Since: Jun 08

Ecorse

#1869 Jun 18, 2008
Another very good goalie was Bruce Vida, who was also a very good baseball pitcher. He recieved a few baseball schollarships from Division II schools and was a late round draft choice fo the Tigers. He passed away a few years ago. He used to take tolls on the pay bridge to Grosse Ile.
ForeLife

Detroit, MI

#1871 Jun 19, 2008
Juice

Lloyd Fleury was indeed the BEST coach ever. Unfortunately he passed away a year or so ago. May he rest in peace. He influenced many people's lives and he is greatly missed.
ForeLife

Detroit, MI

#1872 Jun 19, 2008
Zukonik wrote:
TO FROGGIE13: Yes, you're right there were quite a few Ecorse Hockey players who could have played in college but didn't. Here's a few that did and few that could have:
EHS Graduates and (year of graduation)
Chuck Swearingen (66) Western Micigan
Bill Swearingen (67) Ohio State
Les Swearingen (70) Ohio State (National Championship Team too)
Robert "Icky" Swearingen may have also played, but I'm nor sure. Their Dad Conrad was instrumental in getting the OSU Hockey Coach, Harry Neal, to look at alot of Ecorse High players.
Harry Tsermengas (68) Ohio State
Bob Hellar (67) Western Michigan (I think or football?)
Bob Cress (68) Ohio state only one year as a freshman)
Greg Cuingan (72) Michigan State University.
Others who could have played in college: Dave Andring (68) had an invitation to try out for U.S. Olympics Team, but got his high school sweeatheart, Carol Pittman, pregnant and had to get a job to support her and the baby. Jude Cummings (72) I think he may have played at the Junior B level with Big D. Billy Hasler ( Lincoln Parker, but played in the Ecorse Hockey Assocation for years.) Billy won a Junior B National Championship playing for Big D and so did Mickey Enright. Mick also had a try out for the Toronto Marlboros Junior A's but didn't like living away from home, he ended up playing for Detroit Jr. Red Wings, at the Junior A level with Mark and Marty Howe. Greg Lujan (72) didn't have the grades for college or the desire. Billy Wheeler, a black kid, whom I told had the ability may have played in college. Billy Wisenstein had the ability. I'm sure there are alot more, but these are the ones that I either played with or against at one time or another, or were close to my age.
TO BONZ: I never said I was a "great" player, as you pointed out, but I must have been a decent one. I played on all the travel teams at the PeeWee and Bantam levels and was also asked to play at the Midget level. I chose EHS Varsity instead because Harry Tsermengas asked me to try out. I wasn't a great stick handler or scorer but I always played on the penalty kills lines because of my speed and skating ability, even as a freshman.
Alot of good Ecorse players chose not to play Varsity Hockey after John Ghindia stopped coaching the team (He played quarterback for U of M) because Ron Rymars took over. Mr. Rymars, bless his heart, really didn't know the game, therefore never gained the respect of the players. My Senior year Lloyd Fleury helped out as the unofficial Asst. Coach and that helped the team out tremendously. Lloyd Fleury as the long time Midget coach. NUF SAID......
Not Greg Lujan, RICHARD Lujan
froggie13

Riverview, MI

#1873 Jun 20, 2008
I ran into harold machalis last year. his daughter was having a baby the same time mine was and reounized him when he came into the waiting room. he looks good and still lives around here, still in education. I haven't seen Lloyd since the mid 1990's. he was at an oldtimer's game in Lincoln Park, I bs'ed with him for a while. He was my manager and Hasek was the head coach when I played for great lakes midgets. He use to pick up the bill when he took the team to Carter's after a tough game. Man i loved those greasy hamburgers and a malt.

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Since: Jun 08

Dearborn

#1874 Jun 20, 2008
I remember all those guys, some were good, and some thought they were good, you know who you are! i played with R.lujan, J.cummings,F. marcott, d.reno, j.stone, G.hotham, J.serazin, little Ernie Hernandez, Ed koloran was our goalie'S for EHS, 71,72,NAMING A FEW. very good team...
ForeLife

Detroit, MI

#1877 Jun 20, 2008
j short wrote:
I remember all those guys, some were good, and some thought they were good, you know who you are! i played with R.lujan, J.cummings,F. marcott, d.reno, j.stone, G.hotham, J.serazin, little Ernie Hernandez, Ed koloran was our goalie'S for EHS, 71,72,NAMING A FEW. very good team...
You rock! Those was sum awesome hockey playa's! 71-72 EHS hockey wuz da best! An u right, some wuz good some maybe not but one thang fo sho thay all kicked a$$ an I nose who u are to! Nice to here from u! An u can not forget ken barber wuz a goaly to!
Earth

Visalia, CA

#1878 Jun 20, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
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You are right on the money. I'll tell him. He'll be really happy to hear that. Not sure if you know this, but he has a pretty serious disability now. I know he was quite touched when he got that card. Not sure if you knew but his dad also died suddenly only 1 year after his mom.
HIs and my families have both been through a lot the last few years.
I hadn't heard his dad also passed away. Some news travels fast, some not at all. My condolences.

"...a pretty serious disability..."

xxxgobluexxx@yahoo.com <-- Could you go into more detail, please?

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Since: Jun 08

Dearborn

#1879 Jun 20, 2008
both barbers were goalies, pretty dam good, you look at the ice rink now, and it looks like a steel factory thats to bad, today's teens don't know what a goood time we had between them four walls,that was our down time, away from our mom and dad, you could just be your self, with all your buddies,and i know who you are too, hehehe!!! ps. e-mail me need your e-mail address, j short.
ForeLife

Detroit, MI

#1881 Jun 20, 2008
dude! u no who I is? u so smart! no wonder u play'd on such a good team! Go Red Raiders! Goin outta town for a coupla dayz but should return beginnin of da week, mon or tues
email addy be: <4liferondacoast@gmail.com >
u right, da rink wuz our home away from home. Have urself a kickin weekend! Gimme a holla and I will holla back when I get back in town Stay safe my bro!

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#1882 Jun 20, 2008
j short wrote:
both barbers were goalies, pretty dam good, you look at the ice rink now, and it looks like a steel factory thats to bad, today's teens don't know what a goood time we had between them four walls,that was our down time, away from our mom and dad, you could just be your self, with all your buddies,and i know who you are too, hehehe!!! ps. e-mail me need your e-mail address, j short.
Mike Miller too. He could put the hurt on you good.
Cherry Grove Girl

Idaho Springs, CO

#1883 Jun 21, 2008
Some may be interested in Kathy Covert's book "Ecorse Echoes: The Story of the Oldest Downriver Community". It's a spiral-bound volume of nearly 250 pages full of Ecorse history. I had not know the origin of the name Ecorse until I bought the book. Nor had I known that around the turn of the last century, Ecorse was considered a summer resort and was called "The Little Venice of the West End". There are lots of pictures from long ago and many from the time I spent growing up in Ecorse. I've read the entire book over the last few months and have thoroughly enjoyed it. When I bought the book a couple of years ago it was somewhere around $25, including shipping to Colorado. If you're interested, e-mail History@myexcel.com.
JUICE

Wixom, MI

#1884 Jun 22, 2008
ForeLife wrote:
Juice
Lloyd Fleury was indeed the BEST coach ever. Unfortunately he passed away a year or so ago. May he rest in peace. He influenced many people's l ives and he is greatly missed.
Thanks ForeLife, May Lloyd rest in peace. This goes back a ways but did anyone ever go out to Looney Rooney's on Grosse Isl.(sp?) I'm sure you did Lee !
ForeLife

Detroit, MI

#1885 Jun 23, 2008
I remember Looney Rooneys but I was jus a lil kid some older couzins took me, I was scared!!!
JUICE

AOL

#1886 Jun 23, 2008
ForeLife wrote:
I remember Looney Rooneys but I was jus a lil kid some older couzins took me, I was scared!!!
I recall one time we actually talked to the guy out there. There were rumors that he had a crazy brother chained up in the basement LOL. Alot of kids came out there from all over downriver. It was quite the destination!
Young Coaster

Holland, MI

#1887 Jun 23, 2008
Posted this once and it didn't show up so I am trying again..
Reading many of these posts bring back some fond memories. Although I am a bit younger, graduated in '87, I still can relate to much of what has been said. The steak house, Frankies. I don't think anyone has mentioned the old bowling alley down by the park. I remember being very young and going there with my parents for their league.
I had all older siblings so I know many of these names as well.
For those mentioning Lovelands,'Grandma' Loveland just passed away last year. Her one son, Mark, does own two Hallmark stores in the area though--Lincoln Park and Brownstown. Maybe more now.
It was sad to hear of Harry White, he was a very nice man who did always have time to chat--even with a teenager.
I remember the old Saint Francis festivals too. I had TONS of 12"x12" mirrors with beer brands and rock band names on them that I had won.
I think I was of the final generation of Ecorse's heyday. Only people from the city could understand what a great little city it was.
Thanks for the memories...
ForeLife

Detroit, MI

#1888 Jun 24, 2008
Young Coaster wrote:
Posted this once and it didn't show up so I am trying again..
Reading many of these posts bring back some fond memories. Although I am a bit younger, graduated in '87, I still can relate to much of what has been said. The steak house, Frankies. I don't think anyone has mentioned the old bowling alley down by the park. I remember being very young and going there with my parents for their league.
I had all older siblings so I know many of these names as well.
For those mentioning Lovelands,'Grandma' Loveland just passed away last year. Her one son, Mark, does own two Hallmark stores in the area though--Lincoln Park and Brownstown. Maybe more now.
It was sad to hear of Harry White, he was a very nice man who did always have time to chat--even with a teenager.
I remember the old Saint Francis festivals too. I had TONS of 12"x12" mirrors with beer brands and rock band names on them that I had won.
I think I was of the final generation of Ecorse's heyday. Only people from the city could understand what a great little city it was.
Thanks for the memories...
So sorry to hear about Grandma Loveland. Even tho you are younger, you are welcome to share your memories here we hope to hear more from you
Julie t

United States

#1889 Jun 24, 2008
You all have brought back such wonderful memories of the coast. It is really awesome to hear all your stories. OMG those were truly the days. I first moved to Ecorse back in the early 60's. I lived with my grand parents on High st. I met alot of my Uncle Ron's friends back then. Paud Zukonik, Froggie and Bruce Veda. Names I would have never expected to ever hear of again. I had a family reunion at my home a few years ago. Almost 200 people were there. We all shared Ecorse stories from back in the day. There are still alot of Pongracz's in Ecorse.
Lee

AOL

#1890 Jun 27, 2008
Julie t wrote:
You all have brought back such wonderful memories of the coast. It is really awesome to hear all your stories. OMG those were truly the days. I first moved to Ecorse back in the early 60's. I lived with my grand parents on High st. I met alot of my Uncle Ron's friends back then. Paud Zukonik, Froggie and Bruce Veda. Names I would have never expected to ever hear of again. I had a family reunion at my home a few years ago. Almost 200 people were there. We all shared Ecorse stories from back in the day. There are still alot of Pongracz's in Ecorse.
hi julie :) i supose im a bit older than you are
i moved to mich in 1951 i believe it was ..
someone said that jullius ( bud pongracz ) had passed away serveral years ago , i tryed looking him up obit'sfor him and i could find a julius pongracz deceased that was born in 1913 ,, i don't mean to doubt evr who said bud had died but i got to wondering , if it was buds dad maybe ?
jullius ( bud , was about the same age as i am and in 1960 he would have been about 20 yr's old .) the reason i'm so curious about him is , i saw a picture on the ship yards web site at great lakes engineering celebration i belive the pucture was taken in 2005 . the picture looked so much like bud . he and i were pretty good friends .( i thought maybe you might know if it]]
might've been julius ( buds dad )instead of him died ?-i don't recall seeing you on here before but it is nice to hear from you . lee former ecorse resident
Julie t

United States

#1891 Jun 27, 2008
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
hi julie :) i supose im a bit older than you are
i moved to mich in 1951 i believe it was ..
someone said that jullius ( bud pongracz ) had passed away serveral years ago , i tryed looking him up obit'sfor him and i could find a julius pongracz deceased that was born in 1913 ,, i don't mean to doubt evr who said bud had died but i got to wondering , if it was buds dad maybe ?
jullius ( bud , was about the same age as i am and in 1960 he would have been about 20 yr's old .) the reason i'm so curious about him is , i saw a picture on the ship yards web site at great lakes engineering celebration i belive the pucture was taken in 2005 . the picture looked so much like bud . he and i were pretty good friends .( i thought maybe you might know if it]]
might've been julius ( buds dad )instead of him died ?-i don't recall seeing you on here before but it is nice to hear from you . lee former ecorse resident
Hi Lee, Julius (Bud) Pongracz was my dad and yes he pass away 20 years ago this week. God rest his soul. He was only 48 yrs. old. He died from alcolhol poisoning in the park next to Carters. He really loved that river. His father(Julius senior)passed away 21 years ago. I know my dad worked at the ship yard but I don't remember anyone he worked with. I am really glad you responded. After all these years it was really nice to hear from someone who new my dad. He was a good person with a bad habit. Every now and then I take a ride down there just to have a burger at Carters. It's hard to believe the burgers still taste the same.
Lee

AOL

#1892 Jun 27, 2008
Julie t wrote:
<quoted text> Hi Lee, Julius (Bud) Pongracz was my dad and yes he pass away 20 years ago this week. God rest his soul. He was only 48 yrs. old. He died from alcolhol poisoning in the park next to Carters. He really loved that river. His father(Julius senior)passed away 21 years ago. I know my dad worked at the ship yard but I don't remember anyone he worked with. I am really glad you responded. After all these years it was really nice to hear from someone who new my dad. He was a good person with a bad habit. Every now and then I take a ride down there just to have a burger at Carters. It's hard to believe the burgers still taste the same.
JULLIE I AM SORRY TO HEAR YOUR DAD PASSED AWAY .
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW OFTEN I HAVE THOUGHT OF BUD ,
I WORKED ALONG SIDE OF BUD ON THE EDMUND FITZGERALD AND I THINK AT LEAST ONE MORE SHIP'S WE BUILT . I USE TO GIVE BUD A RIDE TO WORK AND BACK, HE LIVED IN WYANDOTTE AT THAT TIME . I REMEMBER WHEN MY FIRST BORN SON WAS BORN, I STOPED AT BUD'S HOUSE AND GAVE HIM AN IT'S A BOY CIGAR , THERE WAS A PARTY GOING ON AND I WAS PRETTY DRUNK AND when i went to the bath room, i fell in the bath tub full of dirty diappers .i don't know which kid was a baby at that time but
it was sept - 13 th 1959 . i liked your dad a lot julie it saddenens me to know he is gone but we have his memories . there is a web site for the ship yard where we worked ( i hope this link will work for you ? www.s.s.edmundfitzgerald.com --there are lots of story's here and at the top of the page on the left is a web link click there and there are stories ,video' and lots of stuff there . i guess i wrote like maybe 5 or 6 myself .my stories say either a ship yard workers memories or loge < what everyone called me loge.
i wrote down the names of the workers i recall , bud his name also . i hope you dont mind . lee ( loge ..(ps ) the web page has a link to my story's number 132 ( i have 2 pics of me on the pages ) one as i looked then and now .

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