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Oops, city finds next year's tax estimates too low

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bpthoodnews

Edison, NJ

#1 Apr 4, 2013
BRIDGEPORT -- Three days after saying his proposed 2013-14 budget would increase the average homeowner's taxes by $215, Mayor Bill Finch's administration has redone the math and now estimates the average tax hike could be closer to $400.
If the City Council were to pass Finch's $519.9 million budget, upping the mill rate by 2.5 mills, the average homeowner paying a $6,822 tax bill could see a $391.08 increase, the mayor's office is now estimating.
The commercial property figures have also been increased. Businesses paying an average $17,112 would pay an additional $981.01 under the proposal -- not the $524 figure the administration cited Monday.
"I'd like to know what changed that contributed to those adjusted numbers?" Councilman Angel dePara, D-136, a budget committee co-chairman, said late Thursday. "That means there's an even greater importance for us on this committee to look at all those numbers and really analyze their validity and look at the assumptions they're based upon."
The initial and revised estimates were both based on the worst-case scenario of the city losing almost $11 million in state aid.
Hearst Media Group reported the $400 estimate Monday, even though the administration insisted -- without any explanation ­-- that it's $215 estimate was more reliable.
"As we said in the meeting today it is based on a snapshot in time and depending on what happens at the state level can continue to change," Finch spokeswoman Elaine Ficarra said in an email. "Not sure that you can give your readers an accurate picture of what the increase would be at this time."
On Wednesday, following his regular "brown bag lunch" with constituents at City Hall, Finch acknowledged his tax hike was likely closer to $400.
When the council's budget committee met Thursday for a budget briefing with Andrew Nunn, the city's chief administrative officer, and Thomas Sherwood, the city's director of policy and management, the difference in tax amounts was not discussed.
Later, when asked to confirm the mayor's Wednesday comments, Nunn, Sherwood and another Finch spokesman, Tim Hammill, presented the new data.
Finch has scheduled three as well: April 10, 6 p.m., at Luis Munoz Marin School; April 30, 6 p.m., at Discovery Interdistrict Magnet School, and May 7, 6 p.m., at Jettie Tisdale School.
Councilman Carlos Silva, D-136, said he suspected that the $215 tax hike was too low.
"He wasn't being generous with the real numbers," said Silva, who has been a budget committee member for eight years. "Now that people are looking at it they're seeing the numbers are closer to that $400. It puts a lot of pressure on this city council."
Residents will have plenty of opportunities to make themselves heard.
The council will hold three budget public hearings on April 8, April 22 and May 7, all at 6 p.m. at City Hall.
An increase of 2.5 mills is "incomprehensible," Silva said, and he is aiming for under one mill.
"I don't want a tax increase at all," he said. "But I have to look at this realistically. If we shoot for zero and come up short by half a mill I think the people will be able to digest that a little bit."
The Bridgeport Republican Party is planning an anti-tax protest at City Hall, 6 p.m. April 15. The mayor will also host a telephone town hall on his budget at 7:30 p.m. April 16.
"We got all the elements up to date," Nunn said, emphasizing it is really too early in the budget process to make such estimates.

Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Oops-city...

“'never'”

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#2 Apr 5, 2013
bpthoodnews wrote:
BRIDGEPORT -- Three days after saying his proposed 2013-14 budget would increase the average homeowner's taxes by $215, Mayor Bill Finch's administration has redone the math and now estimates the average tax hike could be closer to $400.
If the City Council were to pass Finch's $519.9 million budget, upping the mill rate by 2.5 mills, the average homeowner paying a $6,822 tax bill could see a $391.08 increase, the mayor's office is now estimating.
The commercial property figures have also been increased. Businesses paying an average $17,112 would pay an additional $981.01 under the proposal -- not the $524 figure the administration cited Monday.
"I'd like to know what changed that contributed to those adjusted numbers?" Councilman Angel dePara, D-136, a budget committee co-chairman, said late Thursday. "That means there's an even greater importance for us on this committee to look at all those numbers and really analyze their validity and look at the assumptions they're based upon."
The initial and revised estimates were both based on the worst-case scenario of the city losing almost $11 million in state aid.
Hearst Media Group reported the $400 estimate Monday, even though the administration insisted -- without any explanation ­-- that it's $215 estimate was more reliable.
"As we said in the meeting today it is based on a snapshot in time and depending on what happens at the state level can continue to change," Finch spokeswoman Elaine Ficarra said in an email. "Not sure that you can give your readers an accurate picture of what the increase would be at this time."
On Wednesday, following his regular "brown bag lunch" with constituents at City Hall, Finch acknowledged his tax hike was likely closer to $400.
When the council's budget committee met Thursday for a budget briefing with Andrew Nunn, the city's chief administrative officer, and Thomas Sherwood, the city's director of policy and management, the difference in tax amounts was not discussed.
Later, when asked to confirm the mayor's Wednesday comments, Nunn, Sherwood and another Finch spokesman, Tim Hammill, presented the new data.
Finch has scheduled three as well: April 10, 6 p.m., at Luis Munoz Marin School; April 30, 6 p.m., at Discovery Interdistrict Magnet School, and May 7, 6 p.m., at Jettie Tisdale School.
Councilman Carlos Silva, D-136, said he suspected that the $215 tax hike was too low.
"He wasn't being generous with the real numbers," said Silva, who has been a budget committee member for eight years. "Now that people are looking at it they're seeing the numbers are closer to that $400. It puts a lot of pressure on this city council."
Residents will have plenty of opportunities to make themselves heard.
The council will hold three budget public hearings on April 8, April 22 and May 7, all at 6 p.m. at City Hall.
An increase of 2.5 mills is "incomprehensible," Silva said, and he is aiming for under one mill.
"I don't want a tax increase at all," he said. "But I have to look at this realistically. If we shoot for zero and come up short by half a mill I think the people will be able to digest that a little bit."
The Bridgeport Republican Party is planning an anti-tax protest at City Hall, 6 p.m. April 15. The mayor will also host a telephone town hall on his budget at 7:30 p.m. April 16.
"We got all the elements up to date," Nunn said, emphasizing it is really too early in the budget process to make such estimates.
Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Oops-city...
Is it beginning to dawn on you what democrats really are?
ARBUCKLE

Trumbull, CT

#3 Apr 5, 2013
Have you EVER heard a Democrate say the taxes are too high?
BPT

Sherman, CT

#4 Apr 5, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it beginning to dawn on you what democrats really are?
did you see the latest obamcare nightmare?
goverment having to hire 140,000 new workers to "navigate" people through the application process, at the cost of BILLIONS of dollars to the american public.....21,000 alone for cailfornia. process is to complex for people to get through on-line.
the goverment did not know this when they wrote the law?!!??
obomacare is lee than five months away..........what other suprises is the american public in store for?

and these lemmings voted for this bum TWICE!

“'never'”

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#5 Apr 5, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>did you see the latest obamcare nightmare?
goverment having to hire 140,000 new workers to "navigate" people through the application process, at the cost of BILLIONS of dollars to the american public.....21,000 alone for cailfornia. process is to complex for people to get through on-line.
the goverment did not know this when they wrote the law?!!??
obomacare is lee than five months away..........what other suprises is the american public in store for?
and these lemmings voted for this bum TWICE!
That's not even the half of it. Joe Klien, time magazine liberal shill for Obama, has written a devastating article about the Obama admin not being ready with the health exchanges.
BPT

Sherman, CT

#6 Apr 5, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not even the half of it. Joe Klien, time magazine liberal shill for Obama, has written a devastating article about the Obama admin not being ready with the health exchanges.
good.
but
too little too late.

we are so screwed, as taxpayers. the burden we are going to have to bear for this mans' agenda will be paid by us forever.
BPT

Sherman, CT

#7 Apr 5, 2013
i guess the truth hurts huh, blue state......................;)

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#8 Apr 5, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>good.
but
too little too late.
we are so screwed, as taxpayers. the burden we are going to have to bear for this mans' agenda will be paid by us forever.
The battle will continue- the republicans in the senate are planning to defund much of it, so that it won't get off the ground. I don't know if that will work, but maybe.

Pray for Rubio or Jeb Bush 2016. Once we lose that election, all is lost, we then become a low-functioning socialist country.

“'never'”

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#9 Apr 5, 2013
BPT wrote:
i guess the truth hurts huh, blue state..........;)
No, it doesn't, because the typical liberal fool simply doubles down on their liberalism when faced with its failures.

Since: Aug 10

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#10 Apr 5, 2013
I am a proud Republican. God bless all of us.
BPT

Sherman, CT

#11 Apr 8, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
<quoted text>
The battle will continue- the republicans in the senate are planning to defund much of it, so that it won't get off the ground. I don't know if that will work, but maybe.
Pray for Rubio or Jeb Bush 2016. Once we lose that election, all is lost, we then become a low-functioning socialist country.
jeb bush!!!
that tired old brand.........i hope not.
if obamacare implodes, the dems are not gonna be leading anyone, when ALL will see their incompetence
annie oakley

Trumbull, CT

#12 Apr 8, 2013
all permit holders line the streets around university of hartford today for the Emperor to pass by. face away from him

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#13 Apr 8, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>jeb bush!!!
that tired old brand.........i hope not.
if obamacare implodes, the dems are not gonna be leading anyone, when ALL will see their incompetence
You are mistaken on both points. Jeb Bush was a popular bi-partisan governor of a large state.
Liberals, when faced with economic failure of their own doing, simply scream for more. Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, Chicago, Oakland, and the big 4 cities in Connecticut, are all in ruins thanks to democrats, who continue to easily win there.

The Messiah's performance was an utter disaster- yet he won, because he 'looks like' the 'new america'. Young and non-white.

Back to Jeb Bush: he was a moderate. I don't think that is debatable.

Back to the endless stupidity of liberals: when our incomes are completely taxed away, stolen from us, the sheeple will not go after the thieves, but rather they will cry for subsidies paid for by 'the rich people'.

When, 3 years from now, the economy is still in terrible shape, liberals will say it's because 'it takes this long and longer to un-do the damage Bush caused. As was stated in the WSJ a few days ago: there are now more voters then there are workers. If you have ever talked to a hard-line democrat voter, there is nothing you can say, and nothing they can witness/experience first hand, that will change their mind.

I note that people are dancing in the streets in Great Britain right now, because Margaret Thatcher died today. They go on about how she put people out of work in Britain's subsidized unprofitable industries, which took Britain to the brink of bankruptcy- but they don't care about that, because they don't care about the big picture. Same thing with the Obama voter.
CTM

United States

#14 Apr 8, 2013
The town payrolls gotta go, trim those puppies down so they work without all that fat. There are people working on their second and third retirement package. Congress gets a full retirement compensation after just one term!! Four years to retirement with all the bennies? Same stuff at the state and town levels as well as the inbred cousins jobs, disgusting. Iron Maiden put out a 4 track EP on vinyl in '80 or '81 and the cover was banned since it showed a dead Thatcher on the cover. Little working class anger there?:)

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#15 Apr 8, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>jeb bush!!!
that tired old brand.........i hope not.
if obamacare implodes, the dems are not gonna be leading anyone, when ALL will see their incompetence
Jeb Bush is very different than George Bush, and don't forget Hillary is getting ready to run in 2016.
And don't forget the Kennedys.
BPT

Sherman, CT

#16 Apr 9, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
<quoted text>
Jeb Bush is very different than George Bush, and don't forget Hillary is getting ready to run in 2016.
And don't forget the Kennedys.
you make many good points my friend.
however
the "bush" brand is done with the voters. the gop needs new blood. they need to appeal to the new demographic of voters out there.
rubio? maybe
christie? no
someone needs to rise out of the ranks, like obama did.
let's face it obama is and was slick marketing and image as we can all see he has no substance.
the kennedys? the press was a lot different in those camelot days.

Since: Nov 07

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#17 Apr 9, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>you make many good points my friend.
however
the "bush" brand is done with the voters. the gop needs new blood. they need to appeal to the new demographic of voters out there.
rubio? maybe
christie? no
someone needs to rise out of the ranks, like obama did.
let's face it obama is and was slick marketing and image as we can all see he has no substance.
the kennedys? the press was a lot different in those camelot days.
Totally agree with you there, except for one thing: Obaba had George Soros backing and promoting him. There is no one with that kind of money who is willing to fund the rise of a Republican.

Since: Nov 07

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#18 Apr 9, 2013
Well, maybe the Koch brothers. But they want an uber-conservative, and this country is a tad to liberal for that!
BPT

Sherman, CT

#19 Apr 9, 2013
LynneB wrote:
<quoted text>
Totally agree with you there, except for one thing: Obaba had George Soros backing and promoting him. There is no one with that kind of money who is willing to fund the rise of a Republican.
part of the problem is that old antiquated thinking the dems are for the people, the repubs are for big business.
anyone who thinks that way still, is clueless.
NETHIER party cares for any of us, only their own agendas and interests.
i, am not happy with either party and can find fault with BOTH over the last few decades.
it 's too bad a man or woman cannot rise and stir our passions again, as a people, to want them to be OUR leader.
only
those who have their fingers in the till or are gaming the system will have a chance, and that is NEVER a good way to start to be a leader.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#20 Apr 9, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>part of the problem is that old antiquated thinking the dems are for the people, the repubs are for big business.
anyone who thinks that way still, is clueless.
NETHIER party cares for any of us, only their own agendas and interests.
i, am not happy with either party and can find fault with BOTH over the last few decades.
it 's too bad a man or woman cannot rise and stir our passions again, as a people, to want them to be OUR leader.
only
those who have their fingers in the till or are gaming the system will have a chance, and that is NEVER a good way to start to be a leader.
Absolutely 100% with you on this!

Just like these new gun laws. Why wasn't there a public hearing before it went to a vote? Because the legislators saw a NEW revenue stream the could implement without going back on their word and imposing a new tax! Playing on peoples' emotions rather than using common sense to implement new laws is something that seems to come naturally to them, lately! Hey!! Fourteen people just got stabbed in Texas! Time to ban knives and make new knife laws!

Egads. We're doomed.

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