Amish in outhouse dispute appeal

There are 28 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jul 8, 2008, titled Amish in outhouse dispute appeal. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Two Amish farmers who said their religious convictions prevented them from disposing of outhouse waste according to state sewage laws appealed their jail sentences.

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scoobydooby

Novato, CA

#1 Jul 8, 2008
why must the outside world harass these people??? let them live their lives in their own way. they are not harming anyone, in fact, they do not believe in war, violence of any sort.they forgive those who do them harm. let't let them alone & try to learn from them.
Allentownian

Allentown, PA

#2 Jul 8, 2008
scoobydooby wrote:
why must the outside world harass these people??? let them live their lives in their own way. they are not harming anyone, in fact, they do not believe in war, violence of any sort.they forgive those who do them harm. let't let them alone & try to learn from them.
I agree, let the Amish alone on such a silly issue.
Placing the blame

Allentown, PA

#4 Jul 8, 2008
We place chemicals, animal crap, and everything else on our farm lands, why can't they dump their own, like they have been doing forever?
Lissa

Line Lexington, PA

#5 Jul 8, 2008
People should just leave them be, if we all lived the way they did this world would not be so violent! These people raise their children well, teach them they have to work for their living and teach them religious teachings of the Bible. I would take their way of living any day.
two turdy two

Easton, PA

#6 Jul 8, 2008
One thing is for sure, you won't find the same stuff in the Amish childrens waste like you would a typical American kids waste! I'd bet my next pay check on that one.
Jason in Bucks

Dallas, PA

#7 Jul 8, 2008
Cut us a break. Leave these people alone. It is a religious conviction, and we all including the Catholic only wish they could be as religious as these people are. I many years ago had the opportunity to spend 2 days with an Amish family. One of which was a Barn Raising and this was the most moving and breathing taking experience of my life. This is truly the power of god and men at work. Who cares if they us an outhouse. Catholics are not supposed to use condoms either should be lock them up if they do. Cut is a break. Drop the charges and let these men go for crying out loud.
Stozlfus

Allentown, PA

#8 Jul 8, 2008
vas es los....

Since: Mar 07

Allentown, PA

#9 Jul 8, 2008
What if everyone in Allentown started dumping buckets of crap on their lawn?

I would LOVE not to have to pay my sewer bill every six months!

We have laws for a reason.

The Amish make more money than God, and they wont even pay for their own lawyer. WHO HIRED THE LAWYER in the first place? He's not a Pubilc Defender!

"Community Service" violates their religion? What are they, Muslims?

I'm sick of all these Amish Thugs and Gangsta's roaming free and doing whatever they want. Time to crack down already
Lola

Bethlehem, PA

#10 Jul 8, 2008
"Community Service" violates their religion. "Hiring a lawyer violates their religion" (but it's ok if someone else pays for the lawyer). Their religion allows them to have a lawyer...they just can't pay them.(Please...someone show me that one in the Bible!)
Where are these "religious rules" coming from? Are they man made rules vs rules from God?
I'm not looking to harrass any particular person or religious group. But society has rules for a reason. If the Amish do not want contact with the outside world...they need to move to a deserted island.
Oh...and perhaps they should not sell their produce to the outside world also.

“You call THIS civilization??”

Since: Mar 07

Orefield, PA

#11 Jul 8, 2008
I don't want the Amish hassled for no good reason, they are good people, I believe. They help one another, and their non-Amish neighbors.

But as someone who has read through the Bible a few times I confess to be a bit puzzled as to where in there they are basing some of their feelings on.

Of course, they do not owe ME an explanation for their beliefs. The government offers freedom of religion across the board.
dutchie

AOL

#12 Jul 8, 2008
lets go back to the old days when neighbors had problems they resolved them on there own without municipal involvement under the name of public safety. Let us live our without governmental interference. Give us a break, get out of our lives with your bull crap.
Outside World

United States

#13 Jul 8, 2008
Lola wrote:
I'm not looking to harrass any particular person or religious group.
Yes you are and it comes across rather brazenly.

Here's an idea, if you don't want the Amish selling to the outside world, fine the outside world for buying their goods.

Leave them alone. What's next? Shooting up their school children?
Miregirl

Wilkes Barre, PA

#14 Jul 8, 2008
They make up their own stupid rules.
Screwy Louie

Bethlehem, PA

#15 Jul 8, 2008
The EMEFEN judge outa read up on something called "constitutional rights"....
Wowzers

Cranbury, NJ

#16 Jul 8, 2008
The Amish poop? I didn't think that was possible! I sure their's doesn't stink; it smells like freshly baked warm cinimon rolls!!

Since: Mar 07

Allentown, PA

#17 Jul 8, 2008
dutchie wrote:
lets go back to the old days when neighbors had problems they resolved them on there own without municipal involvement under the name of public safety. Let us live our without governmental interference. Give us a break, get out of our lives with your bull crap.

You want an area where you can self-govern without political interference?

There's a nice area of mountains in Northwest Pakistan that you (and the Amish) might like.

The tribal "elders" and clergy there settle all your little "spats" for you -- according to religion.

Sounds a lot like Amish country...no laws should apply!
Easy Answer

United States

#18 Jul 8, 2008
Dennis Mac wrote:
What if everyone in Allentown started dumping buckets of crap on their lawn?
They would have green, plush beautiful lawns.
Easy Answer

United States

#19 Jul 8, 2008
Dennis Mac wrote:
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You want an area where you can self-govern without political interference?
There's a nice area of mountains in Northwest Pakistan that you (and the Amish) might like.
The tribal "elders" and clergy there settle all your little "spats" for you -- according to religion.
Sounds a lot like Amish country...no laws should apply!
Comparing Amish to the Pakastani tribes is a bit of a stretch. Use your head.

When the Amish say they are a peace loving people they actually mean it, jacka#s.

Since: Mar 07

Allentown, PA

#20 Jul 8, 2008
Easy Answer wrote:
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Comparing Amish to the Pakastani tribes is a bit of a stretch. Use your head.
When the Amish say they are a peace loving people they actually mean it, jacka#s.

The Amish love everything Amish, and nothing else.
They quote our Laws only when they think they're rights are being denied, yet never fight for them.
They make money hand-over-fist, but taxes too are against their religion.

For a group that calls themselves "Christians", they do not follow the life of Christ, strive to model themselves after Him, or obey his teachings.

Christ traveled, spread His Message, admonished us to "Give unto Caesar that which his Caesar's", spoke-out against persecution, and showed us by example,... how to live.

The Amish seem to have missed many of His points.
Easy Answer

United States

#21 Jul 8, 2008
Dennis Mac wrote:
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The Amish love everything Amish, and nothing else.
They quote our Laws only when they think they're rights are being denied, yet never fight for them.
They make money hand-over-fist, but taxes too are against their religion.
For a group that calls themselves "Christians", they do not follow the life of Christ, strive to model themselves after Him, or obey his teachings.
Christ traveled, spread His Message, admonished us to "Give unto Caesar that which his Caesar's", spoke-out against persecution, and showed us by example,... how to live.
The Amish seem to have missed many of His points.
The Amish don't have to love anything other than Amish. I know this is hard for some to grasp, but to each their f'ng own. So they don't fight for our doctrine of law, so what? Neither do the tree huggers. Neither did Bill Clinton.

They don't believe in fighting. They also don't believe in X-box, cell phones, Brittney Spears and Lindsey Lohan role models for their children.

They do understand something that we don't, which is that we are destroying ourselves. We are expanding our governments authority to lead us to our own demise and we gladly pay them to do it.

Incredibly the Amish are smart enough not to. We should learn from their ways, not smite them.

I'm not going to debate the religious 'good christian/bad christian''good spy/bad spy' nonsense, any more than I am willing to debate what makes one a good Wiccian or Muslim, other than to say; Today's mainstream Christians with their "do as I say, not as I do" televangical philosophy does not rest well with me.

I can tell you the points that the Amish haven't missed. Self sufficiency that relies only on the amount of government that is forced upon them. I'm sure they would survive just fine without that much. They are a loving communal entity that takes care of their own, and do it rather well.

They don't beat, neglect, rape or murder their children. Their children grow up loved and nurtured, respectful and gratuitous for what they have. They embrace a hard days work and do it in the name of god and nature with enthusiasm.

They remain untainted by the evils of societal ills from current culture like meth/crack/heroin/pills, gangsta's, sex/porn/prostitution, murderous thugs, prison recividism....and on and on and on.

Don't be jealous, take your country back so that you have the same "quiet enjoyment of property" that they do under the constitution.

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