Ecorse -- REMEMBER WHEN ....
lee

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#1764 May 20, 2008
MelissaJ377 wrote:
Hi lee
wasnt the name of the draftting teacher Mr Braun
I member seeing him in the hallway of the new building across from the cafetaria member those lunches there was a lot of pongracz kids wasnt there I think some are still around the city too
the name im not sure braun might've been ? but i do remember he was kinda short and like to take this triangle thing and make 3 notes on it and say , somthing like ( nbc ) i belive it was .(ps ) bud pongratz was the beat nick type with goatee and swaggered . he was kinda wild but him and i got along pretty well except once we had a few word's ,then we were cool .last i heard of bud was him and another guy suposed to robbed a store and went to prison ( so i heard.)
lee

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#1765 May 20, 2008
JUICE wrote:
Lee, does the name Eugene Lukarellie(sp?) mean anything to you ? Don't know if he was the drafting teacher when you were at EHS, but he was there the 8 years after you, when I there. I remember Mr. Luke could swing a MEAN paddle lol.
juice as i said i am not sure of the dude's name but i felt so sorry for this kid he beat so bad i couldn't believe it hardly . all i remember about him other than the beating is he was short ( maybe bit balding )
JUICE

New Haven, MI

#1766 May 21, 2008
Mr Luke had a full head of hair as I remember. But one distingushing trait, the guy was missing a thumb on one hand. He was really a likable, witty guy.
Paud Zukonik

Houston, TX

#1767 May 21, 2008
I've posted on this site in the past but not for some time. Those that want to keep the theme "Ecorse...Remember When" have the right attitude. Recent posts have jogged my memory of some names and places I had forgotten about such as. The Silver Rail, Clarence and Harold's, etc. The gas station on the corner of Southfield and High Street was owned by Red Monks. The Monks lived on Ridge street and most of them went to SFX, Ken Marty, Marylou and I think Betsy. Ken Monks later became a cop on the Ecorse Police Dept. Some may recall my Dad, Albert "Zuke" Zukonik, he was a motorcycle cop and retired as Chief of Police He went on to be a City Councilman and Mayor of Ecorse. He defeated Richard "Dick" Manning who was also a teacher at EHS. My Dad died while in office when he was up for re-election.

Dave's Pool room on Southfield was my choice to hang out with guys like Harry and Billy Tsermengas, Tom and John Enright Bob and Dennis Paterson, Teddy and Lanny Elswick, Roger Forney, Dave Andring, Frenchie, Big "O" Oscar, Frankie's had the best pizza, and was owned by Joe Caparotta. His son Anthony graduated in 68' with my brother Ed at EHS. Cuingan's had the best perch and fried shrimp. I worked there as a Valet parking attendant at the age of 15 without a driver's license. That could only happen in Ecorse where cops would look the other way at harmless stuff. I was a busboy there too, they served all the workers a nightly meal called "The Hobo" because it was free for the hired help. Old man Michael Cuingan turned the business over to his 2 sons, Virgil and Eli Cuingan. Eli was Mayor at one time. His son Michael is a Judge in Ecorse. We play varsity hockey together. Their was Pomegracz's Market on High Street down from the Schaeffer Garage Door factory acoss from the Muni where I'd but a hot pepper cheese sandwich with mustard for dime for my lunch while attending grade school at SFX. There was Moore's hamburgers near the River Rouge border that had what had to be one of the 1st drive up windows. Harry T. John Tank, Ronny Pomgracz and I got caught drivng off without paying because we still had on hockey uniforms from an early morning practice, duh? We had to go back to the ice rink beg for enough money to go and make restitution and apologize to the Manager. Well that enough for now. Later....
Disgusted

Flushing, MI

#1768 May 21, 2008
lee wrote:
hi ecorse ,i am probably one of the older students from ecorse high so-i don't recall a lot od students name or a lotta teachers but mr buss
gym and one teacher that taught mechanical art's
i remember well . buss and his big paddle also in mechanical drawing class was bad to beat on your bee hind lol ( the dude in gym buss? he only hit me once but this poor guy in the mechanical arts or ( drafting classs he liked to beat a kid to death once ) i was like thinking he is never going to beat me like that .
as i said im old but maybe someone from one of the other schools in ecorse might know bud ( julius pongratz ) i worked with him at the ship yards for i guess two maybe 3 yrs . gee where did time go lol. it seems only a short time since i was a teenager at ecorse !
Lee: My aunt graduated in 1965 and I always remembered her saying that while she was in high school Stevie Wonder once played a concert there in the gym. Do you remember that?
ICE RINK GIRL

Plymouth, MI

#1769 May 22, 2008
Paud Zukonik wrote:
I've posted on this site in the past but not for some time. Those that want to keep the theme "Ecorse...Remember When" have the right attitude. Recent posts have jogged my memory of some names and places I had forgotten about such as. The Silver Rail, Clarence and Harold's, etc. The gas station on the corner of Southfield and High Street was owned by Red Monks. The Monks lived on Ridge street and most of them went to SFX, Ken Marty, Marylou and I think Betsy. Ken Monks later became a cop on the Ecorse Police Dept. Some may recall my Dad, Albert "Zuke" Zukonik, he was a motorcycle cop and retired as Chief of Police He went on to be a City Councilman and Mayor of Ecorse. He defeated Richard "Dick" Manning who was also a teacher at EHS. My Dad died while in office when he was up for re-election.
Dave's Pool room on Southfield was my choice to hang out with guys like Harry and Billy Tsermengas, Tom and John Enright Bob and Dennis Paterson, Teddy and Lanny Elswick, Roger Forney, Dave Andring, Frenchie, Big "O" Oscar, Frankie's had the best pizza, and was owned by Joe Caparotta. His son Anthony graduated in 68' with my brother Ed at EHS. Cuingan's had the best perch and fried shrimp. I worked there as a Valet parking attendant at the age of 15 without a driver's license. That could only happen in Ecorse where cops would look the other way at harmless stuff. I was a busboy there too, they served all the workers a nightly meal called "The Hobo" because it was free for the hired help. Old man Michael Cuingan turned the business over to his 2 sons, Virgil and Eli Cuingan. Eli was Mayor at one time. His son Michael is a Judge in Ecorse. We play varsity hockey together. Their was Pomegracz's Market on High Street down from the Schaeffer Garage Door factory acoss from the Muni where I'd but a hot pepper cheese sandwich with mustard for dime for my lunch while attending grade school at SFX. There was Moore's hamburgers near the River Rouge border that had what had to be one of the 1st drive up windows. Harry T. John Tank, Ronny Pomgracz and I got caught drivng off without paying because we still had on hockey uniforms from an early morning practice, duh? We had to go back to the ice rink beg for enough money to go and make restitution and apologize to the Manager. Well that enough for now. Later....
I Definitely agree, it is so nice remembering all the fun times growing up here, I am still here and like everything else in life, change comes, but you still have your memories and I am thankful that we have this little forum to discuss the old times, I do remember your Dad and most of the people on your list, keep up the good/positive posts!
Zukonik

Houston, TX

#1770 May 22, 2008
Thank for the complement. If you remember my Dad and you're using the Ice Rink Girl as your log on name we may have held hands and skated together! ;-) Some of fondest memories of "The Coast" were free skating til 9:00 at night atthe outdor rink and asking girls to skate with me. Just holding hands at the ripe old age of 12 or 13 was exciting yet so innocent. It's too bad our youth have all but lost that innocence. What year did you graduate?
lee

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#1771 May 22, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
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Lee: My aunt graduated in 1965 and I always remembered her saying that while she was in high school Stevie Wonder once played a concert there in the gym. Do you remember that?
no i am sorry i wasn't there but i wish i could've
been . i do remember the play rehearsals in music class and how i didn't want to be in it lol --we\
sang about little jimmy brown and that lazy old sun don't do nothing but roll around heaven all day ( those two i remember well :)
ICE RINK GIRL

Plymouth, MI

#1772 May 23, 2008
Zukonik wrote:
Thank for the complement. If you remember my Dad and you're using the Ice Rink Girl as your log on name we may have held hands and skated together! ;-) Some of fondest memories of "The Coast" were free skating til 9:00 at night atthe outdor rink and asking girls to skate with me. Just holding hands at the ripe old age of 12 or 13 was exciting yet so innocent. It's too bad our youth have all but lost that innocence. What year did you graduate?
I graduated in 1976 so I am a little bit younger, you used to hang out with my cousin Paul Pasco, so I remember alot of those names but really didnt know them, but still like hearing all the old stories, makes you wonder what happened to everyone, and how the years flew by!
MelissaJ377

Detroit, MI

#1773 May 23, 2008
welcome back old-timer zukonik it is nice to read your postings
BLU EYES

Dearborn Heights, MI

#1774 May 23, 2008
Just thought I would let Lee know that Bud Pongracz died many years ago. He was a nice guy but had a drinking problem and that is what finally took him.
JUICE

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#1775 May 23, 2008
Hey Pauddy,we lived two houses apart. Your family on the corner, Cerasuolo's in the little house next door, Williams' next to them and then my house. Frysingers lived accross the street from you. I am a number of years older than you, but do rember your name.
lee

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#1776 May 23, 2008
BLU EYES wrote:
Just thought I would let Lee know that Bud Pongracz died many years ago. He was a nice guy but had a drinking problem and that is what finally took him.
thanks blu eyes for the info , im sorry to hear Bud pongracz died . he was a nice guy ,we worked together at
the ship yard for glew and he rode too and from work with me and we did use to party pretty hard.
but i gave it up at about the age of 25 .
THANKS AGAIN and i hope you folks keep up the memories of Ecorse and the good old days
. Lee
Zukonik

Houston, TX

#1777 May 24, 2008
I graduated in 1976 so I am a little bit younger, you used to hang out with my cousin Paul Pasco, so I remember alot of those names but really didnt know them, but still like hearing all the old stories, makes you wonder what happened to everyone, and how the years flew by!

To ICE RINK GIRL: Yes, your cousin Paul Pasco and I hung around together along with Tim Miller and Don Mobley. Paul and don were a year older than us class of 70' Tim and I class of 71'. I'm Godfather to Paul's son Ryan, but haven't seen him in years. i got tired of going back to MI. and visiting everyone and no one visiting me. Their loss I Live in Rockwall, Texas on the eastern shore of Lake Ray Hubbard. I didn't know Paul had a cousin class of 76', now that's going to bug me who you are.

Hey Pauddy,we lived two houses apart. Your family on the corner, Cerasuolo's in the little house next door, Williams' next to them and then my house. Frysingers lived accross the street from you. I am a number of years older than you, but do remember your name.

To Juice:I can't remember your name right now but it will come to me. You were about the same age as Sam Cerasuolo and were an only child (I think) and you had a nice car too. I thinjk I helped you wax it one time. Either you or your Dad worked at Great Lakes Steel (again I think).
Zukonik

Houston, TX

#1778 May 24, 2008
Hey Pauddy,we lived two houses apart. Your family on the corner, Cerasuolo's in the little house next door, Williams' next to them and then my house. Frysingers lived accross the street from you. I am a number of years older than you, but do rember your name.

To Juice: Okay I had to cheat! I called my brother Ed, and got the scoop on you. You had a younger sister but there was quite an age difference between you two. And my brother said you used to drive your Dad's car. Your initials are D.P. Right?
JUICE

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#1779 May 24, 2008
Pauddy right you are !! Small world and great memories back in time. After I graduated in 65 I went away to school. I was only around the coast the next four summers. I did work at GLS a couple of those summers. Spent the money I WAS EARNING for school, on socializing until I went back to school each following fall LOL. I had great parents. My little sis also lives in that Lone Star State. She's in Flowermound between Dallas & FortWorth and a little north. Did Ed graduate from SFX ?
Paud Zukonik

Fort Worth, TX

#1780 May 24, 2008
Juice, I also remember your parents as two very fine people, very kind and warm. As you know, Flower Mound is northwest of Dallas. For some reason my post says I'm fron Houston, but I'm not. I live in Rockwall, Texas 25 miles east of Dallas. I'm sure you remember Marsha and Bob Cress. i think Marsha was in your class of 65'. Anyway Bob lives in Flower mound and works for American Airlines. We played varsity hockey together he was a senior while I was a freshman. He has a Kentucky Derby party every year and sometimes some the guys from Ecorse come down for it. Teddy Elswick, Dave Marcott, etc.

No my brother Ed left SFX in the 10 grade and graduated from EHS in 68'. He retired from the Ecorse Fire Dept. after 26 years at the rank of Captain at the age of 46. He lives on Barnes Lake north of Lapeer with his wife the former Linda Wanat who lived on Woodward. Waht about you, work, family etc. Do you ever come to TX to see your sister? How'd she wind up here?
LEE

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#1781 May 25, 2008
I Wonder if anyone remember's TERRY Buckner,
his brother Ronny, OR BILLY Wallace from Ecorse ?
WE ALL LIVED ON WEST WOODWARD for a few years .
and attended Ecorse high school.
BILLY WALLACE we called him Cowboy .
i want to wish everyone a happy memorial day . lee
WAY OUT WEST

Englewood, CO

#1782 May 26, 2008
I remember a Brian Buckner who lived on w.westfield. I lived on both woodward and westfield. I think they were southern and I remember his mom use to make him play/take piano lessons
LEE

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#1783 May 26, 2008
WAY OUT WEST wrote:
I remember a Brian Buckner who lived on w.westfield. I lived on both woodward and westfield. I think they were southern and I remember his mom use to make him play/take piano lessons
i don't recall the name brian but i do know terry and ronny were from the south as was i, i moved to michigan when i was about 12 .. and i lived on
west woodward growing up . we lived the third house from the end of w woodward near the railroad .

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