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Many Turned Away From Free Dental Care Clinic

There are 135 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Apr 12, 2008, titled Many Turned Away From Free Dental Care Clinic. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

The line of taillights glowing in the pre-dawn darkness snaked back nearly a mile from the old Tolland High School on Saturday.

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Money talks

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#122 Apr 15, 2008
Kate wrote:
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You should not be a parent if you cannot afford to provide your kids with the basics of life: food, shelter, education, medical and dental (and vision) care.
And there it is, in a nutshell.
Clueless

Prospect, CT

#123 Apr 15, 2008
EVERYTHING FREE wrote:
I don't know when it happened, but somewhere and sometime during my long life, Americans started to be born with BOTH HANDS OUT looking for all their needs to be met by the GOVERNMENT! The "government" is YOU and Me, the hardworking taxpayers. My parents had next to nothing and yet they took care of two of my grandparents and FOUR kids and we all went to the dentist when needed. WE PAID our own way. When we needed a doctor's advice, WE PAID. We did NOT have cable TV bills, CELL phones, MANICURES, HAIR-DOs, Cars, vacations, nor did we EVER eat in a restaurant until we were earning our own money. Why is it that today, everybody and their uncle wants to get on the American gravy train and have "the government" provide all their worldly needs? It saddens me that Americans, who used to be STRONG and have SOLID BACKBONES have become a whining cluster of cowering wimps who CANNOT TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. And the WHINING PRESS always calls them VICTIMS and UNDERPRIVILED. Well ya know what folks? WE ARE WHAT WE MAKE OURSELVES TO BE! GROW A SPINE FOR GODS SAKE! HELP YOURSELF. Don't always be expecting to be taken care of in every way with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY!
You're totally right. And, today, people like your parents and grandparents are totally expendible. They are the people who made this country great. Instead of getting the respect they have earned, they're thrown to the wolves in favor of lazy suckers and illegals. Look at Japan--they revere the elderly. Here we want to put them on an ice-floe and wave good-bye. They should have the services they need---this was one of them.
Clueless

Prospect, CT

#124 Apr 15, 2008
Money talks wrote:
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No. Because she made the choice to have 7 kids, she should have made sure she had the ability to PROPERLY CARE FOR THEM. Children need regular dental care. It's one thing for a family to fall on hard times and lose their insurance and ability to provide their kids with dental care. It's another (irresponsible) thing to give birth to 7 kids when you can't afford to give them BASIC CARE. The responsible thing to do is not to keep having kids when you can't afford their basic needs.
Aren't we paying for zillions of parent(s) who have done just that? Paying ALL the expenses, not just dental? When will that stop?
mom

Newington, CT

#125 Apr 15, 2008
Kate wrote:
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I suspect "Mom" is one of those rabid types who thinks that working mothers are neglecting their children...you know, those who put stay at home moms on some kind of pedestal. She keeps insisting that this family is "working class" and that the family is entitled to free dental care because Dad works hard and Mom is home with the kids.
Being a parent is HARD, period - it doesn't matter if a woman works or if she stays home. You should not be a parent if you cannot afford to provide your kids with the basics of life: food, shelter, education, medical and dental (and vision) care.
My mom is a nurse and for much of my childhood she worked midnights (full time) while Dad worked during the day, because we needed two incomes to get by and daycare is expensive. Many families have the parents alternating shifts for just this reason.
Additionally, this family has a house that they paid nearly $300K for - they can handle that mortgage, yet can't give their kids dental care? Daddy probably makes close to six figures at a minimum, and Mommy is sitting at home. That's a disgusting sense of entitlement.
I'd like to point out that the HUSKY plan for uninsured children includes an outstanding dental benefit. Dental exams, x-rays, fillings, sealants, etc. are all covered 100%.
Any family with uninsured kids can get HUSKY B, regardless of income. The maximum premium/copay amount is based on income, but for a family of 9 if the dad makes under around $117K/year, then the family's total contribution for all the kids would be capped at $1250 annually (copays and premiums combined). If the family makes less than about $92K/year, then they'd pay NO premiums and copays are capped at $650.
There is no excuse for any child in Connecticut to go without insurance, given that HUSKY is available.
Husky does not offer just dental. You have to be on medical in order to get dental.
another fool

Boston, MA

#126 Apr 15, 2008
Unbelieveable wrote:
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Perfect. You're on the dole and want somebody else to pay for your dental needs, but you obviously have a computer and internet access.
Your misplaced priorities are not my problem.
i suppose your for the war and voted for BUSH

Since: Feb 08

Cromwell, CT

#127 Apr 15, 2008
mom wrote:
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Have you tried to get dental insurance for your family? It is expensive. This has nothing to do with health care, this is dental care we are talking about.
Uh, well last time I checked, dental care is part of your health....and yes, I have dental insurance for my family. Its not cheap, but I forego the cigs and trips to the casino and 60' t.v. and try to make ends meet. Health (and dental) are important.
mom

Newington, CT

#128 Apr 15, 2008
messedupworld wrote:
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Uh, well last time I checked, dental care is part of your health....and yes, I have dental insurance for my family. Its not cheap, but I forego the cigs and trips to the casino and 60' t.v. and try to make ends meet. Health (and dental) are important.
You have private insurance, not through your employer? I know we have dental through our employer and it is reasonable. I have friends that they do not have dental through their employer and it is very expensive to get a private family plan.
Brad

Deep River, CT

#129 Apr 16, 2008
I was there at 9am. Mexicans and people of middle eastern descent were all over the place. Smoking cigs and drinking beer. This clinic wasn't for Americans. It was designed for illegals. Screw them.
Glasnos wrote:
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A more pertinent question is were they all legal citizens? I bet they were never asked.
Porcelain mouth

United States

#130 Apr 16, 2008
Drinking beer in a public place???

Mexicans en masse this far north?
MOM

Branford, CT

#131 Apr 17, 2008
This article fails to even mention the tremendous effort the uconn dental students put in, they were there every step of the way and the event would not have been remotely successful if it were not for them and the other student volunteers, conveniently left out of this article. THEY were the ones doing most of the extractions, which in turn, was one of the biggest need for the people seen, judging by the lines.
Another Mom

United States

#132 Apr 18, 2008
I just wanted to throw in my two cents.

I'm a mother of two, and I work full time. I pay for medical and dental out of my paycheck because it's less expensive than my husband's option. Dental care is expensive. My daughter has an auto-immune disorder that affects her health and her teeth. She has needed two oral surgeries that went well over the annual maximum on my dental plan. If given the option of free dental care, I might be tempted to take it. I say tempted because I know that there are so many out there that need it more than my family does.

Maybe the Boyce family has already met the maximum on their plan? Or Porter and Chester doesn't offer a quality dental program? Either way, I will admit that it does look very strange to see a family that could be very well off taking hand outs for free dental. The way I look at it (from reading all of these comments), you're damned if you do or you're damned if you don't. They are "scumbags" for taking services away from the poor. The poor people are "illegal immigrants and losers who all have a 50" television.", therefore not deserving of the care.

I think it's fantastic that the dentists were all willing to give their time and help out families in need. Unfortunately, when something is free there is a large percentage that it will be taken advantage of by people who don't necessarily need the care. Regardless of who actually benefited from the care, there are going to be people who donít' agree with it. I'm just glad that some people who would have been unable to obtain dental care were assisted.
Mickey

New Ipswich, NH

#133 Apr 19, 2008
The dentists, hygienists, assistants and students should be commended for their generous donation of time and expertise to the needy.

We can pick apart the program for months, but in the end, many needy patients were able to obtain dental care that probably would have otherwise caused them pain and sickness.

As for me, I'm heading down to my local free soup kitchen to have dinner with the Boyces.(That was an exceptionally nasty remark. I realize any of us could be in that situation. We all want the best for our kids, but sometimes can't afford it. This was wide open opportunity for ANYONE to get free dental care with only the conscience of the individual limiting entrance to the clinic. Perhaps next time, there will be a needs assessment for patients.)
Volunteer

Farmington, CT

#134 Apr 22, 2008
I volunteered on Saturday at the Mission of Mercy event. My job was to do exit interviews and give referrals to clinics for follow-up care. I probably interviews 200 people. Only 2 or 3 had any sort of dental insurance. Those had HUSKY and were unable to find a dentist, a problem with the HUSKY program. Everyone was extremely grateful, and that was after waiting in line, in heavy rain for hours.

While you can argue about that one family's 'worthiness', nearly everyone I saw was unemployed, disabled or working one or more low-paying jobs.

What we need is comprehensive healthcare reform, and that includes oral health care. We spend twice as much as the other industrialized countries, yet have worse health outcomes. PBS's show Frontline did a good review of the situation recently:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sicka...
waste of time

Manchester, CT

#135 Apr 23, 2008
Volunteer wrote:
...We spend twice as much as the other industrialized countries, yet have worse health outcomes.....
Becuase we have unhealthier habits than other countries. Fast food, junk food, smoking, poor dental hygene and nutrition, lack of exercise, all work against whatever aount of money or governmental healthcare system we could put in place.
We wont solve this problem until the majority of us become responsible for ourselves and our health. Waiting for others to take care of us, a dole system mentality, a "not my problem but yours" viewpoint on our own health just wont get us were we want to be.
Tom

Tolland, CT

#136 Apr 23, 2008
The title of this article is totally off base. Sure people were turned away but the focus should have been on the top notch, free dental care administered to over 1,100 patients. Reporters like you who find the worst part of a wonderful story ought to find another career.

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