yearbook picture because she mistakenly believes Donald graduated high school and went to college. The 1940 census clearly states by his own admission he only completed 8th grade. The army enlistment says "2 years of college" because at that time of war when officers were desperately needed, an enlistee could take an exam to test his level of education. Donald tested at the level of 2 yrs college...not enough to make officer but shows an intelligence higher than his actual years of schooling. This is something real researchers know about but dabblers like Hopes and howard do not.

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#15 Jan 3, 2014
Howard also tried to hijack the topic by constantly talking about the boarders listed in the 1940 census. It was very common in 1940 for extended families to live together and for households to take on boarders for extra money. The country was still in the Depression. Times were hard, men left the family home to seek work elsewhere and took rooms in other homes. Trying to track the boarder living with the grandparents of Donald does nothing to help you find Donald's children. He's dead, and he probably knew very little about the family he rented a room from. It's just one of howard's sidetrack tricks. Afterall, he has to keep thinking up dumb things to say so he can pretend he's helping you and remain the last poster on the thread.

He probably went to a PA forum and asked for help and someone from the historical society reponded. He should have brought them to the forum or given you their email address, but instead he keeps control as the middle man. They might give you some general info on that area of PA but they won't have anything helpful. H will just lead you on. Historyfan can give you copies of all the available "documents" as they are all on ancestry.com . H will bring nothing new.

Here is the info you couldn't read on the ancestry trees:
Lena Loray Roupe
Birth: March 9, 1869 (9 Mar 1869)- Greene County (Greene), United States
Death: October 12, 1948 (12 Oct 1948)- Washington, Washington County (Washington), Pennsylvania
Spouse: John Bell Ward

Those dates are not sourced and that is why historyfan didn't post them as fact. Many people have flawed trees with mistakes and unsourced information. Historyfan is just making sure you get the real thruth.

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Seychelles

#16 Jan 3, 2014
lol lol he's doing it again.

4:27 Slingshot starts thread - "Looking for my old boss"
4:31 CSD610 efficiently solves the search
4:37 howard swoops in on his helicopter to give his worthless opinion CSD610' work.

Because being the last poster is sooooo important....

if you're a retard.

How sad to sit refreshing the forum all day just to keep your king-of-the-mountain spot. Most stopped that game by age 7

Since: Aug 12

Zwalm, Belgium

#17 Jan 3, 2014
Well, I have the feeling that I get isolated. I'm lately getting private messages. Sometimes I do not understand his line of thought, of course I'm a bit limited by the language. It is very difficult to determine who to trust. According to him, Americans are not inclined to have phone calls with Europeans??? Don't understand why! Because of my dutch accent? Or because he wants to call???
Last year I had a bad experience with someone who sent me information without clues for which he sent me a bill. But I never agreed with his research work.. Too bad that there are so many dishonest people!

Since: Aug 12

Zwalm, Belgium

#18 Jan 3, 2014
friend wrote:
And Hopes is not going to find a yearbook picture because she mistakenly believes Donald graduated high school and went to college. The 1940 census clearly states by his own admission he only completed 8th grade. The army enlistment says "2 years of college" because at that time of war when officers were desperately needed, an enlistee could take an exam to test his level of education. Donald tested at the level of 2 yrs college...not enough to make officer but shows an intelligence higher than his actual years of schooling. This is something real researchers know about but dabblers like Hopes and howard do not.
Thank you for your explanation!
lol

Seychelles

#19 Jan 3, 2014
He's lying to you. Americans love you and your countrymen for adopting the graves of our soldiers. Americans are not afraid to have phone calls with Europeans. That's ridiculous.

Please don't trust him with your phone number. He's mentally ill. If he says he needs to give it to some other person, tell him to have the person email you.(and check the ip to make sure it didn't come from Rock Hill SC, meaning howard with another fake name)
I know it's confusing for you because he is "acting" nice but that's what con artists and criminals do. How could anyone trust him after reading his kidnapping court case?

You should block him by putting him on ignore, then you wouldn't have to read his strange messages. You are not the first to say that he sends wierd messages. He will bother you a lot if you let him. Some people had to say to him "please stay off my thread and do not send any more messages" It's a shame you have to deal with this when you are trying to do good works.

Since: Aug 12

Zwalm, Belgium

#20 Jan 4, 2014
friend wrote:
Historyfan is doing great work for you. When your thread started, I started researching it too. Everything historyfan has told you is what I found too. You can trust him to take good care of your search. The 2 trees you posted about today are the same 2 that historyfan told you about very early in the thread. They are basically the same - one copied the other- and they have some un-sourced claims plus nothing about Donald or his wife, or anyone of that generation.
Howard is taking you off-track by constantly bringing up old stuff on the dead generations. If you want a family tree of the dead generations historyfan can make it for you. Heck, I could do it right here. But you said your goal was to find Donald's living children and to get a picture of him. Those goals are getting lost and no one is working on them because howard has refocused everyone on on the ancestors instead of the descendants. What you need is a searcher who excels at finding adopted children and it's not done by the methods currently on your thread. There is one, but they won't post on a thread howard has hijacked.
Do you think it is a good idea that I send a letter about all this to an administrator of City-data? I just want a fair chance to get answers. My intentions are good. My dedication to his grave is sincere and unselfish.
friend

AOL

#21 Jan 4, 2014
I know of several people who complained and the mod said he hadn't broken forum rules and they can't ban someone for being annoying or writing incorrect advice or everyone would be banned. He's smart enought to use private messaging, email and phone to stalk and threaten people, which is out of the forum's control. They will tell you to ask him to leave you alone, or put him on ignore. They don't want to lose members because they need large numbers to entice advertisors.
I think he targets foreigners because they can't go to the police and complain. They would be told "He's an ocean away. Just delete his emails."

I know of 3 people who the mod told "You are the only one to complain about him." They compared notes and found they were all given the same excuse. Howard had posts here at topix bragging about that mod being his good friend and protecting him. That's why people left the forum, because the forum did nothing to stop him and he was ruining the search threads. They only ban people who post against their political beliefs on the political forum, or who say bad things about a city on any of the city forums. Howard stays within the forum rules so they don't care. He used a fake username to threaten one lady in a direct message and the mod told her "He said it wasn't him, so we can't prove it." The only thing that works is warning people to watch out for him.

Howard even tried to stop people from warning each other and Admin told him people could say anything in private they wanted to, so the same rule that protects his lies also protects those who reveal them. That thread is on the About the Forum forum. Howard was mad a member called him a criminal in a private conversation with another member. But Admin already had the documentation that Howard really is a convicted criminal, and the conversation between 2 members was in private and neither of them was complaining about it. It is believed Howard had hacked in to the member's profile and read their private messages, so if he persued it he would further implicate himself.

If you re-read your thread, you will see he just repeats info the others find, and makes distracting comments that have nothing to do with finding living relatives or a picture. Once you see that, it's easier to just discount his posts and ignore him. If he gets scarey in direct messages, then ask him to leave you alone and report him if he doesn't.

Read other threads on the search forum and you will see good people solving searches. Read his posts and you see a lot of nonsense and a person who has never solved anything by himself. He just follows the searchers around with his long, babbling posts and trys to take credit for their work. Which isn't against the forum rules.
WishIcouldHelp

Little Rock, AR

#22 Jan 19, 2014
Benedikte, I was sorry to read that both girls have passed on, and that only Mary Ellen was Donald's child. Since she was an infant when adopted out, I doubt she was given a picture of her father. I also don't think relatives adopted her because all Donald had was his grandparents and his grandfather was dead before Donald and his grandmother was gravely ill. Louisa didn't have anyone, either. I think you were unfortunate to get a soldier with such circumstances, so little family and no one who knew him or remembers. But that is exactly what is so beautiful about the adopt-a-grave program- Someone to care. You are a very good person to do what you do.

I'm also sorry you have to deal with the weirdo Howard and his weird sabotage and attacks on other members. Notice when you post he has to post twice, in hopes your post will go unnoticed by other searchers because when they come to the forum they see his name and many won't open a thread showing his name. It is sad, but he has created so much animosity in his quest to destroy the forum. We just have to keep reminding ourselves he is mentally ill and all we can do is ignore him.

I was wondering if you have any information about Debbie. Did you mean she is Mary Ellen's grandchild, or Donald's grandchild and Mary Ellen's daughter? It would help to have an idea of her age. Is your source reliable? I searched and couldn't find an obit for Mary Ellen, but there is a member, ElizNJ, who is very good at finding obits so if there is one out there, she will find it. You could also email the funeral homes in the area and ask if they handled Mary's arrangements and if they have any information they could share. If you could get some details for Debbie, maybe MrBillM could find her. He's really good at finding living people. If Debbie exists, she may be the only person alive who is related to Donald.
I'm kind of shocked the military didn't have a picture in their files. I thought they photographed each soldier.

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